A religious question

[LaBong]

From what i understand there are two kinds of evolution..."micro evolution" and "macro evolution". Micro evolution is scientific. It is observable, it is testable. What evolutionists do though, is they show this word “evolve” and make you think that the examples of micro evolution which they are able to give, is somehow magically evidence for macro evolution which is the other meaning of the word. Macro evolution would say the dog and the rose had a common ancestor and the common ancestor was a rock. You wait long enough, the rock will turn into a dog and a rose.

Explain this -

 

[Safriz]

Is that the best defense you've got?
Ok, agreed that its a theory. But then you forget that this theory has been supported by scientific evidence and all evidence till date points to the fact that this theory is indeed true. Oh, btw, when you swear by "theory of relativity' or the 'theory of electrodynamics" or the 'Peizoelectric theory' - all their real world practical applications included, you do remember that those are theories, right?
Now, compare and contrast scientific theories to fairy tales.

the argument is not.only about theory of evolution as explained by science....parts of it do seem very plausible and may well have happened as explained..
but the main argument is that can all this complex process happrned unguided..all by itself?

 

[StandForInsaf]

If the big bang theory is to be believed...then we are all a product of "nothing".

what about sting theory? and reflectivity ? and gravity ? and newton laws?

 

[LaBong]

If the big bang theory is to be believed...then we are all a product of "nothing".

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The theory of both the creationists and the evolutionists are "religious". There is no point saying otherwise because it simply isn't true.

And I'd not ask the rationale behind this bizarre one liners.

 

[Mech]

For the big bang/evolutionists....a question,

If a spinning object breaks apart in a frictionless environment (which the Big Bang would have been all the matter in the one dot), a spinning object breaking apart in a frictionless environment will send all the pieces off spinning the same direction because the outer part is moving faster than the inner part. Simple physics. I mean it is faster around the outside than it is the inside of the circle and so it maintains the same direction of spin.If the whole universe started like a swirling dot, [then there was a] Big Bang, shouldn’t everything be spinning the same way?

 

[Safriz]

for atheists if some scientist made amino avid in a pippet by electrocuting and boiling it for a month......thats proof enough that all of us came into existence on our own..and there is no god...

 

[LaBong]

the argument is not.only about theory of evolution as explained by science....parts of it do seem very plausible and may well have happened as explained..
but the main argument is that can all this complex process happrned unguided..all by itself?

It's very complex process in your eyes, but actually its very simple and unit change at a step executed in millions of years timespan, the process is trial and error! The God don't do error!

 

[gubbi]

the argument is not.only about theory of evolution as explained by science....parts of it do seem very plausible and may well have happened as explained..
but the main argument is that can all this complex process happrned unguided..all by itself?

All evidence till date - and by evidence I mean scientific, experimental evidence - points that it is true. Unless you or anyone else can come up with experimental evidence for "guided" or "intelligent design". And I mean irrefutable evidence.

 

[pmukherjee]

You say "proved". What Darwin did was "theorize". There is a great difference between a scientifically proven statement and an ambiguous theory.

A theory supported by observation is a proven theory till such time observations crop up which may show that theory to be inconsistent and therefore unreliable. Study of thousands of unearthed fossil records have supported Darwin's hypothesis of evolution. Einstein's theories have been challenged by the String Theory but no one has challenged Darwin's theory yet.

 

[LaBong]

For the big bang/evolutionists....a question,

If a spinning object breaks apart in a frictionless environment (which the Big Bang would have been all the matter in the one dot), a spinning object breaking apart in a frictionless environment will send all the pieces off spinning the same direction because the outer part is moving faster than the inner part. Simple physics. I mean it is faster around the outside than it is the inside of the circle and so it maintains the same direction of spin.If the whole universe started like a swirling dot, [then there was a] Big Bang, shouldn’t everything be spinning the same way?

Now do I need to put rebuttals of Dr Hovind's tomfoolery available everywhere in interweb?

 

[Mech]

Ica Stones. Down in Peru, they found a human vertebrae with dinosaur bones, together. They found what came to be known as the Ica stones, with people riding dinosaurs, and people hunting dinosaurs. Over 50,000 of these stones have been found. Now these are over hundreds of years old.

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Now do I need to put rebuttals of Dr Hovind's tomfoolery available everywhere in interweb?

Prove it wrong then. It seems quite convincing to me.

 

[LaBong]

Explain the life-cycle of virus, creationists!

 

[Mech]

Okay lads i have to go now.....Gas dynamics exam in two days. Will carry this debate forward after i do a bit of studying; IF it isn't closed yet.

Regards,

 

[LaBong]

Ica Stones. Down in Peru, they found a human vertebrae with dinosaur bones, together. They found what came to be known as the Ica stones, with people riding dinosaurs, and people hunting dinosaurs. Over 50,000 of these stones have been found. Now these are over hundreds of years old.

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Prove it wrong then. It seems quite convincing to me.

The guys who's peddling the snake oil of ice stone almost ended up in jail for fraudulence, you know!

Here's the rebuttal.

Criticism of Dr. Hovind

 

[pmukherjee]

For the big bang/evolutionists....a question,

If a spinning object breaks apart in a frictionless environment (which the Big Bang would have been all the matter in the one dot), a spinning object breaking apart in a frictionless environment will send all the pieces off spinning the same direction because the outer part is moving faster than the inner part. Simple physics. I mean it is faster around the outside than it is the inside of the circle and so it maintains the same direction of spin.If the whole universe started like a swirling dot, [then there was a] Big Bang, shouldn’t everything be spinning the same way?

You are talking of Singularity. The Big Bang originated from Singularity that is a point so small that all gravitation, space and time is rendered meaningless, centrifugal force would not exist in conditions of singularity. This was predicted in the theory of General Relativity but was subsequently challenged by Quantum Mechanics. The String Theory is trying to amalgam the two and come out with a combined solution which stands the test of both. it is basically work in progress.