A two-front threat emerging for Pakistan

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Bad news indian frnds taliban are comin (AFGHANISTAN)

 

[Kasrkin]

There are a lot of presumptions in this article that I frankly can't embrace. She implies that an aggressive military stance from Indian on the east is a direct result of American approval. But why on Earth would the Americans want that when they very well know that all we'll need is the slightest sign of a threat from India to redeploy our forces from the West, leaving their own precious service-men in Afghanistan under increased pressure from the militants?

The two allies are all set to spring this nasty decision onto Pakistan at the international conference on Afghanistan in London at the end of this month when it will be proposed that India train the Afghan National Army.

If there is some truth to this, and I won't be surprised if there is, then it is certainly an alarming development. Pakistan will be taking counter-measures at some levels, which is something our Western allies know. If Pakistan makes the extent of its disapproval crystal clear then it will be very hard for them to go ahead with this plan. The Indians trained the Iraqi Army too, we know how well that ended up. There are alternatives to the Indian Army training the fledging Afghan forces, not least of which is Pakistani advisors themselves. The fact that the Indian Army is training this Afghan 'National Army' is not worrying in itself as far as the Afghan warlords absorbing any useful military skills that can be used against Pakistan, but that it is a pretext for the Indians to exercise immense influence on the (no doubt mediocre) military forces of Afghanistan.

First and most immediate, Pakistan needs to move its troops back to its Eastern front and cease operations in FATA.

Unbelievable. The naivety some of our 'experts' hold. Before the Indians even start the training of the Afghan forces we should redeploy our forces just because they announced a plan and leave our western flank naked. Militarily nonsense way to make a political point, which itself will be ineffective as the Indians will be gleeful to hear our western flank is under-manned now that they're moving there in force. This from the same person who is insisting, and quite correctly, that we have multiple imminent threats from the west.

I love the increased nationalism these days, its only natural that people are coming together under the green flag in times of great trial. BUT this low quality journalism is disillusioning, its unfocused, impulsive, un-pragmatic and unimpressive in almost every other way. I don't want to see our media and press end up like their Indian counterparts, but thats exactly what is happening.

 

[asq]

Lets not stereotype.. You may accuse me of denials, but generalizing the whole country?? Wouldn't be good if I say..
Typical Pakistani reponse.. Reject anything that doesn't fit their preconcieved notions??

It is not the question of fitting Pakistani notions, it is about truth, facts and human rights.

I am not genralising the whole country, this is a strange deduction on your part, I am answering your quiries and puting the true prospact from the point of fairness and human rights.

In the case of kashmir, if u look at it from human rights view and from democratic, it is only right to allow people anywhere in this world to use the right to choose their destitnies.

India jumps at every moment when it comes to harming Pakistan, on the oter hand Pakistan has nor done so, sure there are some kashmiris who are fed up with Indian oppressions so they go and do drastic tgings as they have been killed for 60 years and they have the right to defend thenselves.

But it s the duty of those who claim themselves the biggest Democarcy of the World to do the rifght thing and or stop cliaming to be the biggest domocracy of the world.

And this has nothing to do with Pakistani notions,it is about democracy and human rights.

 

[karan.1970]

It is not the question of fitting Pakistani notions, it is about truth, facts and human rights.

I am not genralising the whole country, this is a strange deduction on your part, I am answering your quiries and puting the true prospact from the point of fairness and human rights.
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I think you did. You wrote...

Typical Indian response. Denails, denails and more denails

While we may chose to disagree on Kashmir, Balochistan, Taliban, terrorism etc, my comment was arounding lumping all Indians in a single category to say thay my response in typical indian response. and my question to you sir, is that how many indians do you know out of a population of 1+ billion to make this generalization.

On Kashmir, you and I can talk till the cows come home without coming to an agreement. If it was so simple, our govts would have done it by now and we wouldnt be having this discussion..You have your notiions of opression and freedom fighters and I have mine of Cross Border Terror, stater policy of terrorism.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Karan whats ur relation with balochistan>?except funding terrorism?Its Pakistans issue dont poke ur nose in our affairs same goes for taliban KASHMIR IS A DISPUTED TERRITORY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO JOIN PAKISTAN ACCEPT THE GOD DAMN REALITY.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Simple Solution

10 Nuclear war heads targetted towards India

1 Nuclear weapon targetted on Afghanistan


Send 800 Fighters to Aircraft carrier knock out mission

Problem solved -

 

[third eye]

Simple Solution

10 Nuclear war heads targetted towards India

1 Nuclear weapon targetted on Afghanistan


Send 800 Fighters to Aircraft carrier knock out mission

Problem solved -

AP,

Problem solved or problem starts ?

On the lighter side, since you already are in " Patli Gali' you may not have a prob in getting away, but what about the rest ?

