A military coup is impossible in India

[kas786]

Continue the shenanigans like the one you guys did this year for a decade or something and you'll realize that nothing is impossible.

Military coups don't happen just for the personal ambitions of the general. Somewhere there is deep down good intentions to 'save' the country.

I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not. But in Musharraf's case, I think he did it to save his a$$.

 

[russellpeters]

a military coup is very improbable in India, a) because we are a state that has an army, and not vice versa and b) because the military is committed and indoctrinated to protect the civilian government,

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Continue the shenanigans like the one you guys did this year for a decade or something and you'll realize that nothing is impossible.

Military coups don't happen just for the personal ambitions of the general. Somewhere there is deep down good intentions to 'save' the country.

No chance. Lets talk about this subject again a decade (or even two) down the line.
We'll then be able to discuss the "where and why-for" of all the coups that can (and will) occur in the neighborhood.

About that "saving the country", the Indian population including illiterate Indians in a Pagree (like the bloke in Sparlingway's Avatar) did it way back in 1977 by unseating Indira Gandhi (the most powerful PM in India). They did not need any Gernail with a danda to do it for them. Neither will they need any such assistance in the future if required.

 

[Tshering22]

I said this before and shall say it again: Nothing is impossible under the sun. If CCP can control a country 3 times bigger than us with more population, I think our military can easily control the country if push comes to shove.

 

[janon]

Actually a military coup is impossible in most civilised countries, because in properly functioning nation states, the state owns the military, not the other way round. Most countries have an army, but in some cases, the army has a country. Only in the latter scenario will coups take place.

The funny thing is, for people in places that fall under the first category, it is ridiculous to think of the military governing the country. And in places that fall under the latter category, people almost expect the military to do just that, and wonder why other militaries don't do that.

Thats why the army charging in and evicting the government and ruling the country is unthinkable in countries like India or france or britain or new zealand or australia or japan or canada or, as I said earlier, in any properly functioning nation state. Unfortunately, some countries were not formed on the basis of a proper identity, but were invented as an artificial entity, and the democratic tradition of people ruling themselves, and maintaining an army to protect their interests, never took root. In such places, which were artificially created, with no "boots on the ground" (and by boots i mean a proper political class that works among the people and comes from the people), the people with guns (power) control others. In such places, the people have to obey the diktats of whoever has guns.

Now in India we respect the military because it is a fine, professional warfighting force. Just because they are excellent at what they do, it is ridiculous to expect them to be good in other activities, like governing the nation. That should be left to people who's job it is to govern. There are many professionals who are good at doing what they do - doctors, engineers, IT people, singers, film directors, actors, journalists. But just because they are good at what they do doesnt mean that we expect them to get into the work of running the country. (They can individually get elected if they want to, but they as a whole cant take over governance.) So just as it is ridiculous to expect or ask the surgeons to conduct a coup and start running the government, it is ridiculous to ask or expect the professionals of the armed forces to do that.

Just because you are dissatisfied with governance doesnt mean you ask people of another profession to take over that profession on masse. Nobody wants all the doctors to do a coup and take over governance, right? Thats exactly why you shouldn't ask or expect professional militarymen/women to do it either. Let them do their profession. Governance is not going to be any better if they decide to take over executive and legislative functions - it is going to be as bad as it is now, with the added insult that they are doing it only because they have guns. In addition to all the ills that the political class have today (which by the way is not a lot worse than in many other countries), these people will also have the additional ill that they won't be accountable to the people. Which is why people should govern themselves, and raise a fine warfighting force to protect their interests, like we have done in India. Not have a bunch of guys with guns who rule people who dont have guns or military training - that is something that would only be acceptable to someone who has a slave mentality.

Our militarymen, like those of other functioning modern nation states, want to be warfighters/defenders, not slavemasters ruling and controlling powerless masses. I would say we are lucky.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

I said this before and shall say it again: Nothing is impossible under the sun. If CCP can control a country 3 times bigger than us with more population, I think our military can easily control the country if push comes to shove.

