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A lie repeated often becomes truth---- the west used this trick to Xinjiang

So nobody tells any Uighurs to go there? They just sign up for these training sessions voluntarily...not required to take them nor required to be there?

Is that your interpretation of how it works?
I never said "voluntarily". Terrorism can not be wiped out voluntarily. On the contary, Anti terrorism campaign is a painful process, full of involuntary measures. But we have to do it. No one wants to see doctor. But you have to when you are sick.
 
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I never said "voluntarily". Terrorism can not be wiped out voluntarily. On the contary, Anti terrorism campaign is a painful process, full of involuntary measures. But we have to do it. No one wants to see doctor. But you have to when you are sick.

So what are the supposed Western lies now?

I believe the original claim by the West was that up to 1M Uighurs have been forced to go to indoctrination camps where they are "reprogrammed". BTW I don't remember them ever being called "deathcamps".

Chinese media then denied that these camps exist. Satellite photos were laughed off as "fake" or pointing to non-used buildings. Then they said it was voluntary "job training". The barbed wires around the camps are not there to keep people in.

Now you are saying these places actually exist. In these places potential "terrorists" are "reprogrammed".
 
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I'm pretty sure all the Pakistani men whose Uyghur wives had gone back to China and held and never allowed to return were all lying and pretending and it was all set up by the Pakistani government to malign China?








Stop covering up the actions of your government. That's if you are actually a citizen and not a CCCP paid trouble creator.


What is stopping China from allowing free access to several vloggers or independent journalists to prove its case?
You claim there is no proof. There are testimonies of tones of people in the Internet.
What else do you expect to come out of a controlled and subjugated society like yours?
Can anyone say anything freely in China and not disappear?
Should I give you proof and examples for that?

Or should I now trust a representative of the Chinese regime to spread some truth?
Are you sure these uyghur wives didn't engage in terrorism or radicalized? I have seen their photo. Seems like they all practice wahabbi. Under Chinese law or any countries law, anybody funding terrorism or separatist is a crime.

Of cos the pro western Pakistan media will claim as if those wives are really innocent and commit nothing wrong. You really think Chinese authorities will arrest people for not reason?
 
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So what are the supposed Western lies now?

I believe the original claim by the West was that up to 1M Uighurs have been forced to go to indoctrination camps where they are "reprogrammed". BTW I don't remember them ever being called "deathcamps".

Chinese media then denied that these camps exist. Satellite photos were laughed off as "fake" or pointing to non-used buildings. Then they said it was voluntary "job training". The barbed wires around the camps are not there to keep people in.

Now you are saying these places actually exist. In these places potential "terrorists" are "reprogrammed".
Where are the "genocide"(Which was firstly defined by Mike Pompeo, not some random guy) and "massive rapes"accusations? The training schools are to save those who were brainwashed by terrorism. Stopping terrorism expansion itself is a way of protecting human right. Why western countries care terrorists human right more than the victims of terrorist attacks.

Compared with US bombers and UAV, China is a better human right protector.
Are you sure these uyghur wives didn't engage in terrorism or radicalized? I have seen their photo. Seems like they all practice wahabbi. Under Chinese law or any countries law, anybody funding terrorism or separatist is a crime.

Of cos the pro western Pakistan media will claim as if those wives are really innocent and commit nothing wrong. You really think Chinese authorities will arrest people for not reason?
Exactly. We know there are many Uyghur jihad brides outside China. And they want to come back to China.
 
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Of cos the pro western Pakistan media

LOL! Anybody that says something China doesn't like is now "pro-Western" nulling out all their other pro-China views.

Must maintain everybody as a faceless Borg sheep not having a diverging opinion. The CCP demands a unified collective.
 
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LOL! Anybody that says something China doesn't like is now "pro-Western" nulling out all their other pro-China views.

Must maintain everybody as a faceless Borg sheep not having a diverging opinion. The CCP demands a unified collective.
Chinese cry about some Asians in America being attacked (mostly by blacks) as anti-Asian persecution brought about by Trump's rhetoric, meanwhile they claim all is well in Xinjiang.

In reality, that region is occupied land, the people there are completely different both culturally and racially to the Han Chinese which is why China is indeed conducting a soft genocide of them, not through gas chambers or firing squads, but through Weapons of Mass Migration, of Han men who take up Uighur wives in a coercive manner and the resulting offspring is brought up in a Han culture, and is also racially different.
 
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completely different both culturally and racially to the Han Chinese which is why China is indeed conducting a soft genocide of them, not through gas chambers or firing squads, but through Weapons of Mass Migration, of Han men who take up Uighur wives in a coercive manner and the resulting offspring is brought up in a Han culture, and is also racially different.

