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^Even the Taliban want the foreign troops out and want to effectively rule Afghanistan again. But do they have a vision for the country five years hence ? Or do they want their same old same old of burqa'ed women out of schools and workplaces ? Asiya Andrabi and her husband yes want self-determination for Kashmir but what is their vision for the region five years hence ? A Kashmiri version of Taliban-ruled Afghanistan ?
And this female's son seems also to be some Talibanized type who supported the former Bombay films actress Zaira Waseem in her morality-led decision to quit acting.
You should ask the three woman members of that former music band Pragaash whether they would like living in Asiya Andrabi's paradise.
Strawmans arguments.
I already made it clear that it is not only Asia who wants to throw your oppressors out. Secular nationalists of JKLF want the same and so do the moderates. Your rapist and murderer army is perhaps what you want the Kashmiris to accept. Till this day, over 11k reported incidents of molestation have been carried out by your army. Rape has been used as a weapon of war against freedom movement by your army [acknowledged by Human Rights watch and UNHRC]. Over 70k people murdered, over 5k houses destroyed, over 10k missing. Valley dotted with detention centers which put Abu Ghuraib and Gitmo to shame. A third of population suffering from PTSD.....yet Asia's burka is a bigger problem than Indian occupation. RIP logic.
So you want Asia out and RSS sanghis (many of whom are in Indian forces) who want to kill and rape Kashmiris in...in-short continuation of Indian colonization in Kashmir...again RIP logic.
You fail to recognize three basic issues:
1- Kashmir is occupied by India which is behaving like a colonial power and suppressing aspirations of local population through brute force.
2- Gross human rights violations carried out by Indian state.
3- The fate of Kashmir must be decided by the Kashmiris themselves. Not by India and not by Pakistan.
Now, until you swallow your socialist Indian nationalist pride and recognize the aforementioned issues, it is useless to talk to you.
P.S You talk about govt framework post-independence as if Indian occupation framework is the best in the world. And you don't know much about Taliban or Afghanistan so better stay on topic instead of digressing. Your communists killed over 30K in Pul-e-Charki and elsewhere when they brought their "popular revolution" so your kind has no leg to stand on when it talks about morality and human rights. If you want to talk about Afghanistan then this is not the thread for it.
TBH with you, your mentality wants to make me puke now...And this female's son seems also to be some Talibanized type who supported the former Bombay films actress Zaira Waseem in her morality-led decision to quit acting.
Your Indian state is keeping her, her husband and scores of other political prisoners (including Yasin Malik of JKLF) in isolated cells....yet some actress's decision to quit Bollywood vulgarity and someone supporting that decision is the greatest "terrorism" in the world and not the crimes committed by your state. Sorry to say, you are no better than Stalin and Beria.
Kashmir is a matter of survival for Pakistan, and a matter of ego for India.I think I believe that too, which is why my solution for Kashmir goes through changing the political, social and economic structure of India and Pakistan.
I will leave it at that. If you are smart.
Your "practical solution" wont bring peace. Even if you hand over AJK to India, that won't bring peace either.I do not deny that your argument has a sound basis but just think about the alternatives.
India would b quite happy if we accept the LOC as the international border; which it is in all but name since 1948, whichever way you look at it. This is definitely not acceptable to the majority of Pakistanis or the Kashmiris.
Agreed that Musharraf's proposal (suggested in my post) would be difficult at this point in time, but tell me honestly, is there any other " Practicable solution?
The doves on our side like yourself are usually too optimistic when they think about mending ties and foregoing claim on Kashmir. The thing which doesn't ever cross their mind is that India wants regional hegemony, and us foregoing claim on Kashmir (which we practically did during Musharaf's time) won't do any good as it didn't do any good back then. Momin doesn't get bitten from one hole twice!
No one says go to war but what guarantee there is that throwing Kashmir away will solve all problems of the region? do they care about IWT or UN resolutions? what makes you think that it will be a safe bet?
Furthermore, they no longer want to talk with us at all on Kashmir. With the Modi govt, the facade is no more. But still you fail to see the reality. Afsoos, sad afsoos.