A heaven for South Asian medical students

[Michael Corleone]

Are you seriously judging the quality of Medical education by your experience in a third rate scam coaching center? Seriously dude these coaching centers aren't even legal & don't have any credentials or accreditation from any authority, coaching business is absolutely illegal in BD. And 99 of 100 who teach there is mostly current students or by former students who still haven't landed a good enough job. Gees.

As I have pointed it out before, a person's skill in a foreign language or even in his mother tounge(not everyone is god gifted good with words or teaching abilities;teaching people how to perform a diagnosis & doing it yourself is two different matter, and not everyone is good at both) isn't a scale to judge his professional skill or his eligibility as a professional in his/her field. Get out of those colonial mindset for goodness sake. I meet professionals from various countries, many(may say more than many) have an English skill equal to a eight grader. But they are nothing but absolute best in their job. Go meet some German, Japanese or Chinese doctors/Engineers, see how many words they speak with you in English. In Germany it's literally 'no German, no helthcare ' as you would be very very lucky to find a doctor who speaks anything other than German, & land an appointment. I experienced it first hand during my first year in Germany.

Yep I agree. I'm not aware of how good it's in the medical school itself. I should've mentioned that on the earlier post to avoid misunderstandings.
But in medicine from how much ever experience I have gather on the first year... practical skill and knowledge is more important than by hearting facts only for the sake of forgetting it after a month or two.
But I think for someone who isn't aligned with political parties .... from abroad for ex like me. It's difficult to know whereabouts of how and what to do to get admission in govt run medical college which on average have a higher value or looked upon highly compared to private institutions.

Chances are you have been provided wrong guidance about medical coaching.

The medical admission tests for govt. colleges are quite competitive. The acceptance rate is even less than 1%. The foreign students are studying there through quota seats and I believe they wouldn't be able to crack the admission tests if the quotas are withdrawn.

I would like to think differently....
Govt college admissions on average are given more to children of political figures...

Ex. Former/ maybe current health ministers son?
The MP was a orthopedic I guess
His son was wack in studies but got into medical school and even managed to get senior doctor like salary from starting because of his dads influence.... I believe the dude had some problem with patients and he was talked about in the media a few years back.
Same goes for BUET... not in top 100 like it used to be. Now in top 1000.
And dhaka uni from top 100 to top 400 to now not even ranked in top 1000...
Political influence in higher education institutions have hindered the quality of studies.

But that doesn't make it a fact, that all students studying there are below average. Where there is will. There is way.... and are world class standard medical professionals.

 

[Jackdaws]

Good to read positive news about Bangladesh. Well done.

 

[Species]

I would like to think differently....
Govt college admissions on average are given more to children of political figures...

Ex. Former/ maybe current health ministers son?
The MP was a orthopedic I guess
His son was wack in studies but got into medical school and even managed to get senior doctor like salary from starting because of his dads influence.... I believe the dude had some problem with patients and he was talked about in the media a few years back.

Usually, children from political figures study abroad, particularly in the West, or, if in Bangladesh, the top most private universities like North South.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Speaking to the Dhaka Tribune, several foreign students said the quality of medical studies in Bangladesh is similar to that of India, both in terms of syllabi, books, teaching methods, and duration of study.

That I can see with the number of Medical tourists visiting India from Bangladesh.
The quality of medical education do not depend on books and syllabus. It depends on the number of beds available in the hospital. Room for practice and specialized teaching staffs.

The OP states like buying gobi from local vegetable shop. Same quality at cheap price.

@Nilgiri

 

[Species]

Same goes for BUET... not in top 100 like it used to be. Now in top 1000.
And dhaka uni from top 100 to top 400 to now not even ranked in top 1000...
Political influence in higher education institutions have hindered the quality of studies.

But that doesn't make it a fact, that all students studying there are below average. Where there is will. There is way.... and are world class standard medical professionals.

