About 1,100 Afghans given Indian citizenship in past 3 yrs:Govt

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I am afraid you needed them for your proxy war in afghanistan to save your own skin from the soviets. secondly, it was the international community which were pouring biliions of dollars in civilian and military aid to them through pakistan, pakistan didnt pay it from its own pocket. pakistan was also taking its shares especially from america.

Not at all the so-called international community after creating a fuss had left the millions of Afghan Refugees in lurch and the aid was stopped.

Pakistan had born the cost on its own after initial help international community.

Why any other country did not allow Afghans to take refuge in millions?

Why not? we can compare, except you had a higher number of them with higher advantage. and who cares about documentation as long as you get what you wanted.

Higher number doesnt help at all in case of any spying against India because those Afghans in Pakistan could not visit India freely in the 80s and still they cant.

Whereas these one thousands Afghans can visit Pakistan very easily due to our open border with Afghanistan and the biggest point they can keep both the nationalities i.e Indian and Afghan nationality.

So no one can tell if they will be visiting Pakistan with only Indian nationality

Keeping in view Indian terror camps in Afghanistan, these Afghans given Indian nationality can be very much used against Pakistan.

They can easily mingled with locals in northwest Pakistan whereas the millions or even on Afghan among Indians can be easily spotted due to their appearance.

documetn or no documetn doestn matter.

It does matter alot. With proper data of these few Afghans in India they can be monitored easily whereas millions of Afghans in Pakistan with no documentation can roam in Pakistan and can do anything without being caught.

 

[Ahmad]

Not at all the so-called international community after creating a fuss had left the millions of Afghan Refugees in lurch and the aid was stopped.

I used to live in peshawar for years and i got relatives there now. Pakistan didnt/dont pay anything to them and that is a big fat propaganda what you say. they rent the houses , so that is another boost to local landlords and helping local private housing sector, there are alot of NGOs working and having offices which are employing alot of people both inside and outside pakistan, even those who work in afghanistan send their money back to paksistana to their families. those refugees in the west is another major factor of support for the refugees.

Why any other country did not allow Afghans to take refuge in millions?

iran is sheltering them. also, iran is taking alot of responsibiity for them as well as getting some aid from the UN.

Higher number doesnt help at all in case of any spying against India because those Afghans in Pakistan could not visit India freely in the 80s and still they cant.

higher number helps because you will have more choices.

 

[pak-marine]

what is the point here ... i mean 1100 ppl given citizenship where is the news?

 

[Adios Amigo]

I am afraid you needed them for your proxy war in afghanistan to
save your own skin from the soviets.

Noope, not at all afghan refugees never helped us in any manner to save our skin from the soviets. It were rather our men along with afghan mujaheddin and others Arabs to save Afghans and kick soviets out of Afghanistan. Not to mention what soviets did to the ordinary afghans. As you are afghan you must be knowing the meaning of Gelumjums. Apart from that you were an Afghan refugee in Pakistan for along time, tell me what help did you provide us to save our skin from the soviets????

secondly, it was the international community which were pouring biliions of dollars in civilian and military aid to them through pakistan, pakistan didnt pay it from its own pocket. pakistan was also taking its shares especially from america.

The figure actually never crossed millions, any how that was in the cruch time of war in mid 80s. After the soviet withdrawal in 89, every thing stopped, not a single penny came our way, we were sanctioned for more then a decade, but we still kept you like brothers, never forced a single of you back to Afghanistan.Your citizens doesn't need any special documents to carry with them, they are widely accepted by our society, do their businesses without any restrictions, a lot more but lets not go into details. The point is, we shared our half bread with you even in the harshest times but you wont accept that, an ingratitude which is totally unjustifiable. Pakistan is not the only state responsible to bear the burden of millions of Afghan refuges, why not Iran or some buddy else?? have you ever considered that??? Brother for more then 40 years your people are living with us as refugees and do so because they are happy here, and know we wont kick them out no matter how difficult the times are.

Why not? we can compare, except you had a higher number of them with higher advantage. and who cares about documentation as long as you get what you wanted.

documetn or no documetn doestn matter.

Matters a lot, only if you don't consider some one not dear to you.







Adios

 

[pak-marine]

Unity;691898]Not at all the so-called international community after creating a fuss had left the millions of Afghan Refugees in lurch and the aid was stopped.

I used to live in peshawar for years and i got relatives there now. Pakistan didnt/dont pay anything to them and that is a big fat propaganda what you say. they rent the houses , so that is another boost to local landlords and helping local private housing sector,

they dont rent they occupy state or private land ,the houses are typically made with clay and locations are are no - go areas, their business is guns ,drugs & smugling whose economy is it boosting.
It doesnt help local economy instead it has ruined a whole generation in Pak.

there are alot of NGOs working and having offices which are employing alot of people both inside and outside pakistan, even those who work in afghanistan send their money back to paksistana to their families. those refugees in the west is another major factor of support for the refugees.

Those NGOs are more or less fundo madersas ! And for their foreign remitances is less than .01% !


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[Ahmad]

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they dont rent they occupy state or private land ,the houses are typically made with clay and locations are are no - go areas, their business is guns ,drugs & smugling whose economy is it boosting.
It doesnt help local economy instead it has ruined a whole generation in Pak.

