A Curse

[Azeem_Ahmed]

Iam a simple man living in a society which is becoming modern day by day. I have given the title as A CURSE so that I can have discussion on a biasness based on gender.this time it is not about women,its about other half of population -Males.
Today in country like India which is getting modern day by day by adopting western culture and adopting women friendly policies,The issue of women empowerment is everywhere in social media . Observing all these I can say that now it is becoming common to say that women can do anything that a man can do-This statement itself shows lack knowledge of people about the limits of both man and woman. They say that females can outplay males in any field.Females should be given same salary as males are given .
My simple question is why not have cricket match between Indian men team and Indian women team and then result will tell who is better. Why not have any sports event between these and let the result decide who is better. Lets talk about other fields -
worlds best businessman is male ,I can say top-10 are males , top-10 Iq people have only 1 female . Top chef - A Male. Best Scientists are males.
But if I say these things to women she will say -"WOMEN GIVE BIRTH TO THESE LEGENDS".
OH means legends are made by birth.This statement only shows lack debating skills of women.
I accept this fact but i have another fact that any persons body's 70-90% DNA consist of father's DNA and not mothers. Can i conclude from this fact that legends are made by men's cells only and not by women's cells?I will not Iam not that dumb. I just want to say that we should accept on how nature has made us and should do things which are beyond our reach.
I am not misogynist and I respect them too.but saying women is equal to men is wrong .The correct statement can be All are human beings and nature has given what needs to be done make human life to sustain in this planet. Women have their own abilities and man have their own.
I would say there should be common fess structure.common education system,common sports facilities for both of them and let the performance decide their fees.
I know that Countries like India need women empowerment but it does not means that saying other half is weak will make you strong.
Today india has so many facilities given to women such that if they shout in public place and point to any random man that he molested her , there can serious charges on him.
In Pakistan also this song of making males weak psychologically by saying women empowerment in their ears loudly again again is being sung by some authorities whose main aim is to earn money and make profits out of such issues.
Here world's best in each field and judge my thought
Sports
1-Cristiano ronaldo/lionel messi -football.
2.Chess-Viswanathan Anand/MAgnus Carlson
3.Cricket -Many are their SA chin ,Waseem ,Ponting,Warne many are there ..
Business
BIll gates,Amancia Ortega,warren buffet.etc etc
Iq-Stephen Hawking,Alber einstein ,only 1 women in top 10 that too is chess player
best painter- A male-Leonadro DA vinci,Vincent van etc etc
best in literature are also males, best chef is male.
Now what is left .. After seeing this I say women empowerment is needed ,but men are not weak or a substance that society and authorities will igonre and will not make policies which do not benefit them.
So I AM ASKING QUESTION IS BEING A MAN IS A CURSE NOWDAYS?

You raised wonderful and amazing things regarding comparison of male and female ability....
I will say that women should stay in homes except those who have some sort of problem of earning the money as she has no male to earn the money for her such women should come forward otherwise they should stay in homes and male be made responsible for earning her livelihood...
I do not know we are shaping modernize the society to empower the women or shaping a new dilapidated society to empower them... As we have more empowered the women our family system has changed and new kind of issues have come before us....

 

[Jackdaws]

So men should stop modeling because women do a better job and are paid significantly more than men. Lol.

 

[frankenstein-2]

This thread is the most idiotic I have seen on PDF as of now, and I have seen quite a few idiotic threads....

The three morons who have vented their frustration at women's equality need to wake up to the fact that empowering women is the greatest achievement of the twentieth century. If women had the same opportunities as men have had throughout history, the world would be a very different place today.

As for @Aasimkhan ...so you have done some rather scientific analysis and concluded that women lagging behind in certain areas shows that they are only good for producing babies and managing the house? Let's see...

I can think of one community of 1.7 billion which is way behind Western women in every area of achievement, including almost all the men in that community. Guess which one it is? So kindly apply your great understanding to your own issues and arrive at some conclusions. I am sure you will see a great Zionist conspiracy there as well.

Pathetic human.