You have some misconceptions. Students don't get admitted for their political influence but through merit. They join politics after getting into the universities. It's actually the case with residential halls, you would get a seat at the residential halls only if you join the ruling political party. But if you have accommodation elsewhere you don't need a seat at the residential halls and hence, can avoid the politics. I have a cousin studying in BUET and he's not joined any politics since he has an accommodation in Dhaka.

 

[TopCat]

For international students I mean

For govt college and universities they are free for foreign students too(it was like that when i was a student). For private they should be same or very close to local students.

I would like to think differently....
Govt college admissions on average are given more to children of political figures...

Ex. Former/ maybe current health ministers son?
The MP was a orthopedic I guess
His son was wack in studies but got into medical school and even managed to get senior doctor like salary from starting because of his dads influence.... I believe the dude had some problem with patients and he was talked about in the media a few years back.
Same goes for BUET... not in top 100 like it used to be. Now in top 1000.
And dhaka uni from top 100 to top 400 to now not even ranked in top 1000...
Political influence in higher education institutions have hindered the quality of studies.

But that doesn't make it a fact, that all students studying there are below average. Where there is will. There is way.... and are world class standard medical professionals.

Admission tests in universities and medical colleges are very fair and no political influence works. You are misinformed.

That I can see with the number of Medical tourists visiting India from Bangladesh.
The quality of medical education do not depend on books and syllabus. It depends on the number of beds available in the hospital. Room for practice and specialized teaching staffs.

The OP states like buying gobi from local vegetable shop. Same quality at cheap price.

@Nilgiri

Middle class people completely avoid overcrowded free government hospitals. Most of them visit private hospitals which are bit expensive for some of the treatment. Some choose to go to India. Besides for terminal diseases people always try to get a second opinion and go to India which turn out to be fruitless.

There is another big hurdle, as the medical practitioner in BD don't allow foreign consultants in Bangladesh which made it difficult to run specialized hospitals. I dont think India has that drawback on top of they have bigger pool of specialized doctors.

 

[bd_4_ever]

I would like to think differently....
Govt college admissions on average are given more to children of political figures...

Ex. Former/ maybe current health ministers son?
The MP was a orthopedic I guess
His son was wack in studies but got into medical school and even managed to get senior doctor like salary from starting because of his dads influence.... I believe the dude had some problem with patients and he was talked about in the media a few years back.
Same goes for BUET... not in top 100 like it used to be. Now in top 1000.
And dhaka uni from top 100 to top 400 to now not even ranked in top 1000...
Political influence in higher education institutions have hindered the quality of studies.

But that doesn't make it a fact, that all students studying there are below average. Where there is will. There is way.... and are world class standard medical professionals.

Not really. Many student in DU come from "mofosshol" or rural areas for whom it is a dream to study there. Lakhs of people attend admission test for DU and many talented ones dont even make it. Politics come into picture after you get admitted and have started your classes. You need "boro bhais" around if you are to stay safe/neutral during your study years and get rooms/halls. That is how it is.

1 example. A very good friend of mine who was a classmate throughout school.. did his BBA from DU (not the IBA BBA). Before he graduated he got into Marico and worked there for few months. He left it to join MetLife Insurance and worked for a year there. Then he left again to join City Bank as Management Trainee Officer. In July, he gets promoted to Senior Officer after the program conclusion.

If you see his track record as a DU student, he has worked in 3 top-ranked companies in Bangladesh.. 2 of them being MNCs.. and he is just my age. Hence, politics wont get you into DU or BUET or institutions as such. Your quality will and that will reflect in your career.

Tbf in all honesty. I never really wanted to go to medico in the first place. I'm aware of coaching centers and their ripoff tactics in bd from childhood... but stubborn parents man.

Fair enough and your misinformation can be excused. But my suggestion is to be careful about how quickly you pass judgement on something. Be sure of what you are saying else it gives a wrong impression. You have lived in Middle East and now in Europe, so have I.. and that too for much longer and in more countries than you. Trust me, not everything in BD needs to be complained about. I hope you take this positively.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

You have lived in Middle East and now in Europe, so have I.. and that too for much longer and in more countries than you. Trust me, not everything in BD needs to be complained about.

