Absolute hate mongering, unimaginable hatred being spewed by mainstream Indian media

[Vinod2070]

We have the equivalents of Zaid hamid in India too. What is so surprising about that?

Though I don't think they command anywhere near the same following in India.

 

[Super Falcon]

Asim, we have seen terrorism for the past 50 years. But, inspite of the all the things, today we Indians managed to get to a position that we can be a world power. We have created a precious neach for ourselves around the world. We worked very hard to make Mumbai what it is today.Mumbai, not just some western Indian city with a monument called the 'Gateway Of India'. Mumbai is the gateway to India.And the Taj is no ordinary Hotel, it is a simbol which stands testomony to India's colonial past and a success story.. It is the simbol of India.We were hit by terror many times in the past, each time we got-up, and moved on. But, this time we do-not want to get up and move on, we in general reflection of the sentiment of the people, We all are angry.Irrespective of religion and to region, we all Indians are angry. Hence you see different things written out of anger. But, in general do not mistake it as an anger against the people of Pakistan. There is nothing for us against the common man in Pakistan.
There is no anger against the present elected govt. in Pakistan. It is only aainst a certain segment who claim they are "doing everything in Pakistan's interest."
These are the people who are the real trouble makers and are enemies of both the people of India and the people of Pakistan.

how dou think that india will be a super poiwer china is a front runner for being a super power. it will never ever happen that india will be a super power

 

[Awesome]

If Pakistan does had something against HuD or Let it would have closed camps
long back, Not waited for response from Mumbai attacks.
Let was banned by Musharaf after Indian parliament attacks and Masood was sent in prison only to be let free soon. Pakistan action does not certificate from India. Why does Pakistan arrest the terrorist without outside pressure ?

We're already fighting one group of terrorists. We need to pick our battles, the ones that benefit Pakistan. IF we take a half assed step towards them they would probably end up bombing half of Pakistan. We need to do this after the WoT is over.

Take on such risk for India? While India continues to bomb us?

 

[Neo]

Pakistan detains 2nd alleged Mumbai plotter​

36 minutes ago

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan – Pakistan announced the arrest of a second reputed key player behind the terror assault on Mumbai, and officials stressed Wednesday that they are investigating an Islamic charity the U.S. and India call a front for the group blamed for the attack.

India, which has insisted on concrete evidence that Pakistan is quelling militant groups, is urging the United Nations to declare the charity, Jamaat-ud-Dawa, a terrorist organization.

A crackdown on Jamaat-ud-Dawa would underpin the promise by Pakistan's civilian government to pursue extremists blamed for last month's terrorist attack, which killed 171 people in India's commercial capital.

But Pakistani officials say India has not shared evidence from its investigation of the attack, underlining the mistrust between the nuclear-armed neighbors that is hampering U.S. efforts to avert a deeper crisis.

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said Pakistani authorities have detained Zarrar Shah, an alleged leader of Lashkar-e-Taiba, the banned Islamic militant group that India says was responsible for the Mumbai attack.

Indian news reports citing intelligence officials identified Shah as Lashkar's communications chief and said he worked out ways for the group's leaders in Pakistan to stay in touch with the 10 gunmen during the three-day siege in Mumbai.

The New York Times has reported that the attackers and their handlers used Internet phone services to make it harder for investigators to trace their calls.

Gilani also confirmed that Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, another alleged plotter identified by India, was detained during a raid Sunday in Pakistan's portion of Kashmir. That predominantly Muslim region in the Himalayas is claimed by both nations and has been the focus of two of their three wars since 1947.

The prime minister said Pakistani authorities had staged raids on militants based on information released by Indian authorities through the media.

"That is a good message to our neighbors and the rest of the world that Pakistan is a responsible nation. We want to defuse this situation," Gilani said in Multan, a central Pakistani city that India says was the hometown of two of the Mumbai attackers.

U.S. officials have told Pakistan that it must go beyond mere arrests and prevent any repeat of the Mumbai attack, whose victims included six Americans. India released information Tuesday purporting to show that all 10 gunmen in Mumbai were from Pakistan.

The chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff underlined the Bush administration's position Wednesday, praising Pakistan's steps so far but adding that it will take time to see how serious the crackdown is.

