A Saudi-to-Israel oil pipeline can save the world

[T-72M1]

The only way the Ayatollahs can continue to justify their rule of Iran is on the basis of their messianic religious beliefs. No more messianic sense of mission = Ayatollahs hanging from trees in Tehran as the secularists have their revenge.

Last time the Sunni Kurds, Ahwazis, and Baluchis helped the Ayatollahs seize power from the Shah; I'm quite sure this time they would be on the other side.

they're generally an enlightened people, not radical, not super religious crazy.. I think the Persian people could overthrow the Ayatollah regime in a soft way, or the Ayatollah make the move themselves..

dunno, I can see a democratic civil society there. Turkey, India, Pakistan even, so why not Iran, full democracy -mulla rule ?

 

[libertycall]

the people who did the revolution were the Shiites only
The kurds scumbags were against the revolution
There is no such thing as"ahwazis" that's a Baathists invention

I think you should have a look at the list of Kurdish Sunni ulema who supported the Shiite revolution and were later tortured and executed by the Shia clergy e.g. Sheikh Ahmad Moftizadeh

T-72MI a few years ago the Iranian people tried to have a 'soft revolution' and the clergy responded by collecting thousands of them in prisons and raping and torturing those they didn't kill outright. These are people who came to power by killing HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of the Iranians, and in fact killed so many people that in some cases in the haste they hanged some of their own supporters.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Op-Ed: A Saudi-to-Haifa, Israel oil pipeline can save the world
An out-of-the-box idea for cementing a relationship with the anti-Iran Arab states.
Published: Monday, January 11, 2016 6:31 PM

Mark Langfan
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In World War II, British tanks in Egypt heroically battled Rommel’s tanks coming east from Libya. There have been many movies and TV shows made about these grand battles.
No one seems to have asked a simple question:

Where did the British get the raw unrefined oil, and then the refined oil to fuel their tanks and battleships of the Mediterranean Sea?

Answer: The 500,000 Jews of Mandate Palestine saved Palestine from the Nazi-lover Jerusalem Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini by refining the oil that was transited by a pipeline from the Mesopotamian oil fields to Haifa. Without the 500,000 Jews of 1930-1940 pre-Israel Israel, Great Britain would have been wiped out of the Eastern Mediterranean before the War began.

An Arab-Israel pipeline can save the world in what is shaping up into World War III just as the Arab-Pre-Israel pipeline saved the world in World War II.

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I think there is an even simpler question noone thought about.

Nazi - Germany got involved in Africa to save Mussolini,
and then tried to invade Egypt from Libya to reach the canal,
and eventually access to Arabian Oil.

Why did they not dig for oil in Libya ?

 

[Daneshmand]

Will Israel share the oil with Palestinians too or the Saudis have put a condition for the oil to be used only by Israelis?

Why did they not dig for oil in Libya ?

Too much hubris, I guess.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

The World will be saved when Humanity adopts Fusion Power as main source of energy. Until then, chaos...

 

[Solomon2]

These accusation have failed to sustain by US support who has a bigger stake in UN. Facts are not considered true specially when they are against the state which US has been babysitting for decades. Yankies -

You can write better than that, so hiding behind bad grammar and spelling is no excuse for you.

What would you say about those 34% people of America who think Israel is a aggressor state? Do you also consider them brainwashed?

It shows that America is a land that tolerates differing opinions on the subject, in contrast to Pakistan that by diktat of the education establishment does not.

We take pride in our history and the independence movement, for that is what defines us as a nation: Freedom from slavery and subjucation, discrimination and fear of persecution.

Perhaps you need to re-read what you just wrote, reflecting on the many depressing events since independence that tell otherwise.

What of Europeans coming over to Palestine to claim it as their "homeland" ?
Must all Israelis succumb to this tradition of occupation?