Really Bhai?

 

[Michael Corleone]

Usually, children from political figures study abroad, particularly in the West, or, if in Bangladesh, the top most private universities like North South.

North South doesn't offer engineering or medicine afaik

Not really. Many student in DU come from "mofosshol" or rural areas for whom it is a dream to study there. Lakhs of people attend admission test for DU and many talented ones dont even make it. Politics come into picture after you get admitted and have started your classes. You need "boro bhais" around if you are to stay safe/neutral during your study years and get rooms/halls. That is how it is.

1 example. A very good friend of mine who was a classmate throughout school.. did his BBA from DU (not the IBA BBA). Before he graduated he got into Marico and worked there for few months. He left it to join MetLife Insurance and worked for a year there. Then he left again to join City Bank as Management Trainee Officer. In July, he gets promoted to Senior Officer after the program conclusion.

If you see his track record as a DU student, he has worked in 3 top-ranked companies in Bangladesh.. 2 of them being MNCs.. and he is just my age. Hence, politics wont get you into DU or BUET or institutions as such. Your quality will and that will reflect in your career.



Fair enough and your misinformation can be excused. But my suggestion is to be careful about how quickly you pass judgement on something. Be sure of what you are saying else it gives a wrong impression. You have lived in Middle East and now in Europe, so have I.. and that too for much longer and in more countries than you. Trust me, not everything in BD needs to be complained about. I hope you take this positively.

Ofc. No offense take. Youre a senior, you might have more experience than me. I don't intend to badmouth bd. I put forward constructive criticism and also appreciate when were doing something good in a field.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

The foreign students are studying there through quota seats and I believe they wouldn't be able to crack the admission tests if the quotas are withdrawn.

From my personal experience, even though foreign students admits in the govt. medical college seat by quota system,they are actually top students of their respective countries.Bangladeshi medical authority select them with rigorous selection criterion as quota for foreign students in govt. medical college is pretty limited( 75 out of 3,500).

You have some misconceptions. Students don't get admitted for their political influence but through merit. They join politics after getting into the universities. It's actually the case with residential halls, you would get a seat at the residential halls only if you join the ruling political party. But if you have accommodation elsewhere you don't need a seat at the residential halls and hence, can avoid the politics. I have a cousin studying in BUET and he's not joined any politics since he has an accommodation in Dhaka.

He came to Bangladesh from Kuwait for a brief time and left it with a lot of misconception and bitterness.

Most of them are nominal members.95 percent are not active.I have seen a lot of student, renting houses nearby thus avoid joining student political party entirely. And student politics now a days, not the things that used to be earlier times.Most of the campus are quiet now with no session jam.

 

[kris]

For govt college and universities they are free for foreign students too(it was like that when i was a student). For private they should be same or very close to local students.

Why is your govt paying for foreign students??

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Why is your govt paying for foreign students??

Why not? If they can bear the cost of several lakh university student at any given year from Bangladesh then what it matter if that include few thousands foreign one? Most of these students are from neighboring countries.You can consider this equivalent of foreign scholarship.

How much does it cost to study medicine in Bangladesh?

Govt. medical is free.Private Medical take 30k to 45k US dollar according to OP.

 

[TopCat]

Why is your govt paying for foreign students??

These are mostly various scholarship program extended through foreign ministry.

 

[kris]

Why not? If they can bear the cost of several lakh university student at any given year from Bangladesh then what it matter if that include few thousands foreign one? Most of these students are from neighboring countries.You can consider this equivalent of foreign scholarship.


Govt. medical is free.Private Medical take 30k to 45k US dollar according to OP.

No country gives such scholarship for mbbs..
Are u sure that Bangladesh gives it for free?
Hard to believe for me

 

[TopCat]

No country gives such scholarship for mbbs..
Are u sure that Bangladesh gives it for free?
Hard to believe for me

Yes free.