This is the exact reason. To Han they aren't "Us" so "they have to go".
 
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This is the exact reason. To Han they aren't "Us" so "they have to go".
That being said, it has to be remembered that most great powers are often knee deep in 'human rights abuses' nowadays, the US gas destroyed far more livelihoods than China has (so far), this Uighur thing is just a way to demonise the PRC.

However, it is ludicrous to think that what is happening in Xinjiang is not bad, as OP seems to be insinuating.
 
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The Chinese government sham about "volunteer re-training" camps is unraveling.
Now even Amnesty International is speaking out


Soon the Chinese dbl-speak will occur here when you'll say there was never any official Chinese statement calling these detentions "voluntary" and it was actually "involuntary precautionary re-training".
Haha, ONLY IDIOTS will trust Amnesty International especially with regards to China.

Tom Lantos responded to MacArthur's allegations. He wrote that "Mr. MacArthur's deceptive article serves only the cynics who seek to rewrite the history of the Persian Gulf war" noting "the article's sinister innuendo suggests that the girl was not even in Kuwait at the time of the Iraqi invasion, and that the whole gruesome incident was a diabolical plot by an American public relations firm." [68] Lantos wrote that "the fact that Nayirah was the daughter of the Ambassador of Kuwait made her a more credible witness" and that "her relationship to the Ambassador and Government enhanced her credibility."[68] He also noted that "her account was consistent with the information we received from other witnesses, with hundreds of other atrocity stories from Kuwait carried by media around the globe, and consistent with reports by independent human rights organizations, such as Amnesty International, who also testified at our hearing and subsequently published accounts similar to Nayirah's."[68] Lantos concluded that "given the countless cases of verified Iraqi human rights violations", it was "unnecessary and counterproductive to invent atrocities."

Of course Nayirah's LIES are consistent with other orchestrated PAID LIARS.
GOOD LUCK TRUSTING AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL LIES.
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Haha, ONLY IDIOTS will trust Amnesty International especially with regards to China.

Tom Lantos responded to MacArthur's allegations. He wrote that "Mr. MacArthur's deceptive article serves only the cynics who seek to rewrite the history of the Persian Gulf war" noting "the article's sinister innuendo suggests that the girl was not even in Kuwait at the time of the Iraqi invasion, and that the whole gruesome incident was a diabolical plot by an American public relations firm." [68] Lantos wrote that "the fact that Nayirah was the daughter of the Ambassador of Kuwait made her a more credible witness" and that "her relationship to the Ambassador and Government enhanced her credibility."[68] He also noted that "her account was consistent with the information we received from other witnesses, with hundreds of other atrocity stories from Kuwait carried by media around the globe, and consistent with reports by independent human rights organizations, such as Amnesty International, who also testified at our hearing and subsequently published accounts similar to Nayirah's."[68] Lantos concluded that "given the countless cases of verified Iraqi human rights violations", it was "unnecessary and counterproductive to invent atrocities."

Of course Nayirah's LIES are consistent with other orchestrated PAID LIARS.
GOOD LUCK TRUSTING AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL LIES.
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Why even bother doing this dance and routine, simply say that China is a good ally of the Islamic world and the destiny of Uighurs does not concern you at all, the truth is that you WANT these accusations against China to be lies. The Uighur militants/terrorists would not carry out violence if everything was fine in the region, such things only happen when a people has been pushed to the limit by the occupying forces, such as in Kashmir or Palestine.

US aid for such elements is irrelevant, as I am sure you will recall US aid for the Afghan resistance to the Soviets, a cause Pakistan supported wholeheartedly.
 
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Chinese cry about some Asians in America being attacked (mostly by blacks) as anti-Asian persecution brought about by Trump's rhetoric, meanwhile they claim all is well in Xinjiang.

In reality, that region is occupied land, the people there are completely different both culturally and racially to the Han Chinese which is why China is indeed conducting a soft genocide of them, not through gas chambers or firing squads, but through Weapons of Mass Migration, of Han men who take up Uighur wives in a coercive manner and the resulting offspring is brought up in a Han culture, and is also racially different.
You can say the same for alaska or even hawaii but you know which people of native are totally living in a different world from mainland America , they only look at China but failed to look at others. And we all know the agenda behind such move. Even Pakistan themselves has separatism problem and they expect others not to point finger at such issue but want to poke into other business. Fortunately, the Pakistanis government at top knows what is minding their own business.

Just like what China minister tells american counterpart during their talk recently. " You are not qualify to talk to me about such issue! "
 
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