AAD/PAD VS S300

[HariPrasad]

Hi friends,

Recently russians said that in a joint excercise of India and Russia, Indians were impressed with S400.

So let us discuss the capabilities of S300 VS Indian BMD- AAD/ PAD/ PDV.

No trolling please.

 

[Bhasad Singh Mundi]

Hi friends,

Recently russians said that in a joint excercise of India and Russia, Indians were impressed with S400.

So let us discuss the capabilities of S300 VS Indian BMD- AAD/ PAD/ PDV.

No trolling please.

Don't believe everything that russians say.

 

[HariPrasad]

Don't believe everything that russians say.

OK let us discuss technology and specification.

 

[RISING SUN]

OK let us discuss technology and specification.

S300 is primarily anti air defence missile with BMD capabilities in secondary role. While Indian BMD is pure BMD based defence missile. Hope that clears the major flaw in comparison. We can discuss abt it but it will be of limited significance due to the very nature of S300. If you are interested in same, we can discuss abt S300 varients and very extended range SAM varients ranging from under 200 km and above 200 km range.

 

[anant_s]

S 300 details

Russian surface-to-air missile. Third generation family of surface-to-air missiles developed in the 1970's based on new principles. The same launch system could use either 5V55 or 48N6 series missiles, of both mid- and long-range types.
Development began in 1969 of a common surface-to-air missile with 75 km range for the PVO (designated S-300P) and the VMF (Rif). B V Bunkin at NPO Almaz was responsible for development of the system for the PVO and land forces, and V A Bukatov at NPO Altair was responsible for development of the system for the Navy. Development of the common missile for the two systems was undertaken by MKB Fakel (formerly OKB-2 of Grushin). These new generation of surface-to-air missiles would include the 5V55 missile for the S-300P system and the 9M330 for the Tor system. A fundamental re-examination of surface-to-air missile design was undertaken in light of the latest innovations in rocket technology. The goal was to achieve the highest possible velocity while at the same time achieving a new level of reliability. The missile had to have minimal reaction time, improved military utility, minimum time to target, ease of manufacture, and operate under a wider range of climatic conditions. The production missile had to be a 'certified round' - have a guaranteed reliability throughout its lifetime. The result was the TPK combined launch and transport container. This container was never opened between the time it left the factory and the launch of the missile inside. The vertical launch technique adopted used a catapult accelerator within the container to pop the missile to an altitude 20 m above the launcher, where the main motor ignited. The 4M330 featured the world's first gas-dynamic steering system, allowing quick manoeuvrability when homing in on the target.
S-300

 

[Kinetic]

PAD can go upto 85 KM above earth and PDV upto 150 KM to destroy an incoming missile. How much S-300 and S-400 can go??

 

[ni8mare]

PAD can go upto 85 KM above earth and PDV upto 150 KM to destroy an incoming missile. How much S-300 and S-400 can go??

S300 is an anti air defence missile with BMD capabilities where PDV/ADD are pure BMD

S300/S400 equivalent will be a "new Long ranged SAM with a range of 200-250 km is on the drawing board, which is likely be a spin off our ABM technology"

Source: Dr Avinash Chander Talks about NEW Missiles

 

[HariPrasad]

S300 is primarily anti air defence missile with BMD capabilities in secondary role. While Indian BMD is pure BMD based defence missile. Hope that clears the major flaw in comparison. We can discuss abt it but it will be of limited significance due to the very nature of S300. If you are interested in same, we can discuss abt S300 varients and very extended range SAM varients ranging from under 200 km and above 200 km range.

Meanwhile I read A very interesting article on PDV. PDV is a very ambitious project with lots of path breaking technologies and Home made seeker. Future test will be carried out with Kill vehicle.

Some notes on DRDO’s PDV ballistic missile defence interceptor | idrw.org

PAD can go upto 85 KM above earth and PDV upto 150 KM to destroy an incoming missile. How much S-300 and S-400 can go??

S 300 can target incoming Plane at 300 KM and S 400 upto 400 KM at mach 6 speed. I do not know about ceiling.

 

[HariPrasad]

If you are interested in same, we can discuss abt S300 varients and very extended range SAM varients ranging from under 200 km and above 200 km range

Please discuss.

 

[he-man]

diff things.

pad/aad is anti ballistic shield with interception at 50 to 150 km.

Its almost useless against cruise missiles and aircrafts thats why we have akash and will get barak-2/8 soon enough.

s-300 /400 is mainly for aircrafts,uav's and cruise missiles with ceiling of 30 km.
Theoretically it can intercept a ballistic missile too but chances are almost nil with 30 km ceiling.
Both s-300/400 still use pesa radars while akash and barak use aesas.


s-500 which is gonna be unveiled in 2016 will have anti ballistic role too

 

[HariPrasad]

pad/aad is anti ballistic shield with interception at 50 to 150 km.

AAD upto 17 to 20 KM Ceiling.

PAD upto 80 KM.

PDV upto 150 KM.

 

[he-man]

AAD upto 17 to 20 KM Ceiling.

PAD upto 80 KM.

PDV upto 150 KM.

Still its not good enough as akash missile has a range of just 35 km max.
Its nothing compared to s-400 which has a missile in 400 km range plus.

We lag behind russians and it will remain so for a decade at least.

Russians can make a ballistic missile shield if they want,,,,faster than us but they have other priorities and s-500 with 200 km ceiling will be unveiled in 2016 and that too a production model

 

[HariPrasad]

Still its not good enough as akash missile has a range of just 35 km max.

AAD derivative with 250 KM Range with anti aircraft role is under development. it will be equivalent to S 400.

 

[he-man]

AAD derivative with 250 KM Range with anti aircraft role is under development. it will be equivalent to S 400.

Lol..............its not that easy man.
Increasing range from 35 to 250 is no child's play and drdo will take its time.

Till then russians will have s-500.

And stop comparing the future speculative improved akash with s-400 which has been in production since 2010 and s-300 which has been in production for 3 decades till we have a comparable product which at this point we don't.
I mean we are not even close

 

[HariPrasad]

Increasing range from 35 to 250 is no child's play and drdo will take its time.

Do you have a serious comprehension Problem? Have I mentioned Akash anywhere? AAD which has a 150 KM range will be converted into a 250 KM range derivative of anti aircraft role.