AAD/PAD VS S300

[he-man]

Do you have a serious comprehension Problem? Have I mentioned Akash anywhere? AAD which has a 150 KM range will be converted into a 250 KM range derivative of anti aircraft role.

Do u have problem??
I accidently confused aad with akash.

Still AAD is for anti ballistic role not for aircrafts and cruise missiles.
Is it so hard for u to get??

For that we have akash and will have barak-2/8.
And i am comparing s-400 with a comparable system

 

[HariPrasad]

Still AAD is for anti ballistic role not for aircrafts and cruise missiles.
Is it so hard for u to get??

It is comparatively easy to derive a derivative of Anti aircraft version from anti missile version. That is what DRDO is doing. They are enhancing the range and makes the missile suitable for anti aircraft role.

 

[he-man]

It is comparatively easy to derive a derivative of Anti aircraft version from anti missile version. That is what DRDO is doing. They are enhancing the range and makes the missile suitable for anti aircraft role.

Another laughable reply from u.
The fact is if it was so easy we would have developed it by now instead of investing the money in barak-8.

Even if drdo starts today it will take years for production to start

 

[HariPrasad]

Another laughable reply from u.
The fact is if it was so easy we would have developed it by now instead of investing the money in barak-8.

Even if drdo starts today it will take years for production to start

You are confused as ever. Barak8 id a 70 KM range missile. while indian long range missile is of 250 KM range. Like Bark 8 (LRSAM) took 5 to 6 years to develop from Barak 8, Significantly different 250 kM range SAM may take at least same time.

 

[he-man]

You are confused as ever. Barak8 id a 70 KM range missile. while indian long range missile is of 250 KM range. Like Bark 8 (LRSAM) took 5 to 6 years to develop from Barak 8, Significantly different 250 kM range SAM may take at least same time.

That is in design phase..............please boast when atleast the development starts is my point.As usual u are too optimistic,i am not

 

[HariPrasad]

That is in design phase..............please boast when atleast the development starts is my point.As usual u are too optimistic,i am not

If DRDO can build AAD intereceptor, why can't they build anti aircraft version. You are as pessimistic as ever.

 

[anant_s]

Lol..............its not that easy man.
Increasing range from 35 to 250 is no child's play and drdo will take its time.

Thats correct, the basic research itself will take some time and resources and hence any completely Indian product will not be available soon.

Till then russians will have s-500.

But Praaji, will Russia be willing to sell such a technology to India when available?

 

[he-man]

Thats correct, the basic research itself will take some time and resources and hence any completely Indian product will not be available soon.



But Praaji, will Russia be willing to sell such a technology to India when available?

Russians are willing to sell even s-400...............we only are too stubborn to refuse.
And i am serious when i say this,,,we should have had a partnership with russians for the naval sam.

Barak-8 is simply inadequate at just 70 km whatever anyone says here and we won't be having a replacement for 2 decades at least i think.

Russians are capable to build the sams especially the ones with monstrous ranges like 400 km for s-400

 

[RISING SUN]

Please discuss.

S300 varients are matured strike missiles with primary role as anti air with very limited anti balistic role. In anti air role their capability increases exponentially. Their engagement range is pretty solid one for anti air role. High manuverability is also good point in favor of them. On the other hand our very extended range SAM will have bit short engagement range compared to S300 but it will have some good features under its belly like extended terminal searching capability, solid motor and sufficient manuevrability in terminal phase to out maneuver its likely opponents. Its own seeker will be more powerful and integrated with jamming proof techs.

Do u have problem??
I accidently confused aad with akash.

Still AAD is for anti ballistic role not for aircrafts and cruise missiles.
Is it so hard for u to get??

For that we have akash and will have barak-2/8.
And i am comparing s-400 with a comparable system

New missile is not based on AAD at all. Rather it uses ER SAM aka BARAK 8 platform and enlarges it to incorporate the basic anti balistic tech with BARAK technology.

 

[HariPrasad]

S300 varients are matured strike missiles with primary role as anti air with very limited anti balistic role. In anti air role their capability increases exponentially. Their engagement range is pretty solid one for anti air role. High manuverability is also good point in favor of them. On the other hand our very extended range SAM will have bit short engagement range compared to S300 but it will have some good features under its belly like extended terminal searching capability, solid motor and sufficient manuevrability in terminal phase to out maneuver its likely opponents. Its own seeker will be more powerful and integrated with jamming proof techs.

Excellent!!!!!

I look forward to some LRSAM technology going in EX SAM. I believe that Radar of EX SAM will also be better with compact size and AESA.

 

[RISING SUN]

It is comparatively easy to derive a derivative of Anti aircraft version from anti missile version. That is what DRDO is doing. They are enhancing the range and makes the missile suitable for anti aircraft role.

Sorry but you are wrong here mate. Neither its a spin off of AAD nor its a new missile design. Its basically a longer range BARAK missile. As we know, BARAK has multiple version like barak 1 & barak 2 of 70 km, 120 km range. Now we are just developing two more on the same design for 150 to 180 km range and around 225 km range. These will be heavier than the current one. Hope it clears. Thanks.

Excellent!!!!!

I look forward to some LRSAM technology going in EX SAM. I believe that Radar of EX SAM will also be better with compact size and AESA.

Yes the techs we learnt in initial batch is going to be used in next upgrade. I would like to tell you also that we have started installing long range barak on our first ship. Can't tell which one though. Hope you understand.

 

[HariPrasad]

Thanks!

If it is a derivative of BARK than i am sure that they will be very advance and outclass S300 in almost all sphere.

Yes the techs we learnt in initial batch is going to be used in next upgrade. I would like to tell you also that we have started installing long range barak on our first ship. Can't tell which one though. Hope you understand.

This is excellent news. I think it should be VIKKY.

LRSAM test was to be carried out in September i.e this month. Are we installing Israeli Bark 8 without waiting for LRSAM to be operational.

Sorry but you are wrong here mate. Neither its a spin off of AAD nor its a new missile design.

Aviash Chander said that we are making effort to extend the SAM's range from 150 KM to 250 km. I concluded that it should be AAD only because I do not know about any other missile in Indian inventory of such range.

 

[halupridol]

If DRDO can build AAD intereceptor, why can't they build anti aircraft version. You are as pessimistic as ever.

offcourse DRDO can build anything n everythng, only problem is 'time'.

 

[HariPrasad]

offcourse DRDO can build anything n everythng, only problem is 'time'.

So far missile development is concern in recent past, they have stuck to the time frame. e.g Agni IV and Agni V. They had some problem in tactical systems in past but i believe that they have overcome that also. I am awaiting for LRCM test.

 

[halupridol]

So far missile development is concern in recent past, they have stuck to the time frame. e.g Agni IV and Agni V. They had some problem in tactical systems in past but i believe that they have overcome that also. I am awaiting for LRCM test.

I know u have a lot of faith in DRDO,which I dont share.
just saying,,,dont count ur chickens bfore thy hatch