Even these questions have no moral standing, since as I've pointed out - and no one has contested - your society's view of Israel has been enforced by its chief educators and anything that tells otherwise denied. It is a diseased outlook. And regurgitating it marks you as the tool of others So the sooner such ideological enforcement is dropped the sooner your words will have moral standing.

Why compare India's trade with Pakistan's? There's a massive difference in what each imports and exports. Pakistan, unfortunately, is on the lower-end of the global trade and opening up for business with Israel offers no economic incentive.

You started out by telling me about how proud you are of Pakistan and end by claiming Pakistan doesn't have enough economic development to boast about?

 

[Atlanticore]

It shows that America is a land that tolerates differing opinions on the subject

Yeah America is a land of Racists and your idiotic point of view says it all. Growing Global Anti-Israel sentiments have some solid reasons and Pakistan doesn't educate the world. And if you think Pakistani Education Establishment is responsible for the hatred against Israel instead of Israel's own wrong doings then you really need some urgent medical attention.

You started out by telling me about how proud you are of Pakistan and end by claiming Pakistan doesn't have enough economic development to boast about?

Do us a favour keep your Anti-Pakistan sentiment and Pro-Israel separated from your avatar?

 

[simple Brain]

Pakistan should also establish relations with Israel not accepting the existance of a country that exists is kind of silly

Relations with Israel? What Israel? did you mean by the Nation of Moses? or you are referring to one of the Business dude living in UK? I don't see any Country with the name of Israel, if you are referring to the Terrorist organisation that has invaded Palestine than No we do not establish relations with Zionists and their terrorist organisations.

This week the Pakistani military declared that it will protect Saudi Arabia from any invasion. The only likely candidate is Iran. So suddenly Pakistan has to defend itself, as well as Saudi Arabia, from a neighbor with a proven record of subversion and a nascent nuclear weapons program. Turkey understand it can no longer afford the luxury of needless hostility towards Israel. Shouldn't Pakistan, whose exposure to conflict is potentially greater, take the same course?

Wow its quite an impressive news, so Saudis are directly engaged with Israelis in defense co-operation, this is why Pakistan is neutral, Zionists are without a doubt back stabbers, not even CIA trust them, and Saudis are trusting them. It clearly indicates that how dumb and desperate these Royal family People are. And Zionists offer is on table not because they have an extreme sympathies with these bunch of fools, but because Zionists feel threatened everyday due to the existence of Iran. Once these Zionists would get whatever they want, they will surely show their ugly face to Saudis that who really they are. As far as Pakistan is concerned, no we have not yet become so desperate that we will shake hand with Israel, infect the Israel destruction is in the hands of Pakistani Nation, and that time is not far enough.

 

[Zibago]

Relations with Israel? What Israel? did you mean by the Nation of Moses? or you are referring to one of the Business dude living in UK? I don't see any Country with the name of Israel, if you are referring to the Terrorist organisation that has invaded Palestine than No we do not establish relations with Zionists and their terrorist organisations.



Wow its quite an impressive news, so Saudis are directly engaged with Israelis in defense co-operation, this is why Pakistan is neutral, Zionists are without a doubt back stabbers, not even CIA trust them, and Saudis are trusting them. It clearly indicates that how dumb and desperate these Royal family People are. And Zionists offer is on table not because they have an extreme sympathies with these bunch of fools, but because Zionists feel threatened everyday due to the existence of Iran. Once these Zionists would get whatever they want, they will surely show their ugly face to Saudis that who really they are. As far as Pakistan is concerned, no we have not yet become so desperate that we will shake hand with Israel, infect the Israel destruction is in the hands of Pakistani Nation, and that time is not far enough.

