A U.S.-Pakistan Reset Just Got a Lot Harder

[hussain0216]

American Blackwater pardoned
Nato Soldiers who committed war crimes pardoned

Pakistan releases a terrorist who served his sentence... *American is enraged*

Whenever a American bought up pearl on social media

I slapped them with the release based upon a court judgment and evidence issue

I then just posted a article about U.S pardoning their own soldiers and blackwater with blood still.on their hands


They shut up after that

 

[ziaulislam]

By the end of Biden's term Pakistani's will be crying for Trump. With Democrats expect more wars, more soldiers, more accusations, "do more", "do more" all the while entirely ignoring Indian atrocities in Kashmir. And expect Biden to declare a jihad against China which will place Pakistan in even more difficult position.

And Biden warmongers will hang on in Afghanistan bringing back the Abdullah Abdulahs with their hatred of Pakistan. As I said Trump was the thing for Pakistan.

War with what
Afghanistan sentiment is more like vietnam sentiment..yeah biden may delay things but certainly he cant escalate

Whenever a American bought up pearl on social media

I slapped them with the release based upon a court judgment and evidence issue

I then just posted a article about U.S pardoning their own soldiers and blackwater with blood still.on their hands


They shut up after that

He already completed his time for kidnapping
Better would have been if his death sentence was commuted to life and he been released after 20 yrs(he spent 19yrs in jail)

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

The only thing I see is that Trump eroded points of leverage over Pakistan. He stopped the flow of weapons, reimbursement of funds and training of soldiers among other things...
While his approach was, that a tougher approach will make Pakistan be more submissive and eager for reconciliation, didn't happen. In comes Biden and he finds all those levers exhausted and nothing tangible available as a policy tool.
Which means either of two things, appeasement or alienation. As it stands U.S. has a bigger role for India in the region tackling China and only smaller one in Afghanistan pricking Pakistan, a policy instrument itself to contain or subvert its unfavorable or hostile moves towards India.

 

[CriticalThinker02]

They can create problems in FATF, prop up india and afghanistan.
Furthermore, they can fund so called liberal parties or even religious parties like Jui.

Problems for Pakistan could increase.

Pakistan must solve its internal problems quickly.

They were already doing that for the last 20 years, what makes you think they will start from today?

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Whenever a American bought up pearl on social media

I slapped them with the release based upon a court judgment and evidence issue

I then just posted a article about U.S pardoning their own soldiers and blackwater with blood still.on their hands


They shut up after that

I know that Raymond Davis has been brought up many times and his murder of several civilians in Pakistan without anywhere near the time served in this case by a Pakistani.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

The only thing I see is that Trump eroded a points of leverage over Pakistan. He stopped the flow of weapons, reimbursement of funds and training of soldiers among other things...
While his approach was, that a tougher approach will make Pakistan be more submissive and eager for reconciliation, didn't happen. In comes Biden and he finds all those levers exhausted and nothing tangible available as a policy tool.
Which means either of two things, appeasement or alienation. As it stands U.S. has a bigger role for India in the region tackling China and only smaller one in Afghanistan pricking Pakistan, a policy instrument itself to contain or subvert its unfavorable or hostile moves towards India.

Trust me, we are better off being alienated from the americans. There is NOTHING useful they have done for or given us in over 35 years. F**K them. We will gladly give the americans over to the indians.

 

[mingle]

According to Book of Asra Nomani she was with him at karachi Daniel killed by Khalid sheikh Mohammad she believes on that not by Omar sheikh he has role in kidnapping but not murder which he served 18yrs already according to court

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Which means either of two things, appeasement or alienation. As it stands U.S. has a bigger role for India

Given what you say I think Biden will go for alienation. Policy toward Pakistan will be governed by the role US has given to India to contain China. This means bad news for Pakistan. Expect US media to begin deluge of dodgy reports on Pakistan and White House making statements negative statements about Pakistam. Essentially Pakistan will be taken back to Obama days and get shafted or flogged daily to please India.

One of things I really respect Trump for [don'[t give flying frigg for his so called anti Muslim stance] was that he went real soft if not almost apologetic about Pakistan even when the media would try to goad him into making statements in favour of New Delhi. He would reply "PM Modi is friend but PM Imran Khan is great buddy and there is so much that could be done - I would love to help both etc etc].

