A rotten two party based dynastic political system of Pakistan.

[HAIDER]

The biggest cause of Pakistan economic and political collapse. your take please.

 

[General Dong]

have you been living under a rock the past 13 months? there is really only one party in Pakistan, Fauj.

 

[HAIDER]

have you been living under a rock the past 13 months? there is really only one party in Pakistan, Fauj.

They take the advantage of vacuum left by political parties.... and last many decades our politicians knocking GHQ door... they need to change their habit. Because a time will come this last institution will totally collapsed, its already under target by the political parties and they won't be able to stand up.

 

[nbamba]

They take the advantage of vacuum left by political parties.... and last many decades our politicians knocking GHQ door... they need to change their habit. Because a time will come this last institution will totally collapsed, its already under target by the political parties and they won't be able to stand up.

You are so ridiculous! Who told you that politicians in hereditary dynasties must have no future? Japan, Thailand, Philippines, these countries are much richer than Pakistan, these countries are still controlled by hereditary dynastic politicians, are Pakistanis better educated than Japanese and Thais so that they cannot accept hereditary dynastic politics?


Why did Bhutto and Sharif practice family rule? That's because if they don't implement family rule, PPP and PMLN will easily be divided and bought by the Pakistani military and ISI and eventually disintegrated! After Ali Bhutto was executed, a large number of unsettled elements of the PPP were wooed by the Pakistani military to leave the PPP. After Sharif was replaced by Musharraf, the PML quickly split into PMLN (Q). The suppression of Bhutto and Sharif by the Pakistani military was not comparable to that of Imran Khan. Imran Khan has always been the darling of the Pakistani military!

 

[HAIDER]

You are so ridiculous! Who told you that politicians in hereditary dynasties must have no future? Japan, Thailand, Philippines, these countries are much richer than Pakistan, these countries are still controlled by hereditary dynastic politicians, are Pakistanis better educated than Japanese and Thais so that they cannot accept hereditary dynastic politics?


Why did Bhutto and Sharif practice family rule? That's because if they don't implement family rule, PPP and PMLN will easily be divided and bought by the Pakistani military and ISI and eventually disintegrated! After Ali Bhutto was executed, a large number of unsettled elements of the PPP were wooed by the Pakistani military to leave the PPP. After Sharif was replaced by Musharraf, the PML quickly split into PMLN (Q). The suppression of Bhutto and Sharif by the Pakistani military was not comparable to that of Imran Khan. Imran Khan has always been the darling of the Pakistani military!

Imran Khan is not a cunning politician like PDM etc ... he is taking the beating because he is not bargaining and fighting within the ambit of laws. If today he shakes hands with PPP against PDM and surrenders to the establishment. He will be PM in the next few days.

 

[Olympus81]

You are so ridiculous! Who told you that politicians in hereditary dynasties must have no future? Japan, Thailand, Philippines, these countries are much richer than Pakistan, these countries are still controlled by hereditary dynastic politicians, are Pakistanis better educated than Japanese and Thais so that they cannot accept hereditary dynastic politics?

Thailand, Japan is not. Philippines was a decade ago, not anymore.

Thailand was living under a soft martial law until few years ago, but the military were shown the door.

Coming back to the topic, the biggest cause of political collapse are the military inc.

Not that this is an equation, when the politicians begging to the army to intervene, but why are the Chiefs getting sucked into it?

Political collapse - Military Inc. not allowing grass root democracy and continuity.

Economic collapse - stems from political collapse and lack of long term planning.

 

[nbamba]

Thailand, Japan is not. Philippines was a decade ago, not anymore.

Thailand was living under a soft martial law until few years ago, but the military were shown the door.

All parties in the Philippines are controlled by families, Duterte and his daughter, the Aquino family, and now Marcos. The party controlled by Thailand's Thaksin family is already headed by Thaksin's daughter. All members of the Liberal Democratic Party of Japan are born in political families, almost without exception. This phenomenon is common in many countries that are much more developed and rich than Pakistan. Pakistan should not be blamed for this phenomenon.

 

[Olympus81]

The party controlled by Thailand's Thaksin family is already headed by Thaksin's daughter.

Yes, but they didn’t win the elections. The Future Forward Party has won elections.

Even if Thaksin’s party won, his daughter was 2nd in contention (out of the 3 candidates) to be the PM candidate. The candidates within the party need to be elected.

Not blaming Pakistan, but there is a mechanism within the party to elect the next leaders. Its non existent in PPP and PMLN.