A retired General as Administrator Karachi under CM Sindh?

[Blacklight]

Hello,

Guys, Karachi Mayor Wasim Akhtar will leave office by end of month and there are confirmed rumors that PTI is asking for ALL powerful, non political and independent administrator for Karachi.

Do you guys really think this would become reality?

If Mayor/administrator happens to be from army then I do believe PPP will NEVER dare to sabotage or play politics on anything.

I also believe Karachi needs to be free for certain time from this political bickering.

We want work and development not circus. A neutral non political guy is best fit, it seems.

A man from army as administrator Karachi would certainly be a welcome news.

About time, establishment gets serious about world's SEVENTH largest city and country's financial hub. It is a criminal neglect on part of establishment to ignore Karachi like this.

Karachi needs urgent attention. It's a ticking time bomb. Otherwise it would BLOW right on your face. No need to create another new fault line for Indians to exploit.

Regards,

@MastanKhan @Blacklight @Zibago @Jungibaaz @Mangus Ortus Novem

I would like to nominate Sir @niaz for the post.

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

Impossible currently. Not without a Majority in NA and senate. Both PMLN and PPP amended it in the first place to their own advantage. First it was removing the limit so a person can become PM more then 2 times (for Nawaz), and then 18th Amendment so that each party, PMLN & PPP, can loot their province without interference (PTI is in center, PPP is looting Sindh dry).

Asking the people in NA or senate to vote on amendment to change this is impossible. You are asking those people to close their source of free money. They rather destroy Pakistan rather then give up free money. They know that they hold all the power.

There is a better way.

Article 149 of Pakistan constitution.

But hey, PTI still wants to be the good and bad guy at the same time.

 

[Blacklight]

Hello,

Guys, Karachi Mayor Wasim Akhtar will leave office by end of month and there are confirmed rumors that PTI is asking for ALL powerful, non political and independent administrator for Karachi.

Do you guys really think this would become reality?

If Mayor/administrator happens to be from army then I do believe PPP will NEVER dare to sabotage or play politics on anything.

I also believe Karachi needs to be free for certain time from this political bickering.

We want work and development not circus. A neutral non political guy is best fit, it seems.

A man from army as administrator Karachi would certainly be a welcome news.

About time, establishment gets serious about world's SEVENTH largest city and country's financial hub. It is a criminal neglect on part of establishment to ignore Karachi like this.

Karachi needs urgent attention. It's a ticking time bomb. Otherwise it would BLOW right on your face. No need to create another new fault line for Indians to exploit.

Regards,

@MastanKhan @Blacklight @Zibago @Jungibaaz @Mangus Ortus Novem

Well if it is ex-Army then Regretfully my previous nomination wont do.

I heard Gen Raheel Shareef is going to have a lot of free time on his hand soon. Maybe he could be a candidate?

 

[Jungibaaz]

I don't support army person given such role. I see this as ppp strongly playing their victim card now.

The only way is to amending the constitution so that these ppp and PMLN clowns can never hide behind constitution. Amend it and make nazims responsible for developing their areas, fund them directly.

You trying to solve the issue in rush and im afraid it will create a bigger monster if not done properly. There is a parliament and just like these corrupt clowns abuse parliament and do amendments which allow their black doings, pti could use the same means and bring a long term change, this will also ensure stable change.

The politicisation of Karachi's needs is beyond despicable. And both the federal government and the opposition are taking part. Although obviously it's worse hearing it from PPP who are in charge of this mess.

People need to understand this:

• When the federal government talks about 18th amendment, it has nothing to do with Karachi at all. It's all about provincial finances, federal wants a larger share. That's it. All else is bs.
• When PPP screams about federal intervention in Karachi, they don't give a *** about the people suffering, they are worried that their power is being undermined. Sindh is their only bastion of power, they don't want to lose it. PPP are actually very keen to avoid any election before 2023, they're scared they'll lose power.
• At the same time both PPP and PML agree on constitutional issues, but that has no relevance to the current situation in Karachi.

What should Karachiites do? Forget PPP, PML, PTI, they're all working on their own agendas. They pay lip service, or worse they play politics on the issue.

You NEED to have legislative change to remove provincial hegemony of Sindh over Karachi. In this same way, larger provinces like Punjab needs to devolve power to disgruntled peripheral regions. Karachi needs a local assembly with devolved power. You need local councils which are also elected by locals, together with Karachi level agencies and authorities you need these people to be in charge of every conceivable matter of governance possible. You can decide who you want at the head of these assemblies and authorities, it can be a presidential style mayoral system, or another form of city manager. Until you have this, everything else is just noise.

 

[El Sidd]

There is no such thing as non political unless SC bench sees the process themselves.

 

[H!TchHiker]

Business as usual another truck ki batti

 

[Morpheus]

Article 149 of Pakistan constitution.

That is not the answer. If you read the Article 149 doesn't help at all. The article only gives power to certain aspects of government, and even those actions can be executed only if federal institution work is being hampered by province govt. The article only allows for Federal to give direction to province with limited power.