My friend,
You know little about this issue. The clay houses you are talking about are located in camps(Jallozai, Pubi,Khorasan--->the afghans have given this name to it, Kacha Galai etc), and the population are not that high there. Majority of them live in the cities such as peshawar, islamabad and karachi. Even those camp houses are gone now for the last few years and they dont exist anymore(most of them). By putting all the problems of pakistan such as smuggling, drugs, gun etc on the afghans, is nothing but an insult. around 2milion refugees live there and there is surely bad people among them, but majority of them are good people who have fled their homes because of the war that the others imposed on them. you talk as there is no smuggler or drug dealer among you, the place i used to live all the bad people were locals , but it doesnt mean we should blame the whole community.

Those NGOs are more or less fundo madersas ! And for their foreign remitances is less than .01% !

Those NGOs are not 0.1% as you claim, they are quite alot. want me to name them? secondly the refugees have other source of income as well and that is their family members sending money to them from other countries. those young boys who live in the west will help more than a family financially.

 

[Ahmad]

Adios

Noope, not at all afghan refugees never helped us in any manner to save our skin from the soviets. It were rather our men along with afghan mujaheddin and others Arabs to save Afghans and kick soviets out of Afghanistan. Not to mention what soviets did to the ordinary afghans. As you are afghan you must be knowing the meaning of Gelumjums. Apart from that you were an Afghan refugee in Pakistan for along time, tell me what help did you provide us to save our skin from the soviets????

Dear Adeos, I got a big problem in this forum, on one hand there are guys who insult us in different ways and i have to be harsh with them and on the other hand there are friends like yourself, Pakistani Nationali, Kakgeta,Rightoues_1, Seekers etc who are great friends and my harsh words to the others will hurt them and this is such a regretalbe and sad situation for me, because you being hurt by my words will be the last thing i want.

yes, Pakistani public have helped us. we are grateful to that and do not think that we have forgotten it. as per pakistani gov, that is a different matter.

The mujahideen we are talking about are also from Afghans who lived in Pakistan. suppose the soviets had taken over Afghanistan the same way took over central asia, what do you think what would have happend? the next target was pakistan, that is why we say pakistan did everything for its own sake. instead everybody should thank us including the americans because it was our lives and land which was sacrificed.

 

[pak-marine]

My friend,
You know little about this issue.

The clay houses you are talking about are located in camps(Jallozai, Pubi,Khorasan--->the afghans have given this name to it, Kacha Galai etc), and the population are not that high there. Majority of them live in the cities such as peshawar, islamabad and karachi. Even those camp houses are gone now for the last few years and they dont exist anymore(most of them). By putting all the problems of pakistan such as smuggling, drugs, gun etc on the afghans, is nothing but an insult. around 2milion refugees live there and there is surely bad people among them, but majority of them are good people who have fled their homes because of the war that the others imposed on them. you talk as there is no smuggler or drug dealer among you, the place i used to live all the bad people were locals , but it doesnt mean we should blame the whole community.


dude u seem to know nothin at all , i havent lived in peshawar but i am very right ,sure and certain about khi and baluchistan. Starting From Chaman border what a mess we have and NO i am not blaming all afghans nor insulting them in any way i am blaming our stupid ,idiot decision makers who has shifted and implemented this mass unaccounted imigration without thinking about the consequences. if u have lived in pak or your parents ask them a question wht was it like before afghan war esp ppl in khi , queta and where afghans mostly live.

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Those NGOs are not 0.1% as you claim, they are quite alot. want me to name them? secondly the refugees have other source of income as well and that is their family members sending money to them from other countries. those young boys who live in the west will help more than a family financially.

go on enlighten me name some organisations ?

 

[hembo]

NO we dont move on.


The question is India is not accepting its own citizens in Assam as Indians how come they have given citizenship to 1,000 Afghans?

May be they are their operatives working for RAW in Afghanistan

Could our good madam here would care to give some credible link to the bold part, lest we consider it as an OFF-TOPIC RANT and HUMONGOUS LIE!!!!

Yours truly is from Assam and know of nothing what the above LIE claims....

 

[Ahmad]

go on enlighten me name some organisations ?

DACCAR, Care International, ACCBAR, UNHCR, UNAMA, Afghanaid, IRC, Belgian committe, UNDP, Red Cross, Swedish Committe, Norwagen Committe, Germans committe(dont know the exact name), Several demining committes, french hospital, there are a few rich and good heart Arabs who have made some hospitals, there are other many many small and big NGOs that i cant remember all of them. these NGOs are hiring pakistanis as well.

 

[manojb]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm any more information from which areas, clan, faith these Afghans are ?

'raw-mossad-zionist' clan! 'kick-taliban-out' ethnicity.. BTW this is ToI 'hindu-blah-blah' media. Neutral source please !!

 

[Pinditube]

koi baat nahi yea pathan aut afghani dunya ki har jaga paye jatey hain

 

[FireFighter]

Just a quick question: Out of the 1000 odd Afghans given Indian citizenship, How many of these immigrants are members of the current current stooge Afghan govn't?

We all know most of these stooges have no future in Afghanistan, once the Americans leave Afganistan, these stooges/rats will run away to either India or America where they belong. Or fear being run over either Talibs or revolutionary Afghans