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this was a useless thread.
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seeing your comments i feel most of you guys don't have the serious thinking capabilities or the will power to ponder over the core issues regarding national development or foreign policies........since this is a defence forum you feel that we should only discuss things like which country can build or buy more shitty fighters to destroy other noodles fighter...who has AESA or AWACS or BVR or some crap radar system to detect other pieces of shitty war machines made of metals and other stuffs which could have been used to build houses and school buildings....and who nukes whom and finally everyone nukes everyone and we all end up in some tropical african jungle fighting with a chimp over a banana ........As far as the 2015 onwards part of my post i also feel it is some B.S and unlikely to happen anytime in future but who knows today's imagination may be tomorrows reality..........I also have a request to all those terminator minded guys that please think with your brains not your balls
we all need to get rid of all this B.S future predictions. every now & then a new prediction come. in this year this will happen, in that year that will happen & blah blah blah. everyone very well know that future is always unknown & unpredictable, yet there is no reduction in those ppl who make predictions & it's takers.
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keep on dreaming dude.."Pakistan is a great nation with great people,great culture and has a huge potential to grow".....this thought was expressed by US as well as India and I too agree on this. But seeing the current situation of this nation I feel it is getting divided due to various reasons and getting closer and closer to complete chaos and turmoil. According to me i can sum up a few reasons for this:
- Internal instability due to religious reasons.....I find that in pakistan there is a great gap between modern muslims and hardliners.the modern guys even though greatly successful are limited in numbers and are unable to get the confidence of the hardliners. they are based in cities, living in posh colonies, owning a car or two, going for foreign vacations, politician. bureaucrat, businessman, engineer, doc etc etc........on the other hand u have the sizeable population everyday being brainwashed by the hardliners and fanatics and bringing religion in everything........i wan't to ask these guys a question that after 15 years or so when the oil prices go so high that even the upper class cannot afford it then will religion give you oil??? will it drop from sky?? how will people live huh??
its very easy to preach religion sitting in your comfort zone but only the poor will suffer. always making a decent living first then comes religion ;- Hate India Attitude......I think pakistan is letting go a big opportunity by not trading significantly and engaging in business with india. So many countries have gained so much by engaging in business with india across various spectrum - Europe, America, Gulf, ASEAN, China(largest trade partner) and now the South Americans are coming. Our pre conditions ....1. stop proxy war 2. stop hate india attitude. Pakistan could have grown much faster if it had normal relations with india.
- Putting kashmir on every stage.....Common guys Kashmir and its people have already suffered a lot due to terrorism and negligence and oppression. they never wanted all of these......and even if pakistan gets control of whole of kashmir Can it feed an extra 5 million people where it is struggling to feed its 175 million people...huh? Can it already burden its already burdened economy with these......what will Pakistan get......land which is mostly mountainous and tundra and unproductive, population which heavily depends on tourists coming mostly from other indian states, military might over india as if it will lower the oil prices down, and permanent enemy India whose till now defensive posture may change into very aggresive, and of course the pakistan's politician would stay longer in his/her office with massive public support'
I'm just imagining few events that supposedly takes place 2015 onwards to change the course of pakistan for ever:
- 2015: Violent clashes start to take place among authorities and separatists, unemployed youth, religious extremist groups etc
- 2015: A chain of terror attacks all over the country leaves 50.000 dead
- 2016: Country goes into a situation like present day libya
- 2017: Army unable to control asks for UN intervention.....India refuses to help saying the situation may infiltrate India.India seals all borders and readies froward bases for any untoward incident.....US, Nato, China intervenes and returns control with help of pak Army.
- 2020: After 3 years of fighting in Pakistan a special agreement is reached between all groups.. The agreement is as follows: NWFP along with some adjoining provinces of Afghanistan is declared a special administrative zone like hongkong and macau of china but under joint command of Pak, Afgh, UNSC. This will be the area of the extremist group who will live here without external interference. the rest of pakistan will be changed from Islamic republic to Democratic republic based on Islamic values and have positive and healthy relations with india to grow economically and healthily. Like India-China relation(business, tourism, etc) in spite of aksai chin and arunachal pradesh there will exist an India-Pakistan relation with Kashmir in the backstage.
I would like to know your honest opinion about my concerns and suggestions as well as imaginationand correct me wherever you feel i stated wrong....all types of opinion especially from pakistani guys are required..