A Girl who challenged India water problem.....

[Hermione]

Even if this idea was brought forward by an Indian I would have supported this idea.
I dont understand why ppl always luv critising an idea rather than appreciating its innovativeness.
Fine this might not be Koenig's idea...but still she brought it forward and made it famous.The idea is good and now its to our government to utilise it.
And why should one just trash an idea ??and why should it be nipped in the bud???
Is there anything which proves it wont work???
I dont undestand the sabre rattling.
Its an innovative idea and I dont care who came up with this idea..this womand gets the support of many.

As Kloitra's post already proved, there are many many such substitutes and a lot of them Indian one already available, eg., there are hand cart with lots of water pitchers on them. All these are common everyday scenes in rural India, so this was by no means such an out of box thinking. The village women/folks also know this. It is really surprising that anyone would think such ideas have not been around or used by Indian villagers.

If someone was to come and tell me they have developed one more variety of night lamp, am I supposed to go gaga over it?

 

[Dem!god]

@Dem!god

Excellent thread and the news is a refreshing one that it can't be expressed in words. The first thing came to my mind that why no patriotic Indian thought about this simple, effortless but effective to the maximum method. But I am equally disappointed by some surprising arguments presented here.Is it really necessary to see west vs India in everything? I guess not. This thread is not about the glee and exuberence to see foreigner helping the condemned poor Indians. This is all about an effort to relieve the women from the daunting task of carrying such a heavy load under the scorching heat of West India. I highly doubt if there was any sense of profit making business was working in the culprit westerners mind who unlikely would see a first class business opportunity in one of the poorest provinces of India. lets reinvent some common sense and keep our blind prejudices to go off a holiday for few days so that we all can enjoy such exhilarating news to it's full extent.

True sirji.....
agree with your words.......
every thing in this world is not done with keeping profit in mind....
there is still some humanity left in this world....
this is a very simple idea.......but any way ...it doesn't matter from where this idea is coming.....we need to implement this for our poor woman.....

 

[Dubious]

 

[Alpha1]

Salute to the girl

 

[Levina]

As Kloitra's post already proved, there are many many such substitutes and a lot of them Indian one already available, eg., there are hand cart with lots of water pitchers on them. All these are common everyday scenes in rural India, so this was by no means such an out of box thinking. The village women/folks also know this. It is really surprising that anyone would think such ideas have not been around or used by Indian villagers.

If someone was to come and tell me they have developed one more variety of night lamp, am I supposed to go gaga over it?

Any idea wins hearts when its reliable ,practical and durable.Thats exactly the reason Koenig won the "Grand challenges Canada".
We are not talking about low quality plastic pitchers placed on a hand cart here.How many ppl would actually have a hand cart in the first place??
This product stands out because it is a single water wheel which can be pushed without much effort and because it can carry about 50gallons of water..
Shunning such simple ideas and going gaga over something more complicated is what critics usually do.

@Dem!god

Excellent thread and the news is such a refreshing one that it can't be expressed in words. The first thing came to my mind that why no patriotic Indian thought about this simple, effortless but effective to the maximum method. But I am equally disappointed by some surprising arguments presented here.Is it really necessary to see west vs India in everything? I guess not. This thread is not about the glee and exuberence to see foreigner helping the condemned poor Indians. This is all about an effort to relieve the women from the daunting task of carrying such a heavy load under the scorching heat of West India. I highly doubt if there was any sense of profit making business was working in the culprit westerners mind who unlikely would see a first class business opportunity in one of the poorest provinces of India. lets reinvent some common sense and keep our blind prejudices to go off a holiday for few days so that we all can enjoy such exhilarating news to it's full extent.

Your post makes so much sense.

 

[Hermione]

it can carry about 50gallons of water..

It carries 50 liters and not 50 gallons. Low quality pitchers placed on cart have been doing the same job just as efficiently at a fraction of the cost. Plus it is capable of carrying 50 gallons. Somehow I do not think Canadians understand Indian poverty or challenges or ingenuity. A person who can afford this single contraption for $25, can well afford to buy a cart for that amount. Even better a bicycle. It is faster too and has other uses.

A design need not be complicated for critics to go gaga over, but at least let it stir the imagination a bit.

I highly doubt if there was any sense of profit making business was working in the culprit westerners mind who unlikely would see a first class business opportunity in one of the poorest provinces of India.

Surely they can place their product in the market place. If it takes off and people really find it advantageous that will reflect in their sales figures. But people talking of govt buying it in bulk and supplying to the villagers are talking out of some other motive. As already shown this is not an ingenious idea and the govt of India should not be wasting tax payers money on funding these.