"We measure by deeds," said Adm. Mike Mullen, who visited Pakistan and India last week.

Washington wants the South Asian rivals to resume a painstaking peace process so Pakistan can focus on fighting Taliban and al-Qaida militants along the Afghan frontier.

But dismantling Lashkar will be politically dangerous for Pakistan's leaders because of the group's leading role in the dispute with India over Kashmir.

Pakistan's military and intelligence services are widely believed to have helped create Lashkar as a proxy fighting force in India's part of Kashmir, where Muslim separatists have engaged in a long insurgency.

While Pakistan's young civilian government has voiced a strong stance against Islamic extremism and reached out to India, there are doubts that the military, which has ruled for about half the country's 61-year history, will turn decisively against its unofficial allies.

The arrests of Lakhvi and Shah are "a minor first step which the government has taken as a gesture," said Ayesha Siddiqa, a Pakistani defense analyst.

After a 2001 attack on India's Parliament by alleged Pakistani militants, Pakistan banned the main groups fighting in Kashmir and arrested two of their leaders. But the leaders were freed without charge months later.

In a sign that Pakistan's current government wants to go further, Pakistan's ambassador to the United Nations told the Security Council on Tuesday that police are investigating Jamaat-ud-Dawa and other groups and might impose punitive measures, including a freeze on their finances.

"A plan is being prepared to ensure effective government supervision, as required by this body and others, of the various welfare organizations," Abdullah Hussain Haroon told the council.

An official in Pakistan's ruling party told The Associated Press on Wednesday that the government would ban the group "once we have proof" of its involvement in illegal activities.

Neither that official or a second who also confirmed the investigation would say when a decision on any sanctions might be made. Both officials insisted on anonymity because of the issue's sensitivity.

Jamaat-ud-Dawa, which appeared after Lashkar's banning and runs schools and medical clinics in Pakistan, denies any link to Lashkar. But Washington says it is a front for Lashkar and also has ties to al-Qaida. Some analysts suspect the charity may supply recruits for militant operations.

The charity's leader, Hafiz Mohammed Saeed, repeated his group's denial of links to Lashkar. "No Lashkar-e-Taiba man is in Jamaat-ud-Dawa and I have never been a chief of Lashkar-e-Taiba," he told Pakistan's Geo television Wednesday.

U.S. officials contend that Saeed, one of the suspected Lashkar leaders detained and released in 2002, is still the overall leader of the extremist group.

 

[Flintlock]

For that matter so has the US and India, been a state sponsor of terrorism that is, by virtue of supporting proxies and other groups involved in destabilization and violence in other nations.

I find it hard to believe you are actually going to try and argue that the Pakistani media has been advocating we invade India, carry out unilateral strikes in it, break it apart or whatever.

Perhaps, but Pakistan has made this the cornerstone of its foreign policy. That is why Pakistan is labeled as a "state sponsor of terror" while others are not.

You find what hard to believe? Do I really need to dig up the numerous articles and video clips from Pakistani news channels to prove my point?

 

[EagleEyes]

We have the equivalents of Zaid hamid in India too. What is so surprising about that?

Though I don't think they command anywhere near the same following in India.

While Zaid Hamid has lit fire and got attention from the few Indians. The Indian media.. not not any one person. Alot of Indian channels, we are talking about BIG channels like Zee News, Ajj Tak, Headlines Today playing with Indian minds like covering a Bollywood affair. Such difference speaks alot, and it is not even worth debating.

 

[Vinod2070]

While Zaid Hamid has lit fire and got attention from the few Indians. The Indian media.. not not any one person. Alot of Indian channels, we are talking about BIG channels like Zee News, Ajj Tak, Headlines Today playing with Indian minds like covering a Bollywood affair. Such difference speaks alot, and it is not even worth debating.

The Mumbai carnage and the preceding more than 2 decades of terror are bound to create some strong opinions among sections of the media and the people.

The perception of many in India is that even though Pakistan has burnt it's fingers playing with the fire but there are still strong interests there that are continuing to play with fire. The patience is running thin within India to take any more of this endless wave of terror.

Frankly a lot of people are not willing to wait till Pakistan can put it's house in order. Many are not sure if that is the intention in the first place.