May be they "can". After all the Gernails and Kernails have some dandas. But the day they do so, people will spit on them. Which they know very well. So they continue polishing their guns and whatever else they need to do their jobs.

Running a country is not part of it .

 

[Nair saab]

Not Possible Cozz the Defense of the Country is not entirely entrusted on the Indian Army... there r May more forces in India which has no Link with Army... Like below....

Paramilitary Forces ( Strength 2.5 million) - Which is under various agencies , MOD , HM & various Law enforcement agency ...


BSF ( about 3 lakh) - under MOH...

CRPF (210 battalions with 1200 men each ) -under MOH

ITBP ( 1.5 lakh ) - under various agencies

CISF (1.5 lakh) -under MOH

NSG (10,000 ) -under MOH

SSB (1 lakh) -under MOH

Beside all those each state has have there own Police force ... & almost all of them have teams trained as good as the Army itself for Anti-terrorist & Anti-Naxal operations...

If a Coup occurs every available men will be under the one command of MOD... which will really give a tough time for the army ... these forces r many times bigger than the Indian army itself...can be put under uniform command if a emergency is declared in a situation of a Military Coup or a all out two front war which will directly work under MOD not under Indian army Chief...

apart from that Indian army is divided into 6 command & each one is independent of the Indian army chief itself & answerable only to MOD...

So the Dream of a Coup dissolves in my evening hot Soup...

 

[Contract Killer]

anything is possible within a failed state.

Lol................... do you know what you said just now? what your above line means in context to your Mother Country.

 

[Sergi]

I said this before and shall say it again: Nothing is impossible under the sun. If CCP can control a country 3 times bigger than us with more population, I think our military can easily control the country if push comes to shove.

Bro PLA is a part or arm of CCP or CPC and CPC is in power from start. I mean from PRC. Plus chinesnpeople are trained to shut up. We Indians nut up for no reasons. So having this big reason is good enough for people. And what we know about China ? Are you sure we hear 100% truth. I will not dare to say it about India let alone china and be assure this isnt the first time that army and GOI are in dispute. This is the first time it has been Public. This is good lesson for upcoming COAS to not to make it public.
On coup thing we are not banana republic. Armys oath is to server the nation and upheld the constitution. President is supreme commander not chief. No one person from one single regiment will be able to convince other regiments to follow his orders against the oath. Even if a highly insane officer of high rank dare to do it. He has to fight first his own people let alone police and para milletry forces. I will consider NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE in this case if and only if our beloved Mr. Lalu prasad can climb on mount everest with all his family. Till then it's like our Pak friends It is possible to take down India
Independant judiciary and apolitical nature of our army from day 1. Made it IMOSSIBLE. Even in Pak it's not that easy. Musharraf was lucky and Sarif unlucky

 

[shelly]

anything is possible within a failed state.

im sure you guys know. i agree with you

 

[Hobo1]

anything is possible within a failed state.

If India is failed state i sudder to think what term you would use to describe yr own state.

 

[karan.1970]

anything is possible within a failed state.

Post reported for bringing in Pakistan into a thread about India

 

[harpoon]

I said this before and shall say it again: Nothing is impossible under the sun. If CCP can control a country 3 times bigger than us with more population, I think our military can easily control the country if push comes to shove.

China is a country with majority of people belonging to a single race, speaking a single language and Chinese people from time immemorial have answered to single unquestionable authority whether its the emperor or CPC. Not so in India. Our diversity is our biggest obstacle against a coup or a dictator taking power. Also Indians didn't have a habit of bowing down to authorities so easily. The British and the Mugals before them controlled territories by cutting deals with the locals.

 

[Manas]

Coup is possible if they agree to allow 50% reservation for SC,ST and OBC in the Lt Gen Ranks.

Indian democracy gave opportunities for its traditionally backward castes who are also majority of the population to share political power with the upper caste to rule the country .So these people'll never give up democracy for anything else be it military coup or communistic dictatorship.

 

[TOOHCIKKAP]

anything is possible within a failed state.

Such wishful and logical thinking...if only GOD gave cows the ability to fly..my roof top would have been full of dung and my vegetable garden , aplenty of organic manure.