 

[Kloitra]

Any idea wins hearts when its reliable ,practical and durable.Thats exactly the reason Koenig won the "Grand challenges Canada".
We are not talking about low quality plastic pitchers placed on a hand cart here.How many ppl would actually have a hand cart in the first place??
This product stands out because it is a single water wheel which can be pushed without much effort and because it can carry about 50gallons of water..
Shunning such simple ideas and going gaga over something more complicated is what critics usually do.

Reliable/practical/durable? We will find out - hopefully.

I do not like the idea which - as much innovative it can seem - doesn't seem to be reproducible by your local mechanic.
If its a success, all is well. But I still prefer local solutions, like a simple trolley, bicycle and hand carts.

I have no idea why people do not like any-one-can-make-can-repair-can-handle solutions.

Kudos to the girl and the competition organisers that they though about poor around the world. And shame on the respective govt to ignore such problems. But still I would prefer the local jugad, even if it seems to be made out of "low quality materials" and isn't able to win any "Grand challenges".

Shunning simple innovations of needy around the world and going gaga over something more shiny I can't do, call me a critic.

@Dem!god

Excellent thread and the news is such a refreshing one that it can't be expressed in words. The first thing came to my mind that why no patriotic Indian thought about this simple, effortless but effective to the maximum method. But I am equally disappointed by some surprising arguments presented here.Is it really necessary to see west vs India in everything? I guess not. This thread is not about the glee and exuberence to see foreigner helping the condemned poor Indians. This is all about an effort to relieve the women from the daunting task of carrying such a heavy load under the scorching heat of West India. I highly doubt if there was any sense of profit making business was working in the culprit westerners mind who unlikely would see a first class business opportunity in one of the poorest provinces of India. lets reinvent some common sense and keep our blind prejudices to go off a holiday for few days so that we all can enjoy such exhilarating news to it's full extent.

There are Indian solutions, carrying some containers on a trolley is cheep and equally effective. And there is nothing west vs India in my argument. All I said was that similar and simpler designs are already available. Even Indians have devised simple methods, you have to look around. It is you who is prejudiced that doesn't looks at the innovations already existing.

 

[scorpionx]

There are Indian solutions, carrying some containers on a trolley is cheep and equally effective. And there is nothing west vs India in my argument. All I said was that similar and simpler designs are already available. Even Indians have devised simple methods, you have to look around. It is you who is prejudiced that doesn't looks at the innovations already existing.

Oh!! Hold your gun amigo!! No need to go Vietnam on me because I was hardly thinking about the pictures you posted while writing my post. Yes, everybody knew there are simpler ways available to carry water in third world countries like India,Africa or South America.And if you had read carefully the news @levina posted you would have noticed that it was the villagers of that particular region who spoke up about the convenience about rolling water in spite of carrying it on their head. So nobody is saying the the foreigners invented it.This is ridiculous argument.

Yes, Indians were already using simpler ways of carrying water but who thought it to introduce it in the harsh terrain of Rajasthan and Gujraat where climate is equally hostile to it's poor dwellers? You, me or anybody else here? No.You didn't. So instead of hurling guns on others in internet forums without any reason give a person or institution his/her credit when it is due. No point in suffering useless jingoism here.

Surely they can place their product in the market place. If it takes off and people really find it advantageous that will reflect in their sales figures. But people talking of govt buying it in bulk and supplying to the villagers are talking out of some other motive. As already shown this is not an ingenious idea and the govt of India should not be wasting tax payers money on funding these.

I would rather bother about the opinion of those poor men and women of Western part of our country and what they think about it. We are not even eligible to talk on their behalf.

 

[Kloitra]

Oh!! Hold your gun amigo!! No need to go Vietnam on me because I was hardly thinking about the pictures you posted while writing my post. Yes, everybody knew there are simpler ways available to carry water in third world countries like India,Africa or South America.And if you had read carefully the news @levina posted you would have noticed that it was the villagers of that particular region who spoke up about the convenience about rolling water in spite of carrying it on their head. So nobody is saying the the foreigners invented it.This is ridiculous argument.

Yes, Indians were already using simpler ways of carrying water but who thought it to introduce it in the harsh terrain of Rajasthan and Gujraat where climate is equally hostile to it's poor dwellers? You, me or anybody else here? No.You didn't. So instead of hurling guns on others in internet forums without any reason give a person or institution his/her credit when it is due. No point in suffering useless jingoism here.