A feminist spotted.
Who said I am frustrated over this women empowerment think,You have such a narrow mind that you cannot see the actual problem.
You are saying western women are powerful-I think you moron and idiot .Go read Bible and see what how badly they treat women in older times.
I just wanted to say that saying men are weak do not make you strong.
In west women are given same opportunity now and still they are nowhere in the competition with men.
Can you even think a match between Serena williams and Rafael Nadal.
Or a chess competition betweenn judith polgar and Magnus Carlson.
Even in scientific field also number of women is very less.
These are examples of western society that you are talking about.Society is made by equal partnership and not by fake competition.
You are also uneducated to say that women of this part of world should follow western norms for women empowerment.
What about our culture.In our culture women have been equal rights ,but morons like you do not see these norms , you will just promote your western culture by saying it is women friendly.

So men should stop modeling because women do a better job and are paid significantly more than men. Lol.

Who said that women should stop getting educated or should stop getting sports facilities.You are an extremist , you can think of extreme situations only/
If in modeling they do better then accordingly they should be paid.
And in modeling then no one will say equal fees for men --@Jackdaws.

 

[Jackdaws]

A feminist spotted.
Who said I am frustrated over this women empowerment think,You have such a narrow mind that you cannot see the actual problem.
You are saying western women are powerful-I think you moron and idiot .Go read Bible and see what how badly they treat women in older times.
I just wanted to say that saying men are weak do not make you strong.
In west women are given same opportunity now and still they are nowhere in the competition with men.
Can you even think a match between Serena williams and Rafael Nadal.
Or a chess competition betweenn judith polgar and Magnus Carlson.
Even in scientific field also number of women is very less.
These are examples of western society that you are talking about.Society is made by equal partnership and not by fake competition.
You are also uneducated to say that women of this part of world should follow western norms for women empowerment.
What about our culture.In our culture women have been equal rights ,but morons like you do not see these norms , you will just promote your western culture by saying it is women friendly.


Who said that women should stop getting educated or should stop getting sports facilities.You are an extremist , you can think of extreme situations only/
If in modeling they do better then accordingly they should be paid.
And in modeling then no one will say equal fees for men --@Jackdaws.

Happy to called a feminist - take it as a compliment. LOL, sure I am the one who is ignorant and uneducated.

 

[Manama]

then why these feminists are demanding equal fees?
And iam not talking only about Sports,what about other fields?

Whats wrong with equal pay? You do the job you get paid.

 

[El Sidd]

This thread is a perfect example of the oppression women face in the sub continent.
Just because men do not want to give proper rights to women they have created this imaginary dragon 'The Feminist' who everyone likes to slay and somehow that proves your 'Masculinity'.

This thread is started by a person whose name is Frankenstein - Oh the Irony !!

 

[frankenstein-2]

This thread is a perfect example of the oppression women face in the sub continent.
Just because men do not want to give proper rights to women they have created this imaginary dragon 'The Feminist' who everyone likes to slay and somehow that proves your 'Masculinity'.

This thread is started by a person whose name is Frankenstein - Oh the Irony !!

brother i never said not to give equal rights to women .I am saying about the growing issue of boasting about being a woman and then mocking men and also demanding equal fees without giving the level of effort and output that others are giving.

 

[Manama]

A "Man" wouldn't even have made this thread LOL, the insecurity is pretty clear. If you are so triggered and feel threatened by someone boasting about their rights maybe you should go and suck onto a pacifier until you are man enough to talk about anyone's rights.

 

[frankenstein-2]

A "Man" wouldn't even have made this thread LOL, the insecurity is pretty clear. If you are so triggered and feel threatened by someone boasting about their rights maybe you should go and suck onto a pacifier until you are man enough to talk about anyone's rights.

So a Man can only suffer according to you . There should be voice raised about this issue because it will hurt ego,which people like you have much more than needed.
I think you not so informed all the things going on in india on women empowerment.Still feminists call men idiot so that can feel happy about themselves.

 

[Manama]

So a Man can only suffer according to you . There should be voice raised about this issue because it will hurt ego,which people like you have much more than needed.
I think you not so informed all the things going on in india on women empowerment.Still feminists call men idiot so that can feel happy about themselves.

