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We talked about it: for you to teach us how to be donkeys.
why?..
what for?.. donkey option is standard for indians.
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We talked about it: for you to teach us how to be donkeys.
And now YOU, sitting in the heart of Coimbatore, are making judgements about 'ex-Indians'?
Yes...because their heart and soul is turned against India completely. It doesn't need much to see which cases are like that.
Sorry Joe I have seen just what that degenerate hitting a like on your post has typed about my people and my culture and my country (repeatedly, thinking no one's really paying attention to its filthy activity)... @itsanufy has seen the worst of it too as far as this place goes. It would not bear repeating....because Bengali is beautiful language that should never have such words spoken or typed...so casually..and for purpose totally against his claimed faith/identity (that other muslims have even picked upon increasingly now with this character dubiousness and shallowness for sake of shock-jock extremity)...and actually any common sense basis of alignment to good.
Years back I also chanced upon article that said al-baghdadi ordered an "islam for dummies" book to learn to fill up and refresh and reform for his "grand" purpose "better" in some way. Don't know how anecdotal that stuff was, but its stuck in my mind whenever I see awful extremists in general (including for my faith) who forge evil purpose and then fill in and distort things secondarily to it.
I don't follow doc's definition (ex-Indian) on it if that is what you are assuming here....just the terminology. Some have passed the red line I have by such a degree....and there is not much but to leave them adrift exactly where they have chosen to position themselves with scurvy rotten crew and rat infested driftwood.
They can prove their redemption in the outside world if they so desire, I don't really need to see their dull, stagnant wax-on wax-off game here anymore.
His type always ironically and sometimes hilariously says the evil jews/zionists control everything including the internet...and then cant help themselves using said internet for these deep recesses of sentiment purposes (that have now more and more feedback loop study on likely actions down road).
He really is not too bright in the end obviously to do what he does leaving all this evidence (on twitter of all places) thinking hes some anonymous fellow that stays anonymous from all. Thats all his decision..and his consequences to face. He doesnt seem to get what govts (esp in the west, incl down under) are increasingly developing, deploying and monitoring on things like end node analysis...and where they compile that and for what reason later....ever since 9/11. Anyway...thats dark side of things I have been told in very credible terms that I don't want to get into....other than if he gets caught in that dragnet, thats on him.
So its all just waste of time in end getting too much into this stuff and thinking too much about it.... I can call such people ex-Indian and leave it at that.
And I realise that free speech is there, blazing like a beacon in front of us, and free expression is not. Free speech, and a litmus test. It is so sensible, why didn't we think of it earlier?
What is it exactly about Doc's postulates that you do not agree?
No 2 criteria I'm guessing ... I think I added preferably exactly for patriots like you.
Where I find a sanghi foaming at the mouth about my refugee origins, I equally effectively weaponise the same.
In the end it's clear to all who is most invested. Holistically.
Cheers, Doc
LOL where does free speech say it must be followed by automatic listening. People can put up soapbox and scream things as much as they want to. I don't have to elect to be there and listen to it all. I got stuff to do, like fishing for walleye under a bridge I know elsewhere....peace and quiet is great!
Long convo my friend. Bed time for me, we will pick it up later.
You are 100000% about the disgusting sanghi ppl that will attack you about your origins. They are in another category altogether.... but quite pitiful one all the same like ex-Indians.
I've had attacks too by people for being a southie and thus not "proper" Indian in whatever implied way....purity tests are awful if you give them oxygen and recognition in any shape, way and form. ... mostly because they can just keep going...wheres the end?
Its best you just reject idiots for being idiots...cretins for being cretins. Simple policy and when you are downstream enough in life, it really ought to be apparent to anyone decent and iota of brain matter if you ask me.
Don't overwash them otherwise you will lose the essential nutrients.Just spent an hour cleaning my palak and kothmir and curry patta carefully.
How did this get into a discussion on homelands for Indian muslims?
Don't overwash them otherwise you will lose the essential nutrients.
Yes...because their heart and soul is turned against India completely. It doesn't need much to see which cases are like that.
Sorry Joe I have seen just what that degenerate hitting a like on your post has typed about my people and my culture and my country (repeatedly, thinking no one's really paying attention to its filthy activity)... @itsanufy has seen the worst of it too as far as this place goes. It would not bear repeating....because Bengali is beautiful language that should never have such words spoken or typed...so casually..and for purpose totally against his claimed faith/identity (that other muslims have even picked upon increasingly now with this character dubiousness and shallowness for sake of shock-jock extremity)...and actually any common sense basis of alignment to good.
