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Another thread hijacked by trolls. Sigh. To Indian members, please report all off topic posts and do not reply to them.

You should not do this, bcoz every trolling thread is started by indian...if you report they will be baned...:rofl::rofl::rofl: If you really will do this, i think the indian guys called "Veer" who started these flamming will be baned.
 
You should not do this, bcoz every trolling thread is started by indian...if you report they will be baned...:rofl::rofl::rofl: If you really will do this, i think the indian guys called "Veer" who started these flamming will be baned.

Well, Now i got you, why you troll to much, because your current country location is Japan, Enjoying freedom......
 
Wait,wait for a moment my friend,another interesting page ,how evil the Western thinking is , ah, it sounds like they are a judge in the trial :compared with the United States , here of you is ugly... . I can not help to share :
web site;The Axis of Oil [India and China] by Jehangir Pocha
The Axis of Oil
[India and China]
by Jehangir Pocha
In These Times magazine, February 2005


China and India are locked in an increasingly aggressive wrangle with the United States over the world's most critical economic commodity: oil. More than any other issue, this tussle will shape the economic, environmental and geopolitical future of these three countries, and the world.
Ensuring a steady flow of cheap oil has always been one of the central goals of U.S. foreign and economic policy, and Washington's preeminent position in the world is based in large measure on its ability to do this. But China and India are increasingly competing with the United
States to secure oil exploration rights in Africa, Southeast Asia, Central Asia and Latin America.
India has invested more than $3 billion in global exploration ventures and has said it will continue to spend $3 billion a year on more acquisitions. China, which has already invested about $15 billion in foreign oil fields, is expected to spend lo times more over the next decade.
The motive, says Zheng Hongfei, an energy researcher at the Beijing Institute of Technology, is that "there is just not enough oil in the world" to cover China's and India's growing energy needs.
By 2010 India will have 36 times more cars than it did in 1990. China will have 90 times more, and by 2030 it will have more cars than the United States, according to the Energy Research Institute of Beijing.
More than 4.5 million new vehicles are expected to hit Chinese roads this year alone, a far cry from the time when families saved for months to buy a Flying Pigeon bicycle. The country is now the world's largest oil importer after the United States, guzzling about 6.5 million barrels of oil a day; this figure will double by 2020, says Stephen Roach, chief economist at Morgan Stanley.
India, the world's second-fastest growing economy after China, now consumes about 2.2 million barrels a day-about the same as South Korea-and this is expected to rise to 5.3 million barrels a day by 2025, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.
With global oil production barely 1 million barrels over the global consumption rate of 81 million barrels a day, the surge in demand from China and India could eventually lead global demand to outstrip supply, causing fuel prices to shoot up beyond their recent highs of around $56 a barrel, says Roach.
The impact of this on the global economy, particularly in developing countries that import most of their fuel, would be severe. The International Energy Agency says that for every $1 increase in oil price, the global economy loses $25 billion.
Anxiety over this is already throwing the nervous oil market into further disequilibrium. In September, Michael Rothman, a senior energy analyst at Merrill Lynch, said rising oil prices were not so much a result of the Iraq war or political instability in Venezuela and Sudan, but of extensive "hoarding" by China.
According to Rothman's analysis, China and India are roiling oil markets by creating oil reserves, which are designed to provide the minimum cache the country needs to ride out a crisis, along the lines of the United States' Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR).
With both countries flush with foreign exchange reserves that are threatening to infect their economies with inflation, creating an oil stock seems a sensible solution. But critics say Beijing's and New Delhi's timing is unfortunate, coming just as the global economy seemed to be recovering and the United States was questioning the value of its own reserve.
At 175 million barrels and 25 million barrels respectively, China's and India's estimated oil reserves are just a small fraction of the 700 million barrels held by the United States in its SPR.
China and India, which are both nuclear states, are also taking advantage of the United States' strained ties with Iran, Vietnam and Myanmar by extending these countries military and political support in exchange for energy supplies. And a Washington preoccupied with Iraq, the war on terror and nuclear crises in Iran and North Korea has been unable to checkmate either country as successfully as it did earlier.
For example, U.S. nervousness over China's intentions in Latin America had led it to use its leverage with Panama to impede China's access to the all-important canal connecting the Pacific and Atlantic. But in December, Beijing signed a landmark deal with Venezuela and its neighbor Colombia, under whose terms a pipeline would be constructed linking Venezuelan oil fields to ports along Colombia's Pacific coastline.
This will allow Venezuelan oil to bypass the Panama Canal and create a new and direct route to China.
There are also signs that China is warming to the idea of a Russia-China-India axis, which, in cooperation with Iran, would turn the oil-rich Central Asian region into their domain. This proposal would put in place extensive military agreements and pipeline networks. Originally put forward by Russia's Asia-centric ex-Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov, the proposal seems to be gaining ground with all four nations. China and India have already signed multibillion-dollar gas and energy deals with Russia, which is the largest arms supplier to both countries, and with ex-Soviet Central Asian republics such as Kazakhstan.
What worries Western powers most are China's and India's growing ties with Iran, a country Washington is trying to isolate. Both Beijing and New Delhi have recently signed 25-year gas and oil deals with Iran that are collectively valued at between $150 and $200 billion, and both countries are also deepening their military cooperation with Tehran. Iran and India conducted their first-ever joint naval exercises last September, and India has agreed to modernize Iran's aging Russian-built Kilo-class submarines and MiG fighters.
Both China and India have also tried to thwart Western attempts to curtail Iran's nuclear program, which has largely been built with Russian assistance. In a departure from China's traditional neutrality on international issues that do not involve its own interests, Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing flew to Tehran last November when the United States threatened to haul Iran before the U.N. Security Council and announced that China would oppose any such effort. And in January, the State Department imposed penalties against some of China's largest weapons manufacturers for their support of Iran's ballistic missile program.
The potential volatility from such aggressive oil politics could bring China and India into conflict with Western, Japanese and other regional interests, says Robert Karniol, the Asia-Pacific editor of Jane's Defence Weekly.
"Even if China's oil consumption doubles by 2020, it will still only be half that of the U.S." says Zheng, the energy researcher at Beijing Institute of Technology.
Yet the sheer size of the Asian juggernauts and the prospect that they might indiscriminately swallow global resources scare economic planners.
State-owned Indian and Chinese oil companies are investing heavily in local energy fields, such as the 200,000-square-mile Ordos Basin that stretches across the provinces of Shaanxi, Shanxi, Gansu, Ningxia and Inner Mongolia in northwestern China, and is reported to have oil reserves of up to 6o billion barrels.
To defray the substantial costs of exploration, both China and India are privatizing state-owned oil companies, and using the billions raised to restructure and modernize their operations. Other public sector oil units are also undergoing massive recapitalization and restructuring, including the retrenchment of thousands of workers.
Sharon Hurst, a Beijing-based executive with ConocoPhillips, the largest refiner in the United States, says, "Western investment is helping Chinese oil companies morph into world-class players."
Significantly, both nations are also opening up their domestic oil industries-previously considered strategic and therefore off limits to foreign and private investors. Companies such as ExxonMobil, which owns a 19 percent stake in China's giant Sinopec company, are being wooed not just for their capital but also for their refining and marketing capabilities. For example, ExxonMobil is helping Sinopec establish more than 500 gas stations across the country and build at least two refineries in southern China.
Optimists-mostly people from the corporate world such as Warren Buffet-say such common opportunity will lead to greater cooperation rather than competition between the West and China and India. But pessimists-mostly people from the security establishment-fear that China and India, two energy-hungry giants seeking access to limited world resources, will inevitably clash with the West. U

