A Restrictive foreign policy: Is India inviting trouble?

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A Restrictive foreign policy: Is India inviting trouble?
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M. K. Bhadrakumar |

When diplomacy becomes brittle, foreign policies become sub-optimal. India’s diplomacy toward China and Pakistan testifies to it. Dialogue with Pakistan is inevitable, especially in Kashmir where the Indian state has all but lost control. But we revel in muscular diplomacy and slam the door shut on dialogue. Nothing is lost by exploring the potentials of the Belt and Road conference in Beijing. But, again, our “nyet” men have the final word.

India’s restrictive policies... Solution?
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s visit to Russia and the Turkish-Russian agreement on S-400 air defense system.

Alas, we live in an era where engagement across divides is the norm and when we refuse to engage, we are actually punishing ourselves. Take two developments in the past week, which celebrate the power and the glory of engagement – Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s visit to Russia and the Turkish-Russian agreement on S-400 air defense system.

Abe has made one more trip to Russia to meet President Vladimir Putin last week with a persistence that is simply breath-taking. This was his seventeenth meeting with Putin. Abe knows fully well that there isn’t the ghost of a chance of Moscow giving up its sovereignty over the disputed Kuril Islands. Abe’s tactic has been to sway Putin over joint development of the islands. So far, Abe has received next to nothing for his efforts.

Read more: Soft Power: Japan has turned its culture into a powerful political tool

Russo-Japanese relations
Abe is motivated by fundamental security considerations. Faced with security threats from North Korea and China as well as a perennial fear of U.S. abandonment, Japan is prioritizing closer relations with other regional powers.

“Since the Japanese leader cannot be dismissed as some love-struck naif, what then explains his relentless efforts to woo the Russian leader?” — asks a top specialist on Russia-Japanese relations, Prof. James Brown at the Temple University in Tokyo. The expert explains:

First, Abe is an optimist when it comes to the territorial dispute. He fully understands that the return of the four islands is impossible, yet he believes that a deal involving shared sovereignty remains a possibility… The joint economic activities are viewed by Abe as a step toward a condominium arrangement…

Second, Abe is motivated by fundamental security considerations. Faced with security threats from North Korea and China as well as a perennial fear of U.S. abandonment, Japan is prioritizing closer relations with other regional powers. This primarily involves security ties with India, Australia, and South Korea. But this also entails seeking to neutralize the danger of China and Russia forging a close political and military relationship that would be hostile to Japan.

Russo-Turk relations
Moscow has agreed in principle on the delivery of Russia’s advanced S-400 air defense system to Turkey.

A second development in the weekend is simply stunning. The Russian state news agency TASS reported quoting the Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu that Ankara and Moscow have agreed in principle on the delivery of Russia’s advanced S-400 air defense system to Turkey. The proposed deal includes co-production and meets Turkey’s aspiration to develop its own defense industry.

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A Restrictive foreign policy: Is India inviting trouble?

 

[footmarks]

With China, maybe the answer is Yes. We should (and we are, some major differences over a few issues not withstanding) engage more with China. China is India's major trade partner, China and India negotiate together on world forums and there are a lot more areas of convergence and mutual benefit than there are of conflicting terms.

With Pakistan? there is absolutely no positive change we have seen in last 20 years with them, whether we engage with them or not. It has become a futile exercise to be on talking terms with paskitan.

 

[Jacob Martin]

This may apply to India and China. No point being unnecessarily belligerent towards a country that can do both good and harm in equal measure.

As for Pakistan, it will either prosper or collapse. Either case India will cease to have a problem on its hands if it handles the endgame right. No point engaging until then. And the reason is that such "joint development" will not be possible in Kashmir.

 

[Kedardel]

There is no requirement of talking with Pakistan at all. I think silence will let better sense prevail.

 

[maximuswarrior]

With China, maybe the answer is Yes. We should (and we are, some major differences over a few issues not withstanding) engage more with China. China is India's major trade partner, China and India negotiate together on world forums and there are a lot more areas of convergence and mutual benefit than there are of conflicting terms.

With Pakistan? there is absolutely no positive change we have seen in last 20 years with them, whether we engage with them or not. It has become a futile exercise to be on talking terms with paskitan.