Years back I also chanced upon article that said al-baghdadi ordered an "islam for dummies" book to learn to fill up and refresh and reform for his "grand" purpose "better" in some way. Don't know how anecdotal that stuff was, but its stuck in my mind whenever I see awful extremists in general (including for my faith) who forge evil purpose and then fill in and distort things secondarily to it.
I don't follow doc's definition (ex-Indian) on it if that is what you are assuming here....just the terminology. Some have passed the red line I have by such a degree....and there is not much but to leave them adrift exactly where they have chosen to position themselves with scurvy rotten crew and rat infested driftwood.
They can prove their redemption in the outside world if they so desire, I don't really need to see their dull, stagnant wax-on wax-off game here anymore.
His type always ironically and sometimes hilariously says the evil jews/zionists control everything including the internet...and then cant help themselves using said internet for these deep recesses of sentiment purposes (that have now more and more feedback loop study on likely actions down road).
He really is not too bright in the end obviously to do what he does leaving all this evidence (on twitter of all places) thinking hes some anonymous fellow that stays anonymous from all. Thats all his decision..and his consequences to face. He doesnt seem to get what govts (esp in the west, incl down under) are increasingly developing, deploying and monitoring on things like end node analysis...and where they compile that and for what reason later....ever since 9/11. Anyway...thats dark side of things I have been told in very credible terms that I don't want to get into....other than if he gets caught in that dragnet, thats on him.
So its all just waste of time in end getting too much into this stuff and thinking too much about it.... I can call such people ex-Indian and leave it at that.
LOL where does free speech say it must be followed by automatic listening. People can put up soapbox and scream things as much as they want to. I don't have to elect to be there and listen to it all. I got stuff to do, like fishing for walleye under a bridge I know elsewhere....peace and quiet is great!
Long convo my friend. Bed time for me, we will pick it up later.
You are 100000% about the disgusting sanghi ppl that will attack you about your origins. They are in another category altogether.... but quite pitiful one all the same like ex-Indians.
I've had attacks too by people for being a southie and thus not "proper" Indian in whatever implied way....purity tests are awful if you give them oxygen and recognition in any shape, way and form. ... mostly because they can just keep going...wheres the end?
Its best you just reject idiots for being idiots...cretins for being cretins. Simple policy and when you are downstream enough in life, it really ought to be apparent to anyone decent and iota of brain matter if you ask me.
VeggiesDid you mean the veggies, or Muslim Indians?
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A kid named Tipu will get bullied in school
Really? The last Tipu I knew not only dominated his school, and college, and post-graduate programme, besides playing cricket for his college and universities (two of them, separately, one after the other), but went on to join the RN (not the RIN), transfer to the Fleet Air Arm, and inducted the Alize into Squadron 310, then commanded a destroyer squadron, a frigate squadron, then INS Vikrani, then the Eastern Fleet, and held the DNI position at a moment of great insecurity, sinking more tonnage than the rest of the Navy put together, and retired as FOC-in-C Eastern Command.
Maybe people who want to do well should be naming themselves Tipu.
I have a client who named his new born son Narendra Modi 2 months ago, so what your flinging at the Muslims can be flug right back; to suggest someone's name would change towards the worst is the height of stupidity and absurd on all levels. As I said before your Sanghis are now throwing darts randomly and claiming a win on fudge up analysis.
That won't change the reality of who Tipu Sultan was.
Muslims can make it to CRPF but even at jawan level not easy
But yes, it is not a visible part of the army.The regiment mostly consists of volunteers from the state of Jammu & Kashmir. 50% of the regiment's troops are Muslims while the rest represent other ethnic groups from the state.The Jammu and Kahmir Light Infantry is considered to be the most decorated regiment of the Indian army having won 1 Param Veer Chakra and 3 Ashok Chakra.
What in your view will it take Owaisi to forge s pan India party that enjoys the mandate of all (or most) Indian Muslims?
Is it possible?
If it is, do you realise the power your community would wield at the center?
Islam being political or not is not the question or the problem. The problem is Islamist supremacism. That is what Islamism means.