JEHANGIR POCHA is the Asia correspondent for In These Times.
 
Wait,wait for a moment my friend,another interesting page ,how evil the Western thinking is , ah, it sounds like they are a judge in the trial :compared with the United States , here of you is ugly... . I can not help to share :
web site;The Axis of Oil [India and China] by Jehangir Pocha
The Axis of Oil
[India and China]
by Jehangir Pocha
In These Times magazine, February 2005


China and India are locked in an increasingly aggressive wrangle with the United States over the world's most critical economic commodity: oil. More than any other issue, this tussle will shape the economic, environmental and geopolitical future of these three countries, and the world.
Ensuring a steady flow of cheap oil has always been one of the central goals of U.S. foreign and economic policy, and Washington's preeminent position in the world is based in large measure on its ability to do this. But China and India are increasingly competing with the United

JEHANGIR POCHA is the Asia correspondent for In These Times.

My dear Chinese friend i just leave it to you. You decide on your own, Is it not the Shchinese, grey boy, chinapakistan and communist who hijacks all the thread and post off topic.

I know you want to know about us and the same is here but you should at least advise your Chinese friends to do not derail the thread so we can contribute our energies in something serious.

What's say?????????????
 
Any thread i open is full of 3 chinese peoples comments like about toilet, tank, lca, missiles, poverty, Hiv, guns etc etc. My eyes cooked watching same comments in every each thread by these 3 chinese out of 1.3 billion chinese. Man its boring. What you say? @ all indian guys.
 
Any thread i open is full of 3 chinese peoples comments like about toilet, tank, lca, missiles, poverty, Hiv, guns etc etc. My eyes cooked watching same comments in every each thread by these 3 chinese out of 1.3 billion chinese. Man its boring. What you say? @ all indian guys.

I know Mods are kind here but report them and get them banned, so we can discuss something serious.
 
may be New rule:
Indian can't start a thread about anything of China
Chinese can't start a thread about anything of India
 
My dear Chinese friend i just leave it to you. You decide on your own, Is it not the Shchinese, grey boy, chinapakistan and communist who hijacks all the thread and post off topic.