India is a state sponsor of genocide against its own people. Minorities are getting killed in India for just practicing their faith. Rape against women is rampant. Dalits are discriminated and humiliated. Goes to show how far India has come since partition. We don't expect India to behave in a normal fashion. India was defeated the day the Brits tore it apart.

Pakistan will keep supporting Kashmiri struggle against an illegal occupation. We couldn't care less about Indian concerns.

Today Pakistan is enjoying massive Chinese investment and friendship. India can only watch in despair and fume with anger. India has everything to lose and there is a reason why your country begs China to halt all cooperation with Pakistan. India sees collapse on one side of occupied Kashmir and happiness and development on the other side. India has massive reasons to be worried.

There is a reason why you Indians gather on Pakistani forums to spew your desperation. You pretend to throw one liners, but in reality you are as desperate as your clueless Nazi leaders. You are losing control and you know it.

 

[Kedardel]

India is a state sponsor of genocide against its own people. Minorities are getting killed in India for just practicing their faith. Rape against women is rampant. Dalits are discriminated and humiliated. Goes to show how far India has come since partition. We don't expect India to behave in a normal fashion. India was defeated the day the Brits tore it apart.

Pakistan will keep supporting Kashmiri struggle against an illegal occupation. We couldn't car less about Indian concerns.

Today Pakistan is enjoying massive Chinese investment and friendship. India can only watch in despair and fume with anger. India has everything to lose and there is a reason why your country begs China to halt all cooperation with Pakistan.

There is a reason why you Indians gather on Pakistani forums to share your desperation. You pretend to throw one liners, but in reality you are as desperate as your clueless Nazi leaders.

How is your post connected with the Topic ??

 

[maximuswarrior]

How is your post connected with the Topic ??

Another despaired Indian trying to save face. You can't conceal your desperation. You are on the losing side of the spectrum. Own up. You can't stop China and Pakistan.

The author of the article is right on the money. India is on the losing side.

 

[Kedardel]

Another despaired Indian trying to save face. You can't conceal your desperation. You are on the losing side of the spectrum. Own up. You can't stop China and Pakistan.

The author of the article is right on the money. India is on the losing side.

How much hate you have man. Calm down buddy. You should be happy India is losing. Indians are happy "losing" (losing by your definition). I clearly admitted India should not talk to Pakistan at all since there is no requirement (this will lead India further loss). In fact we welcome such loss and you should enjoy while we lose.

 

[Max]

for sake of Kashmir, we will turn rest of subcontinent into nuclear waste land. for sake of Kashmir bharat is unable to spread its influence western asia, now facing stiff challenge from China in eastern satellite states, typicall caged elephant. better come to table and work out a formula for peace with Pakistan and China,

those who think current status quo suit you, you are deluded, , we are one false flag away from nuclear annihilation , it can be from anyone, it can be Iran, in you case it could be Chinese who will push Pakistan, it can be any country who want to either remove Pakistan or bharat as hurdle.a big false flag attack which cause thousands of lives and here we go... do you call this ideal situation?

If i want to sound stronk. i can also say we should cut all diplomatic ties with bharat and hang our diplomates who try to establish any contact with bharat.

 

[Kedardel]

for sake of Kashmir, we will turn rest of subcontinent into nuclear waste land. for sake of Kashmir bharat is unable to spread its influence western asia, now facing stiff challenge from China in eastern satellite states, typicall caged elephant. better come to table and work out a formula for peace with Pakistan and China,

those who think current status quo suit you, you are deluded, , we are one false flag away from nuclear annihilation , it can be from anyone, it can be Iran, in you case it could be Chinese who will push Pakistan, it can be any country who want to either remove Pakistan or bharat as hurdle.a big false flag attack which cause thousands of lives and here we go... do you call this ideal situation?

If i want to sound stronk. i can also say we should cut all diplomatic ties with bharat and hang our diplomates who try to establish any contact with bharat.

I think Indian establishment is aware of suicidal tendencies and threat of Nuclear attack everynow and then. I am sure they have already executed plans to keep Pakistan's hands full of issues within Pakistan. The more Pakistan threat of a nuclear attack the more money India should put in Pakistan to keep Pakistan engaged. If I am not wrong, the whole Pakistani Economy can be compared with Mumbai and Delhi NCR combined, so India have options on its table against Nuclear threat. There are enough people in Pakistan who will work against Pakistan (like every country)

 

[footmarks]

There is a reason why you Indians gather on Pakistani forums to spew your desperation. You pretend to throw one liners, but in reality you are as desperate as your clueless Nazi leaders. You are losing control and you know it.