Lmao how are men suffering because of women empowerment? Are you so insecure that the fact that someone of the opposite gender is making more money than you, makes you piss your pants?
You are the one with ego issues, dying ego to be more specific that the only masculinity you receive is by superior to someone. Don't even talk about india and "men suffering" while you can't even control or give proper safety to women being gang raped and massacred. The world revolves around more issues than your cuckiness. Gtfo kid

 

[El Sidd]

brother i never said not to give equal rights to women .I am saying about the growing issue of boasting about being a woman and then mocking men and also demanding equal fees without giving the level of effort and output that others are giving.

I think the issue will be finished when every single woman start boasting and demanding their rights. Just because right now the activists are few that does not mean you can ignore their POV.

To me they are not boasting they are just giving you an opinion which you should listen to if you need help in understanding the plight of women in the sub continent.

How can you solve a problem if you do not even want to listen to them?

 

[frankenstein-2]

I think the issue will be finished when every single woman start boasting and demanding their rights. Just because right now the activists are few that does not mean you can ignore their POV.

To me they are not boasting they are just giving you an opinion which you should listen to if you need help in understanding the plight of women in the sub continent.

How can you solve a problem if you do not even want to listen to them?

These woman right boasting activists should boast about education for women rather suppressing men who are working hard for their families.
Here i am talking about punjab province -where our government has given free education to all girls from 1-12.I support them,But I will never support activists which make woman to adopt western (animal) culture which includes-drug addiction ,late night parties,not good behavior for parents. Woman should not be made a tool to become Leader.

 

[El Sidd]

These woman right boasting activists should boast about education for women rather suppressing men who are working hard for their families.
Here i am talking about punjab province -where our government has given free education to all girls from 1-12.I support them,But I will never support activists which make woman to adopt western (animal) culture which includes-drug addiction ,late night parties,not good behavior for parents. Woman should be made a tool to become Leader.

Education should be compulsory for everyone so do not drag politics in this.

I think they are advocating that women should decide their own on how to dress and how to spend their time.

And your last sentence is quite interesting.......

So in history when women were married off to form alliances it was not a tool?
Even today dowry is used as a tool to form alliance and do not get me started on inheritance.

You see its not that easy.

The only problem here is people do not give them enough rights so that once they become powerful enough a force, they will unsettle the power infrastructure the male dominated society has built for itself.

People did not have trouble using woman up till now, why all of a sudden now?

I consider myself a staunch Muslim Feminist so for you i would be kryptonite.

 

[frankenstein-2]

Education should be compulsory for everyone so do not drag politics in this.

I think they are advocating that women should decide their own on how to dress and how to spend their time.

And your last sentence is quite interesting.......

So in history when women were married off to form alliances it was not a tool?
Even today dowry is used as a tool to form alliance and do not get me started on inheritance.

You see its not that easy.

The only problem here is people do not give them enough rights so that once they become powerful enough a force, they will unsettle the power infrastructure the male dominated society has built for itself.

People did not have trouble using woman up till now, why all of a sudden now?

I consider myself a staunch Muslim Feminist so for you i would be kryptonite.

My last sentence had a typing error.I corrected it.
You are right woman should be given freedom about their time spending but it does not mean that to throw the culture in dustbin.
India is known fr its respect for woman in ancient india ,where we worship them as a god.Now in modern era as soon as this western culture has entered in the region all sorts of trouble has came with them.
I am neither support male dominant society nor support blind uneducated feminism.I am just worried if such conditions will prevail for a longer period of time -India will become a country with lost culture and women will be a just tool for a particular section of society.

 

[El Sidd]

My last sentence had a typing error.I corrected it.
You are right woman should be given freedom about their time spending but it does not mean that to throw the culture in dustbin.
India is known fr its respect for woman in ancient india ,where we worship them as a god.Now in modern era as soon as this western culture has entered in the region all sorts of trouble has came with them.
I am neither support male dominant society nor support blind uneducated feminism.I am just worried if such conditions will prevail for a longer period of time -India will become a country with lost culture and women will be a just tool for a particular section of society.

yes its the same rule everywhere

some say islam is in danger
some say culture is in danger
some say race is in danger
some say economics is in danger

same fear instilling tool to continue to oppress them.

Even by your own Indian history. If you can survive Muslim and Aryan invasions and India continues to 'thrive' and survive. Why do you think it will cease to exist if you empower women.

Let the women decide themselves. they are as human as you are and can think for themselves. they are more likely to put culture and religion in perspective when deciding what to do.