I know you want to know about us and the same is here but you should at least advise your Chinese friends to do not derail the thread so we can contribute our energies in something serious.

What's say?????????????

Not good,they will say:My dear Indian friend i just post it to you. You read on your own,
 
I know Mods are kind here but report them and get them banned, so we can discuss something serious.

Buddy i dont think mods will take action fast. i have seen schchinese going after india like mad rhino for atleast 1 week. Mods let him abuse india and when indians lost temper then mods banned indians. After whole 1 week when mods satisfied watching indians abused then schchinese was banned. Its just a trick. Schchinese will get banned but not sooner. Indians should not reply to his bs comment or else indians will get banned.
 
May be I can answer
first "shout from the rooftop the worst things that come to my mind about the leaders",even 500 years ago in feudal society,people can talk about leaders of our country too,"People just like water, government like the boat,Water not only can carry a boat but can also overturn it"one emperor of China said.
About religion,my mom believed in Jesus, each Wednesday, Friday and Sunday night they come together to read the Bible, singing hymns, Sunday morning there is a larger gathering in the church of the town.
But they do not know the Catholic, Orthodox faction ,they just simply read the Bible to interpret the inside truth , and know nothing about Pope , for there is no Pope in the Bible.
And in our town there is also a store selling incense, sculpture of buddhism.More interestingly,sculptures about the Immortal of Taoism and the *Buddha of Buddhism are ofen peaceful placed together in one table.

Hello,
You are the 1st Chinese poster who actually writes comments the way normal decent people talk to each other! I appreciate that:cheers:

Now, you didn't actually answer my question to that childish' shchinese'. You spoke about ancient tolerance for religion, but what about today? IIRC, Falun gong has been violently suppressed by Beijing. Were they violent, did they advocate seperationism, etc?
Why is the Government telling Christians that the Pope cannot be a part of your religion, thats for you to decide, not some one in the Government, no?

About freedom of expression, can you really stand in Tienanmen Square and shout out anti Communism slogans? Can you shout out'Freedom for Tibet'? I can stand in the middle of New Delhi and say 'Freedom for Kashmir'. I can start the 'Bring the British Back' political party, if I wanted too.

I heard this dialog in a Bollywood movie' Better to be a skinny stray dog fighting over the next meal, than be a tame pet in the lap of a rich man eating dog biscuits thrown by him.

The fact is undeniable, China is decades ahead of India in infrastructure , development of industries, international importance. Yet are the Chinese people like the elephant who got used to the chain at an early age. When it grows up, it can easily break the chain, but in its mind its always weaker than the chain.
 
We know we have Censorship and we never denied it. And we dont feel any problem on these. All the coutry has their censorship on internet.
So, you are saying a censership in indian preventive measure, and in china is censership???????? What a logic!


Copying and pasting what I wrote earlier, it applies perfectly for you:


"Yet are the Chinese people like the elephant who got used to the chain at an early age. When it grows up, it can easily break the chain, but in its mind its always weaker than the chain."

This is why you have accepted your lack of freedoms. Learn from India, learn from Pakistan the meaning of freedom. Both our nations have it in far greater degrees that China.
 
Copying and pasting what I wrote earlier, it applies perfectly for you:


"Yet are the Chinese people like the elephant who got used to the chain at an early age. When it grows up, it can easily break the chain, but in its mind its always weaker than the chain."

This is why you have accepted your lack of freedoms. Learn from India, learn from Pakistan the meaning of freedom. Both our nations have it in far greater degrees that China.

Our road is "Cross the river by feeling the stones",we don't think that the western system of government suit the China,Just look about the Russia ,poor democratic countries in Africa and the rich Gulf monarchies,and you can see the democracy in Thailand and undemocracy Singapore.Democracy can not bring about prosperity,if one day we think it will make us stronger,we will choose it but now~~
 
Our road is "Cross the river by feeling the stones",we don't think that the western system of government suit the China,Just look about the Russia ,poor democratic countries in Africa and the rich Gulf monarchies,and you can see the democracy in Thailand and undemocracy Singapore.Democracy can not bring about prosperity,if one day we think it will make us stronger,we will choose it but now~~

Thats why you looking to US, that's why you stole technology and by copying it of US...... Didnt hackers tried to take Google's search technology, becasue your search engine BUDU cant match it even ........Thats why your HK is more Prospers then mainland China and that's why Chinese wants to move to HK and US for better life....
 
Lets count how many threads started by Pakistani's to bash indians, And how many threads strated by Indian to bast Chinese and Pakistanis. YOu'll get the answer.

Well i am not here.. to judge who pisses more..!!! No ones coming from angel land..!!! So understand that fact...before making such "i am an angel and the whole world around me is bad" .. crap..!!!

Please dont start such crapy thread, which would turn into another pissing contest..!!!!
 
I don't understand the purpose of this thread.
I see alot of stupid people. Insecure too.
 

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