My mistake, thought that was directed to me.

And if you notice the pics I posted, one of them depicted a similar roller:

Yes, the second one is the same water in a rolling cylinder design, with an addition of a carrier.

I said it before, I appreciate the gesture of those competition organisers. I just thought of letting the forum members know that similar/cheaper/local alternatives exist. And if someone capable enough had taken the initiative, such products would already been in hands of all those western Indian living in harsh terrains.

 

[Hermione]

I would rather bother about the opinion of those poor men and women of Western part of our country and what they think about it. We are not even eligible to talk on their behalf.

Okay, let us see how acceptable the end-users find them.

 

[Manvantaratruti]

End of the day the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

How many of these rolling drums are sold v/s a couple of plastic pots on a bicycle.

Reminds me of the time when Eureka Forbes vacuum cleaners was first introduced in India. My dad went out and brought one, saw it used in for one whole week before my mom decided that it was a stupid buy and asked our kaam wali bai to resume her jadu pocha duties.

25$ is 1,500 Rs. and a good sturdy Hero cycle sells for 2,500 Rs. which can also be repaired in every village at a low cost. How many can repair a fancy rolling drum ? Maintenance is everything.

 

[scorpionx]

How many of these rolling drums are sold v/s a couple of plastic pots on a bicycle.

Such a waste of money,Isn't? Now try to ride your cycle on the desert of Rajsthan wearing traditional Rajasthani dresses.You will know what is the difference.

 

[Manvantaratruti]

Such a waste of money,Isn't? Now try to ride your cycle on the desert of Rajsthan wearing traditional Rajasthani dresses.You will know what is the difference.

No point in going round in circles. I do not expect this "invention" to revolutionize anything in Rajesthan or even gain wide acceptance.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Hardly innovative. They sell these at home improvement stores to flatten your lawn when you seed grass.
You fill it with water to add weight. No designing needed.

 

[Levina]

It carries 50 liters and not 50 gallons.

My bad...i was sleepy when i made that post last nite.

Low quality pitchers placed on cart have been doing the same job just as efficiently at a fraction of the cost. Plus it is capable of carrying 50 gallons. Somehow I do not think Canadians understand Indian poverty or challenges or ingenuity. A person who can afford this single contraption for $25, can well afford to buy a cart for that amount. Even better a bicycle. It is faster too and has other uses.

A design need not be complicated for critics to go gaga over, but at least let it stir the imagination a bit.

hmmmm from what I know on an average women in India have to walk atleast 2.5kms to bring back atleast 20 litres of water everyday.Now the jerry cans are commonly used in developing countries to carry water collected from far-away locations.I am assuming that would be taken on cycles on carts....because the cans weigh a hefty 55 pounds.Imagine!!!
Now when the same weight is rolled,the effort to push it very less.And thats where this design scores.The design is very simple.
And this one product is enough to carry 50litres ( )...wow!! isnt that brilliant??
How many pitchers will a woman carry on her head??? or how many pitchers can be hung on a cycle?? the poor quality pitchers would in any case break/leak sooner or later.This product might last longer.And as I said once this hits the market many Indian companies might produce it at a lower cost.

Kudos to the girl and the competition organisers that they though about poor around the world.

Yes kudos to them.

And shame on the respective govt to ignore such problems.

True,if we had an efficient government then by now ppl in these arid places would have had pipes with running water and electricity in their homes.But the government clings on ignominiously.

But still I would prefer the local jugad, even if it seems to be made out of "low quality materials" and isn't able to win any "Grand challenges

I am as much as an Indian as you are.I would also prefer a jugad. But what I gleaned was this idea was brought forward after talks with the locals.May be this was created by someone else,but atleast Koenig brought the idea forward.And more than appreciating Koenig i think would shower accolades on the person whoever created it originally.But what matters now is that it will be produced in large scale.If the idea is a hit then the millions of women wont have to trudge 2.5kms everyday.

Such a waste of money,Isn't? Now try to ride your cycle on the desert of Rajsthan wearing traditional Rajasthani dresses.You will know what is the difference.

That guy manvantratruti is a low life troll.He luvs flaming the threads.He'll stubbornly refuse every logic put forward and then beat us with his ludicrous comments.
Dont even bang your head against that wall....JMHO

Hardly innovative. They sell these at home improvement stores to flatten your lawn when you seed grass.
You fill it with water to add weight. No designing needed.

Apples keep falling every day...but it took one Isaac newton to come up with gravitational theory...



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