 

[karan.1970]

Karan whats ur relation with balochistan>?except funding terrorism?Its Pakistans issue dont poke ur nose in our affairs same goes for taliban KASHMIR IS A DISPUTED TERRITORY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO JOIN PAKISTAN ACCEPT THE GOD DAMN REALITY.

temper .. temper my dear friend.. My relationship with Balochistan is exactly what yours is with Kashmir..

 

[asq]

temper .. temper my dear friend.. My relationship with Balochistan is exactly what yours is with Kashmir..

You have no right to talk about Baluchistan as it is an integral part of Pakistan and on the other hand Kashmis is a disputed trritory and was accepted by U.N. as such, this the reason we the Pakistanis genarlise Indians because they talk about pakistani provinces with no regard for international laws, soverienity of pakistan and consider apples and oranges as the same fruit.

We the Pakiarani hope that Indians would at least be honest and be truthfull and know the legal aspects of sourvinity and the integrity of countries.

It is very shamefull that Indians talk so carelessly about Baluchistan, it tells me that Indians do not give a hoot about integrity of a country and they do not want to talk about problems based on international laws and on ground realities. it also tells me that this is how wars are started by those who do not care for facts, for international laws and respect the integrity of a country.

So there goes the neighbourhood and the onle solution is according to Indians is war, What an attitude it is that of war mongering and of not giving a hoot about peace arrived at by honest and respectable discussion.

 

[karan.1970]

You have no right to talk about Baluchistan as it is an integral part of Pakistan and on the other hand Kashmis is a disputed trritory and was accepted by U.N. as such, this the reason we the Pakistanis genarlise Indians because they talk about pakistani provinces with no regard for international laws, soverienity of pakistan and consider apples and oranges as the same fruit.

We the Pakiarani hope that Indians would at least be honest and be truthfull and know the legal aspects of sourvinity and the integrity of countries.

It is very shamefull that Indians talk so carelessly about Baluchistan, it tells me that Indians do not give a hoot about integrity of a country and they do not want to talk about problems based on international laws and on ground realities. it also tells me that this is how wars are started by those who do not care for facts, for international laws and respect the integrity of a country.

So there goes the neighbourhood and the onle solution is according to Indians is war, What an attitude it is that of war mongering and of not giving a hoot about peace arrived at by honest and respectable discussion.

You have your opinions and i have mine.. You keep harping about a UN resolution that even the UN now says is not enforcable. Look up Kofi Annan's view on this.. Also USA has formally backed the stance of India on this.

So as far as any Indian is concerned Kasmir is as much a part of India as Balochistan or for that matter, Islamabad or Lahore are of Pakistan. In that manner my relationship with Balochistan is exactly what yours is with Kashmir i.e. NO RELATION. Period....

And in that sense I have full respect for Pakistan's integrity as long as Pakistanis have the same for India's including Kashmir. And if they dont, then yes, I dont give 2 hoots for what that pakistani thinks or feels and then shame on them...

Show me one post of mine where I have recommended war as a solution...That is yet another generalization you are a victim of. As a matter of fact if you look at all the posts in this forum(not thread) you will find more Pakistanis whipping up war hysteria than Indians (please spare me the Gen Kapoor comments)...

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

temper .. temper my dear friend.. My relationship with Balochistan is exactly what yours is with Kashmir..

What a f..ng retarded comment.
Our relationship with Kashmir is that it was destined to be a part of Pakistan.UN gives it a right world accepts the right.Kashmiris have cultural and religious and ethnic ties with us.And majority wants to merge with PAKISTAN.
Im baloch tell me whats your relationship with me or my hometown balouchistan?Except funding some outlaws and criminals or guns for hire to destabalize it?By arming training and funding them?
Do you know all balochi elders joined Pakistan on free will paid sacrifices>?Even Akbar bugti never demended seperation so what the f,,k are you talking about?Balach marri and othwer thugs are called TERRORISTS by UN and all world even your govt. While your fatherless govt. cries having no links with them your trying to br chummy with us?If you cant say the truth i suggest you shut the damn hell up.Bloody liar.

 

[vsdoc]

Our relationship with Kashmir is that it was destined to be a part of Pakistan.UN gives it a right world accepts the right.Kashmiris have cultural and religious and ethnic ties with us.And majority wants to submerge with PAKISTAN.

What an apt choice of verbiage.

Cheers, Doc

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

What an apt choice of verbiage.

Cheers, Doc

YouTube - Kashmir day - Kashmiris burning Indian flag and effigy of Indian PM

Cheers doc.

 

[vsdoc]

Let me know when you come up for a breath man ..... must be tough being submerged for 62 years without the benefit of gills!

Pakistani to Kashmiri : Hum to doob rahe hain, tumhe bhi le doobenge sanam!

Cheers, Doc

 

[asq]

When Indians see the truth, they talk in riddles, what a cop out.