This supremacism leads to unequal laws in society not just between different genders but also unequal laws being to people of different faiths. Essentially, it is a regression from modernism which is moving towards recognizing and treating the smallest minority as an individual, to recognizing people on the basis of their faiths and giving other faiths lesser rights.
Therefore, combating Islamism and getting people of Dharmic faiths to better recognize the difference between Muslims and Islamists is the challenge in India.
That said, as Saudi Arabia, the leader of the Muslim, has started modernizing, it would have a positive effect not just on Muslim psyche but also non-Muslim perception of Muslims.
Giving more rights to women and ultimately equal rights to all genders is the goal.
Therefore, combating Islamism and getting people of Dharmic faiths to better recognize the difference between Muslims and Islamists is the challenge in India.
Giving more rights to women and ultimately equal rights to all genders is the goal.
Please read the rest of the article.Maneka Gandhi, minister of women and child development, recently gave a call for prenuptial agreements to be recognised in India. According to her, if the terms for division of property, guardianship of children and spousal support are settled prior to marriage, divorces will be less acrimonious and disputes could be resolved expeditiously.
In the discussions that followed, as to whether such a step will, in fact, safeguard the rights of women, there was no mention that this concept is already rooted in Islamic law of marriage since the 7th century. The nikahnama, an Islamic marriage contract is, in fact, a prenuptial agreement that outlines the rights and responsibilities of the parties and provides for conditions to be included for safeguarding a woman’s rights upon marriage.
One wonders why a reference to the Islamic law was not made either by the minister or other experts. Married Muslim women, we find, are often on a higher and more secure footing than their counterparts from other religions. In fact, as a Christian marrying a Muslim, I chose to marry under the Muslim personal law, even over the seemingly modern Special Marriage Act, 1954, to better secure my economic rights. My mehr was a house in my name and my nikahnama includes necessary clauses to safeguard my and my children’s rights. My husband’s family members were witness to this document, which is registered and enforceable by law.
Your ideas about the Taliban are just as wrong as the Tabligh.
The whole Muslim world is experiencing increases religiosity, it is not only Indian Muslims.
Some places, it is Tabligh, and other places like Pakistan, it is political and social change and increased conservatism.
Give people an alternative and let them choose. The more popular idea will catch on.
Of course, I will deny. Whatever someone says, literacy rates, female participation etc have increased. I see many young Muslim women carving out there space and their families supporting them which was probably not possible in the previous generation, you may say "Hijab is still forced blah blah" but stats have improved.
The thing to worry about is that relative speed is slow but to say we're going to be the next Taliban/Al-Qaeda would be a gross exaggeration.
Wait.
So you mean to say, subtly, that Nasser is BETTER than Tipu?
A Soviet secularist pawn who led Egypt to disastrous defeats, destroyed Arab unity for good is better than one of the first original fighters against the British imperialists?
What in your view will it take Owaisi to forge s pan India party that enjoys the mandate of all (or most) Indian Muslims?
Is it possible?
If it is, do you realise the power your community would wield at the center?
No. He probably killed dogs.Tipu was an anti hindu ruler and hence he died like a dog. Period
Lol. Sach kadwa hota hain.No. He probably killed dogs.
Sanghis like you would have been roasted alive in his reign. There would have been none of this nonsense.
He died like a Lion.
No. He probably killed dogs.
Sanghis like you would have been roasted alive in his reign. There would have been none of this nonsense.
He died like a Lion.
A kid named Tipu will get bullied in school
Really? The last Tipu I knew not only dominated his school, and college, and post-graduate programme, besides playing cricket for his college and universities (two of them, separately, one after the other), but went on to join the RN (not the RIN), transfer to the Fleet Air Arm, and inducted the Alize into Squadron 310, then commanded a destroyer squadron, a frigate squadron, then INS Vikrani, then the Eastern Fleet, and held the DNI position at a moment of great insecurity, sinking more tonnage than the rest of the Navy put together, and retired as FOC-in-C Eastern Command.
Maybe people who want to do well should be naming themselves Tipu.
In the previous post I quoted above posts but did not reply so I will do so below.
I don't know vegav's intention but I understand what he alludes to, that it might no longer be possible that a boy is named Tipu and he goes through his young years untroubled ( bullying in school, mild discrimination etc ).
As Joe said, there would have been many Tipus in earlier decades.