Example. If province pass a law that somehow prevents FBR from doing any work in Sindh, then Article 149 can be implemented, to allow for whatever course of action to be taken that will allow FBR to start working in Sindh. However during this whole time, province govt will still have power, and can over rule Federal if it wants.

https://pakistanconstitutionlaw.com/article-149-directions-to-provinces-in-certain-cases/

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Just finished listening to PM IK interview excerpt on Karachi.

He just blamed Sindh govt
... we are going courts for local body system =lollypop
... we are planning to give development funds = lollypop



Karachi remains orphan as usual.

Tabdeel for everyone except Karachi.

Bhutto ka baad ab PTI zinda hai.

And what is your proposal, given constitutional limitations?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The PTI govt is not in mood to reverse the 18th amendement,

Do you have any understanding of how constitutional amendments occur? What kind of majority is needed etc?

Do you really think the PTI has the numbers and support to repeal the 18th amendment when it's fighting to even set the agenda for the next NFC award discussions?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I don't think it matters too much who is placed in charge. The political infrastructure is not there in the first place. Let's say it's an army guy, let's assume he's x10 more competent than any civilian esp the Sindh administration. How will he enact any of the changes needed? How is he going to organise local resources? At best he can squabble to co-opt Sindh level administration to do something extra for Karachi, but this won't be effective. And how long can the army sustain extraordinary efforts in Karachi? Whether that's through FWO or some loosely organised Karachi mayoralty? The answer is not very long.

In the end, until I hear about upcoming legislative change, it doesn't matter who is put in charge of Karachi. It would be like asking a pro-racing driver to get you somewhere in a broken down vehicle. You need to change the structure the systems. This means that all those Sindh level authorities need to be mirrored in a Karachi only administration, it means forming an assembly that can deliberate on local matters, it would need for effective local authorities to be subordinate to whoever is put in charge whether that is some general today or some elected mayor in the future. Currently all of these things are missing or only available and established at the provincial level, with not enough local to Karachi.

If you are expecting one guy to show up, no matter how competent or powerful he is, he'll find he has no arms or legs to work with. Don't expect anything worthwhile until you hear about; devolution, local authorities, local assembly, Karachi level administration political structure. All else will fall flat even if there are some minor victories here or there.

Completely agree - what happens when this 'miracle worker' leaves? Without systemic reform and capacity building, the city will fall back into decay and mismanagement.

People are absolutely, justifiably upset about the plight of Karachi, but, as is the case elsewhere in Pakistan, most Pakistanis are looking for quick fixes to problems that have been decades in the making. You have similarly fickle and impatient individuals elsewhere and everywhere in Pakistan, where they are expecting Imran Khan to work miracles in an absurdly short amount of time and have no desire or ability to try and comprehend the systemic capacity and resource limitations that have, again, been decades in the making.

 

[American Pakistani]

Impossible currently. Not without a Majority in NA and senate. Both PMLN and PPP amended it in the first place to their own advantage.

It an easily be arranged. Get establishment involved which can buy few PMLN and ppp and others and they support the amendment.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Did our forefathers left South Asia when it was under Gora Raj?

Mine also never left the Northern Hemisphere.

 

[Baz2020]

Now don't troll me for this but seriously why is army so much involved in running the country. When will we grow up and realise that these retired generals are already a burden on the system even after retirement. What do they know about civil matters? They are least qualified for a city administration job.

 

[Baz2020]

The politicisation of Karachi's needs is beyond despicable. And both the federal government and the opposition are taking part. Although obviously it's worse hearing it from PPP who are in charge of this mess.

People need to understand this:

• When the federal government talks about 18th amendment, it has nothing to do with Karachi at all. It's all about provincial finances, federal wants a larger share. That's it. All else is bs.
• When PPP screams about federal intervention in Karachi, they don't give a *** about the people suffering, they are worried that their power is being undermined. Sindh is their only bastion of power, they don't want to lose it. PPP are actually very keen to avoid any election before 2023, they're scared they'll lose power.
• At the same time both PPP and PML agree on constitutional issues, but that has no relevance to the current situation in Karachi.

What should Karachiites do? Forget PPP, PML, PTI, they're all working on their own agendas. They pay lip service, or worse they play politics on the issue.

You NEED to have legislative change to remove provincial hegemony of Sindh over Karachi. In this same way, larger provinces like Punjab needs to devolve power to disgruntled peripheral regions. Karachi needs a local assembly with devolved power. You need local councils which are also elected by locals, together with Karachi level agencies and authorities you need these people to be in charge of every conceivable matter of governance possible. You can decide who you want at the head of these assemblies and authorities, it can be a presidential style mayoral system, or another form of city manager. Until you have this, everything else is just noise.

You are quite full of yourself

 

[Kabira]

What will army administrator do? Spend defence budget on Karachi?

Without financial devolution this is useless. PPP will be happy as long as they get to control Karachi budget or lack of it.