A Chinese's view of China-Bangladesh relations.

[TOTUU]

Please do not write the four names side by side. Bangladesh remains an LDC, Vietnam is quite a developing country, Turkey was developing but it may go behind because of its present govt policies, and China is a rapidly developing country.

we are all developing country ，although there are differences in the rate of development .
China's per capita gdp in 2006 was US$2,000, Only 14 years earlier than Bangladesh . Bangladesh will catch up quickly.

 

[TOTUU]

BD remaining neutral will be considered an act of war by India for the highlighted reason you mentioned. India will not allow BD neutrality.

This is the reality ，Whether Bangladesh is neutral or not is judged by India, not by the definition of neutrality itself .
This is the same as the current international order, a country's behaviour is right or wrong is judged and adjudicated by the West .

 

[Jobless Jack]

This is the reality ，Whether Bangladesh is neutral or not is judged by India, not by the definition of neutrality itself .
This is the same as the current international order, a country's behaviour is right or wrong is judged and adjudicated by the West .

Finally . Tell it to the Bangladeshi members . One idiot lectured me about how BD is not a banana republic and is not reliant on foreign powers for... Aheeem. Tall tales about how BD will remain neutral during India china conflict. Use the West for economic gain . Use the Chinese for weapons and a means to restrict Indian influence on BD. Unfortunetly such statements are far from the reality that BD faces today. Reality is that the only reason BD is allowed to exist is because :

1) India could not allow Pakistan to maintain control of a territory that is so close to the Indian Achilles hill that is the NE. This is the only reason India manufactured the 1971' crisis intervened in 1971 to create BD.

2) India is fully determined to maintain control over BD via economics ,diplomacy, 5th columnists and of course military . I find it hilarious how BD members go on about their development as if its a sharp sword. Reality is that BD is being fed carrots in large numbers and being taken for a fools ride by the Indians.

3) If the India Unions existence is threatened ( i.e. Chinese threat in the NE) : India will not hesitate to go to war with BD to achieve its aim ( logistics transport of Indian military to support war at NE).

4) End of the Day, instead of talking of tall tales about strong development and dreaming of becoming Switzerland. BD people must wake up from their carrot induced slumber and get off that high horse. Realize that BD can only be: With India or against India. Either way, the future of the country is not too bright.

5) Go against India and you will be invaded by India and you will become the next Afghanistan. Your so called development will be destroyed by the Indians . Western sanctions will follow at the minimal.

6) Fight alongside India in Indo -China war, BD will become India's ally that means BD will make an enemy of China. This means the Chinese will target you as well as India., you will face worse fate than the Indian's in Indian territory. Do you think Indian army will defend BD people and infrastructure? Indians are only interested in BD's transport infrastructure, which they will defend. But that's the only thing about BD they will defend. The rest they will leave to the mercy of Chinese planes and missiles. BD will be bombed back to Stone age. Can BD stand up to Chinese missiles , with what exactly?

So the biggest question here is : What will BD do ? Will BD choose Chinese missiles or Indian Bullets ?

Either way, Future is not bright for Bangladesh.

 

[bluesky]

In the event of a war with China . BD remaining neutral will be considered an act of war by India for the highlighted reason you mentioned. India will not allow BD neutrality because the entire Indian control over the NE can be Choked simply by BD not allowing IA to use BD territory for logistics in war. This means that India will lose the ENTIRE NE because BD neutrality. China wants BD to be neutral precisely because of the scenario you mentioned .

IF India loses NE, the central govt will be considered weak . This means the southern states already agitated by BJP, will officially come out of the closet and declare separation from the Indian union. So India military will transport over BD. By force if necessary. The entire survival of their union is dependent on this ! Expect war.

Unless the Awami league gives( has already given?) the rights of transportation to the Indian armed forces ..
This is also why India does not want BD to a) have good ties in with Pakistan and China b) have strong military.

