A new generation takes up arms in Kashmir

[Metanoia]

@M. Sarmad Perfecto!

 

[oOo]

Kashmir issue in fact is one of the most complicated issues in International Law. Explaining it in simple black and white is simply not possible.


As for your assertion that Princely States were bound to join either of the Dominion.:

"Constitutionally and legally the Indian States will be independent sovereign states on the termination of paramountcy and they will be free to decide for themselves to adopt any course they like. It is open to them to join the Hindustan Constituent Assembly, or the Pakistan Constituent Assembly, or decide to remain independent " (Jinnah , June 17, 1947)



Please read again, carefully

And interestingly none of them is independent. Not even the one Jinnah congratulated for being a free nation.

Have enough with you on this, don't want to start again.

 

[El Sidd]

Get ready to be stood up mate

You dont get ready to be stood up.

Negative thinking comes naturally to You guys mate

good stop discussing kashmir then.

Its a disputed territory. You settle matters with Talks and not scrapping your Problems under the carpet.

It did Not help in 70 years.

 

[M. Sarmad]

And interestingly none of them is independent. Not even the one Jinnah congratulated for being a free nation.

H. V. Hodson, a Constitutional Advisor to Viceroy Linlithgow, in his book the Great Divide mentions of a deal between Mountbatten and Sardar Patel on States' accession to India at all costs. Patel is quoted to have told Mountbatten; "I will buy a basket of 565 apples", the computed number of states-but if there are even two or three apples missing, the deal is off". Mountbatten responded: "if I give you a basket with, say, 560 apples, will you buy it?" Patel replied "I might" (Hodson, Great Divide, pp. 367-8.) The bargain was struck and the ostensible reward was the assurance of Governor Generalship of independent India !!

 

[MultaniGuy]

Islam is for all humanity and all land



Islam is a religion not ethnicity, Kashmiris are still Kashmiris they just dont want to be pagans anymore, The Pandits betrayed Kashmiriyat by supporting foreign hindus against their own people and paid the price




Whole point of Partition was that we didn't have to live with hindus anymore

Jinnah was right
Hindus had been psychologically and mentally damaged by 1000 years of muslim rule and would justify the persecution of even unarmed muslim civilians because of the mental scars they carried from muslim domination
As a result Jinnah was adamant hindus could not be trusted and he was 100% correct..
Pakistan was thus born.
Kashmir is a ethnic, religious, cultural and linguistic extension of Northern Pakistan they even look North Pakistani as opposed to the blacker hindus of india

Pakistan is a nuclear power with over 150 nuclear warheads and a significant world military and we are happy and willing to take on a hated hindu enemy in india under any circumstances

Kashmir must be free of the presence of foreign black hindu types stinking up the place, the Pandits can return but they are and will remain a minority

Absolutely spot on.

Islam became the religion of the land when the locals converted to Islam.

But these Indian buffoons are trying to think otherwise.

Whatever, the point is that Kashmir is disputed territory. A Plebiscite was to be held by India in J&K but never held it. The fault is on India's side.

Pakistan has the moral ground here.

 

[Corona]

You dont get ready to be stood up.

Negative thinking comes naturally to You guys mate

A smart person would, especially when you've been constantly stood up for 70 years despite your best efforts.
I'm all for a peaceful solution to the Kashmir issue, just that it won't be a freebie. Gotta get something in return. And don't give me peace and prosperity BS, it'll take something more shiny.

 

[CIS-TRANS]

Kashmir is not a bilateral issue anymore, its rather an international issue since bilateral India-Pakistan talks can never resolve the conflict, and no party will make any compromise in future, that idea has proven absolute failure for many decades. As this conflict has caused more than a 100,000 lives in Kashmir and continuous violation of basic human rights by indian forces against local Kashmiris, this situation entails recurrent possibility of disastrous war between both nuclear armed neighbours and the silence of international community on this issue testing the restraint of young kashmiris, They are directly suffering from it and hence are left on their own, so they don't have any other option but to stand and resist against the occupying forces of India.

 

[Rollno21]

India is not ready to accept any compromise while Pakistan was ready specially during Mush time.

If India have bigger mindset than they have offered Kashmir to Pakistan in return of EU type arrangements between both countries, which could have expanded to whole SAARC.

It can be true about Pakistan as well,Pakistan could show bigger mindset and offer kashmir to India and in return for EU type arrangements between India and Pakistan which could be expanded to whole saarc

 

[Corona]

Kashmir is not a bilateral issue anymore, its rather an international issue since bilateral India-Pakistan talks can never resolve the conflict, and no party will make any compromise in future, that idea has proven absolute failure for many decades. As this conflict has caused more than a 100,000 lives in Kashmir and continuous violation of basic human rights by indian forces against local Kashmiris, this situation entails recurrent possibility of disastrous war between both nuclear armed neighbours and the silence of international community on this issue testing the restraint of young kashmiris, They are directly suffering from it and hence are left on their own, so they don't have any other option but to stand and resist against the occupying forces of India.

And how is the international community gonna make any difference? Any solution they propose is gonna be refused by either India or Pakistan. And what option does that leave? Is the UN gonna invade on the behalf of Kashmiris?
Trust me everybody knows what's gonna happen if they get involved. They're smart, they wouldn't touch Kashmir with a 10 foot pole.

 

[UnitedPak]

Area for newer mass graves have been marked, Azadi ke parwano ko wahin dafan karenge !!

Being an edgy little bugger is not going to help you Ranjeet, now or ever. Might just get you banned though

 

[ranjeet]

Being an edgy little bugger is not going to help you Ranjeet, now or ever. Might just get you banned though

Me getting banned here won't change how these new generation of freedom fighters will be dealt with. They sealed their fate once they decided to pick a wepaon against the nation and wage a war.

 

[El Sidd]

A smart person would, especially when you've been constantly stood up for 70 years despite your best efforts.
I'm all for a peaceful solution to the Kashmir issue, just that it won't be a freebie. Gotta get something in return. And don't give me peace and prosperity BS, it'll take something more shiny.

first of all.... all that glitter is not gold

and

By a peaceful solution of Kashmir. India can keep the rest of the fragile dominion in check by dispersing the 700k troops efficiently across the country.

 

[UnitedPak]

Me getting banned here won't change how these new generation of freedom fighters will be dealt with. They sealed their fate once they decided to pick a wepaon against the nation and wage a war.

Most of Kashmir then... At least you realise you have already lost the region.

 

[Amalek]

Most of Kashmir then... At least you realise you have already lost the region.

The Indian Army should have solved this issue in 1948 itself. Going to the UN was a mistake.

 

[waz]

The Indian Army should have solved this issue in 1948 itself. Going to the UN was a mistake.

The IA was not able to do that's why you went. Stop stating things which have been debunked many times over. Both countries were at a stalemate at the front.