And what is your reason to come on PDF to spew your desperation? I don't understand why you (as your flag shows) are raising your blood pressure for something unrelated to you. Be calm and enjoy your life while it lasts.

 

[Max]

I think Indian establishment is aware of suicidal tendencies and threat of Nuclear attack everynow and then. I am sure they have already executed plans to keep Pakistan's hands full of issues within Pakistan. The more Pakistan threat of a nuclear attack the more money India should put in Pakistan to keep Pakistan engaged.

Much bollywood, all you can do is fund AlQaeed, TTP, ISIS which you are already doing, we are already fighting with them and wining, all i am seeing is lowering terrorism in Pakistan and rising intolerance in gangaland. a Hindu nationalist govt pushing for extremists measures and meddling in lives of Muslims, not in our case. Pakistan should exploit sikhs and Muslims.

If I am not wrong, the whole Pakistani Economy can be compared with Mumbai and Delhi NCR combined, so India have options on its table against Nuclear threat. There are enough people in Pakistan who will work against Pakistan (like every country)

if i am not wrong despite Dehli Mumbai or Chennai having more economy then Pakistan, you still have more poor then sub saharan africa, the most poor in any country, which points toward high income inequality in your country, Mumbai have all the wealth while farmers of maharashtra are committing thousands of suicides every year due to poverty and starvation.

i agree on you last part, Muslim have abundance of traitors, more then any other community.

 

[footmarks]

Much bollywood, all you can do is fund AlQaeed, TTP, ISIS which you are already doing, we are already fighting with them and wining, all i am seeing is lowering terrorism in Pakistan and rising intolerance in gangaland. a Hindu nationalist govt pushing for extremists measures and meddling in lives of Muslims, not in our case. Pakistan should exploit sikhs and Muslims.



if i am not wrong despite Dehli Mumbai or Chennai having more economy then Pakistan, you still have more poor then sub saharan africa, the most poor in any country, which points toward high income inequality in your country, Mumbai have all the wealth while farmers of maharashtra are committing thousands of suicides every year due to poverty and starvation.

i agree on you last part, Muslim have abundance of traitors, more then any other community.

While you are battling your own birthchild of terrorism, we are lifting millions out of poverty every year. Guess who is winning their war?

Income equality is a reality in every part of the world. We can't make every citizen to earn exactly the same amount of money. What we need to do is make everyone self-sufficient, with equal opportunity to work, grow and prosper. That's what we are trying to do, esp with the current govt.

Both India and pakistan have their share of problems, their set of priorities. Take your guess, what is more likely to benefit in the long run - economic prosperity or funding extremists

 

[Jacob Martin]

The quality and tenor of responses from Indian and Pakistani members on this thread itself reveals a lot. A set of posters frothing at the mouth are claiming that Pakistan is gaining control of the narrative and India is losing out as a result.

There is such desperation and hatred in the Pakistani posters on this thread, if this is how you claim Pakistan will prevail then feel free to do so. Just don't slobber all over us please!

 

[Max]

While you are battling your own birthchild of terrorism, we are lifting millions out of poverty every year. Guess who is winning their war?

Income equality is a reality in every part of the world. We can't make every citizen to earn exactly the same amount of money. What we need to do is make everyone self-sufficient, with equal opportunity to work, grow and prosper. That's what we are trying to do, esp with the current govt.

Both India and pakistan have their share of problems, their set of priorities. Take your guess, what is more likely to benefit in the long run - economic prosperity or funding extremists

Pakistan have less poverty then you despite being on bumpy ride since independence. anyways its not me who bring this Mumbai have more shit then Pakistan, its your fellow.

as for last part, that's why i support serious dialogue, find a room and unlock our diplomates until they find permanent solution to our disputes so we can concentrate on our problems.

its not good to have obsessed enemies especially if they are 1.3 billion, they kill all you freedom and privacy on cyber space. i can not surf facebook for 10 minute without looking a bharati barking at my country, there are more comment of your countrymen on our daily talk shows then of Pakistani people. then we have thousands of propaganda channels which are making youtube filthy. as a Pakistani, i want less obsessed bharati.