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A secular state is a religious imperative

What was Jinnah's idea of nationhood? Inspired by Allama Iqbal? or was it inspired by something else?

Either you take Jinnah as a visionary practitioner of Allama Iqbal's vision or you take him an opportunist lawyer who rode on a populist movement.

make a decision stick with it and own it.
Except that Jinnah isn't really the father of today's Pakistan. The father of today's Pakistan is Liaquat Ali Khan, the politician who betrayed Jinnah's vision by pushing through the Objectives Resolution, thus setting the new state's course towards an Islamic republic, rather than a secular one.
 
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Except that Jinnah isn't really the father of today's Pakistan. The father of today's Pakistan is Liaquat Ali Khan, the politician who betrayed Jinnah's vision by pushing through the Objectives Resolution, thus setting the new state's course towards an Islamic republic, rather than a secular one.

hmm no wonder you guys killed him.
 
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Pakistan already is secular.

Something that needs to be reversed ASAP.
 
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hmm no wonder you guys killed him.
I'm sure you know that statement is baseless slander. If a majority of Pakistanis agree that such a response was appropriate, we can class such as the product of sixty-plus years of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, right?
 
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I'm sure you know that statement is baseless slander. If a majority of Pakistanis agree that such a response was appropriate, we can class such as the product of sixty-plus years of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, right?

ofcourse its a baseless slander....
but Liaquat Ali Khan was a worthy leader.

as far as whose brainchild this republic became to be.......well it was inevitable... it had to be unless and ofcourse Mongols came...

its simple democratic will of the people to live according to their wishes.... i am thankful if it happened through constitutional means rather than referendum or paris style revolution.

as far as the extremism is concerned...it will be routed out once people see the rule of law prevailing for everyone the rich the poor the powerful the elites and the ordinary.
 
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Pakistanis are happy under whatever left is of the 1973 constitution. Some prefer the original document for e.g. ME and some are happy with all the ammendments..all 18 of them.

its a diverse bunch....
Exactly your last statement says it all. Everyone should be able to practice their faith without trouble and or interference from the state. It ain't that hard.
 
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Exactly your last statement says it all. Everyone should be able to practice their faith without trouble and or interference from the state. It ain't that hard.

and it happens...

come and live in Pakistan to find that out instead of the sweeping statements millions of centimeters away

from Saint festivals to Holi to Hannukah everything is celebrated per apka dard me samajh sakta ho wo ham nahi de sakte apko.. sorry
 
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and it happens...

come and live in Pakistan to find that out instead of the sweeping statements millions of centimeters away

from Saint festivals to Holi to Hannukah everything is celebrated per apka dard me samajh sakta ho wo ham nahi de sakte apko.. sorry
I come to Pakistan every 2 years. I know how it is.

Except that Jinnah isn't really the father of today's Pakistan. The father of today's Pakistan is Liaquat Ali Khan, the politician who betrayed Jinnah's vision by pushing through the Objectives Resolution, thus setting the new state's course towards an Islamic republic, rather than a secular one.
Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones... stfu Jewish state supporter.
 
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Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones... stfu Jewish state supporter.
Except I don't live in a such a house and neither do Israelis: people just say we do: both the U.S. and Israel are heavily secular states without the extra-constitutional/extra-legal curses that bedevil Pakistan.

Defending a slander with another slander does not relive the sin but multiplies it - and is another symptom of the general illness.
 
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Except I don't live in a such a house and neither do Israelis: people just say we do: both the U.S. and Israel are heavily secular states without the extra-constitutional/extra-legal curses that bedevil Pakistan.

Defending a slander with another slander does not relive the sin but multiplies it - and is another symptom of the general illness.
Lmao yeah and I am God himself. Bhenchaud itna jhoot bolnay say sharam nahi ati? Israel secular my a*s. The Wahabi regime and the Iranian mullahs are more secular than you lot. Tomorrow SA can claim to be secular if Israel claims to be, the god damn nation wants to be jewish and it is, with heavy prosecuting bias of anyone that ain't jewish and white. Kicking out black people and we all know what you do with muslims. Piss off idiot.
 
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Lmao yeah and I am God himself. Bhenchaud itna jhoot bolnay say sharam nahi ati? Israel secular my a*s. The Wahabi regime and the Iranian mullahs are more secular -
Now you've just spaced out. No credibility to you there.
 
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Now you've just spaced out. No credibility to you there.
Sure buddy. Just because the media doesn't cover the bullsh*t that Israel does and has become doesn't mean some people don't know. Don't talk crap.
 
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Sure buddy. Just because the media doesn't cover the bullsh*t that Israel does and has become doesn't mean some people don't know. Don't talk crap.
And where do you get your knowledge from? More undocumented and unconfirmed slanders? What efforts have you made to tell the difference between truth and lies?
 
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And where do you get your knowledge from? More undocumented and unconfirmed slanders? What efforts have you made to tell the difference between truth and lies?
Reading proper media outlets. Not the one controlled by the Zionists which is most of mainstream western media these days.

Here's a couple.

https://www.truthdig.com/
https://theintercept.com/
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

But ofc none of that will matter to you anyway. Keep on spinning the world around and around. Can't say you're not doing a good job because you've done it better than anyone in history.
 
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