IF WE CAN HAVE RELATION WITH INDIA A COUNTRY WITH WHOM WE HAVE BORDER DISPUTES AND WHICH OCCUPIES A MUSLIM MAJORITY AREA LARGER THAN PALESTINE THEN I FIND NO REASON WHY WE CANT HAVE DIPLOMATIC RELATION WITH A COUNTRY WE DONT HAVE DISPUTES WITH

 

[simple Brain]

IF WE CAN HAVE RELATION WITH INDIA A COUNTRY WITH WHOM WE HAVE BORDER DISPUTES AND WHICH OCCUPIES A MUSLIM MAJORITY AREA LARGER THAN PALESTINE THEN I FIND NO REASON WHY WE CANT HAVE DIPLOMATIC RELATION WITH A COUNTRY WE DONT HAVE DISPUTES WITH

Who said that we have a relations with India? The kinda relations we have with India according to you are not less than hostile my friend, and yes that's why we had around four wars with India. Their you have it, the answer of your question lies in your own question. India is our sole enemy and our entire Nuclear and missile program is to protect ourselves from Indian aggression, and why is that? because we know that we cannot have a good relations with India. And far as terrorist Zionists are concerned we have the same stance against them, that they want us to be destroyed and so as we. But if you like that Terrorist Zionist state that much than why don't you apply for their Citizenship and their is a way to enter Israel and that is via Egyptian border, all you have to do is to declare that you have become a Zionist and they will have you, Pakistan don't need you anyway, don't you think?

 

[Hellfire]

We will not be part of any anti iran alliance
Incase of war b/w the two states we will act as mediator

I like the Nehruvian streak here .. utopian. You will be forced to side with Saudi Arabia .. lol

I like how you insult Pakistan's founding fathers and their vision and then expect Pakistanis to look at Israel through your lens.

Human rights and international law indeed !

And pray explain the economic benefits you talk about.

Ah but there is no insult to your founding fathers ..... they did what politics of the time demanded. But of your rulers post independence it is difficult to not be biased against.

 

[Zibago]

Who said that we have a relations with India? The kinda relations we have with India according to you are not less than hostile my friend, and yes that's why we had around four wars with India. Their you have it, the answer of your question lies in your own question. India is our sole enemy and our entire Nuclear and missile program is to protect ourselves from Indian aggression, and why is that? because we know that we cannot have a good relations with India. And far as terrorist Zionists are concerned we have the same stance against them, that they want us to be destroyed and so as we. But if you like that Terrorist Zionist state that much than why don't you apply for their Citizenship and their is a way to enter Israel and that is via Egyptian border, all you have to do is to declare that you have become a Zionist and they will have you, Pakistan don't need you anyway, don't you think?

We do have diplomatic amd economic relations with India who told we dont have relations?
We cannot have good relation with India but we do ha e relation which is a lot different than our status with Israel
We buy Israeli parts for our F-16,s through third parties

Why should i leave Pakistan for having a difference of opinion over a simple logical thing about establishing diplomatic and economic relation with Israel?

 

[Hellfire]

Disagree with you When ALLAH said no jew be a friend of muslim so friendship with israel is out of question

When did Allah say that? If I recall correctly, indeed Prophet Mohammad himself had recognized the advent of Moses and Jesus as holy messengers of GOD! Further if I recall correctly, the Namaz was offered in direction of Jerusalem initially as the Prophet believed it to be a source of his own struggle for following the correct path. It was only after the banding and alliance of the Jews with the non believers who were in Mecca at the time that the Prophet had to accept the hostility of the Jews and consider Mecca as the holy site as it marked his epitome of struggle to get the people on the right path.

So .... when did this statement come to be?

 

[Zibago]

I like the Nehruvian streak here .. utopian. You will be forced to side with Saudi Arabia .. lol



Ah but there is no insult to your founding fathers ..... they did what politics of the time demanded. But of your rulers post independence it is difficult to not be biased against.

Incase of a war we will not take sides because we cant due to our geographical proximity with Iran and the sectarian nature of the conflict

 

[Hellfire]

Incase of a war we will not take sides because we cant due to our geographical proximity with Iran and the sectarian nature of the conflict

I agree with your analysis. But the interesting issue is what will be the Saudi reaction? They have, afterall, been bankrolling your army for decades!