We saw that with Kashmir when he suggesed he would like to mediate a solution which got the Indian's in a right twist. Now I expect Biden [the Muslim friendly guy] to entirely ignore Kashmir and tickle Modi's testicles just to draw some anti-China animus out India.

As a side note India will never be able to do what US expects it to be able to do - contain China. The American's see the consolidated cream of 1.4 billion people in Indian-Americans and draw them as guide to India. That ignores the reality of India. It's a huge dirt poor Sub Saharan Africa type country.

 

[Silverblaze]

Given what you say I think Biden will go for alienation. Policy toward Pakistan will be governed by the role US has given to India to contain China. This means bad news for Pakistan. Expect US media to begin deluge of dodgy reports on Pakistan and White House making statements negative statements about Pakistam. Essentially Pakistan will be taken back to Obama days and get shafted or flogged daily to please India.

One of things I really respect Trump for [don'[t give flying frigg for his so called anti Muslim stance] was that he went real soft if not almost apologetic about Pakistan even when the media would try to goad him into making statements in favour of New Delhi. He would reply "PM Modi is friend but PM Imran Khan is great buddy and there is so much that could be done - I would love to help both etc etc].

We saw that with Kashmir when he suggesed he would like to mediate a solution which got the Indian's in a right twist. Now I expect Biden [the Muslim friendly guy] to entirely ignore Kashmir and tickle Modi's testicles just to draw some anti-China animus out India.

As a side note India will never be able to do what US expects it to be able to do - contain China. The American's see the consolidated cream of 1.4 billion people in Indian-Americans and draw them as guide to India. That ignores the reality of India. It's a huge dirt poor Sub Saharan Africa type country.

Democrats actually de-hyphenated Pakistan from India at the request of indians in 90s. Biden will likely continue this.
Your assessment is correct.

However, a new variable has come in which is USA's own internal stability which might limit its leverage against Pakistan.

In the end the most imp factor is Pakistans own stability. If the establishment here continues to run a political circus, we will have to go to IMF for the 23rd time with even more hard terms and giving US more leverage then they might have.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I would go as far as to say Trump losing is a disaster for Pakistan.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

However, a new variable has come in which is USA's own internal stability which might limit its leverage against Pakistan.

In my opinion this is even more reason to dump on Pakistan. Biden will try to focus on China as a threat in order to deflect and unite the internal instability we saw play out in USA. I already see indications of this with Biden trying to fix a 'coalition of demoracies' against China in which India will be included. In this game Pakistan will be dumped on to please India and Islamabad's relations with Beijing will get extra attention with Sino-Pak being contrasted as the evil axis to India's great demoracy bullshat.

Of course Kashmir will be glossed over after few limp comments are given to satisfy the claim of being liberal and defender of human rights.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I would go as far as to say Trump losing is a disaster for Pakistan.

Trump may have not liked Muslims as a whole, but was generally cool with and somewhat indifferent with regards to Pakistan. Generally, he was not concerned with non-Whites. He just wanted to restore american invincibility. Nothing more. At most he probably held a grudge against Blacks and Latinos though.

PS Even an average Somalian has a better life than an average indian.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Life sentence is for 20-25 years seems like 20 years have passed
Don't understand the problem

In theory , Life sentence can be adjusted for Good behavior in court of law

Pardon / Forgiveness is part of any nation's local court system

 

[Silverblaze]

In my opinion this is even more reason to dump on Pakistan. Biden will try to focus on China as a threat in order to deflect and unite the internal instability we saw play out in USA. I already see indications of this with Biden trying to fix a 'coalition of demoracies' against China in which India will be included. In this game Pakistan will be dumped on to please India and Islamabad's relations with Beijing will get extra attention with Sino-Pak being contrasted as the evil axis to India's great demoracy bullshat.

Of course Kashmir will be glossed over after few limp comments are given to satisfy the claim of being liberal and defender of human rights.

True. Kashmir has already been kicked away after they called it "india's J & K" in a tweet from State department.

Problem is Pakistan establishment for the love of God should break this cycle of putting itself for adoption by global powers.

Nobody respects a state that goes for bailouts every five years. Strategic value alone cannot guarantee a respectable place. If people get offended by these facts, they are on the wrong side of history.