You are very right in all your assessments. However, if BAL is in power and it gives the IA troops access through BD, it will cause our nationalist forces within and out of the armed forces to oppose it. I wonder if BAL can sustain such domestic oppositions. Note that the Indian govt weakened by the prospect of war will lose influence on the BD political forces.

China will be watching this trespassing and a possibility exists it will interfere in the matter directly or by using its assets in BD. It will certainly watch if BD troops are fighting against IA troops or just giving up the land for IA troops to pass. This will determine the future of BD itself.

Note that whatever we see on the map, the IA troops will have to use the Jamuna Bridge or enter the Meghna at the BoB and go to Agartala by river networks. So, it is not that IA troops will capture our north because it will bring no benefits to the IA.

 

[Saiful Islam]

5) Go against India and you will be invaded by India and you will become the next Afghanistan. Your so called development will be destroyed by the Indians . Western sanctions will follow at the minimal.

Impractical you are fighting a war in Kashmir, your have insurgencies to deal with, I don't think it's a walk in the park. To come and just invade BD and make it "Afghanistan" is a wet bedsheet dream to say the least.

We are not pushing for war, but to take slack off the bullying that India is guilty of, to avoid entrapment whether economical or political. Hence the neutral stance would be the preferred method, but you can never take over BD or you would have done it by now.

Hello it has been 50 years?

Our geography is a blessing infact, we are overrunning many neighbouring states, means more Intel and support.

 

[Jobless Jack]

You are very right in all your assessments. However, if BAL is in power and it gives the IA troops access through BD, it will cause our nationalist forces within and out of the armed forces to oppose it. I wonder if BAL can sustain such domestic oppositions. Note that the Indian govt weakened by the prospect of war will lose influence on the BD political forces.

China will be watching this trespassing and a possibility exists it will interfere in the matter directly or by using its assets in BD. It will certainly watch if BD troops are fighting against IA troops or just giving up the land for IA troops to pass. This will determine the future of BD itself.

Note that whatever we see on the map, the IA troops will have to use the Jamuna Bridge or enter the Meghna at the BoB and go to Agartala by river networks. So, it is not that IA troops will capture our north because it will bring no benefits to the IA.

My opinions are neutral. I am not supporting any particular party here. In my opinion:

1) Yes. You are correct. If BAL co-operates with India, there will be military coup against BAL. Even at the first sign of such co-operation showing itself in broad daylight. A coup will take place.

2) Any resistance against India will be unconventional warfare: similar in style to what the Taliban is waging against the NATO forces in Afghanistan.

3) IA will move into BD proper as their capture of North Bengal will trigger insurgency committed by the Muslims of Bengal. This means IA will definitely have to move into BD proper to stop the attacks.

4) I don't think it will be nationalistic forces that will resist Indian aggression against BD. Bangladeshi nationalism is dead or dying. Slowly people are waking up as to why BD was created by the Awami league with Indian support. Today BD nationalism means Awami league. Awami league is seen as the puppet of India, in my humble opinion. Bangladesh will go back to muslim league once the awami league is removed from office. The Muslim league will once again rise in BD. Once Muslim league re rises in BD, expect the movement to reach and spread to central and North India. It will also spread into Pakistan. This means India will also declare war on Pakistan.

5) this conflict will spread all over the south asia. It will not stay limited to BD - india china conflict. BD indian and pakistani nationalism will be dead among the muslim population in south asia. Its place will be taken by the Muslim league . It will be the Muslim league who leads the resistance against Hinduvta India. It will not be people who identify as nationalistic force. No I dont think the muslim league will follow wahhabi ideology. The whole world knows who supported Wahhabism. The same people who supports Hinduvta today!

6) Other than Logistical and Intelligence support , I doubt the Chinese will be able to provide any other assistance to either BD or Pakistan. .

 

[bluesky]

we are all developing country ，although there are differences in the rate of development .
China's per capita gdp in 2006 was US$2,000, Only 14 years earlier than Bangladesh . Bangladesh will catch up quickly.

Please read the Internet text below that states that China built its own nuclear power stations in the 1990s. How about BD? It is many decades behind. So, GDP figures are not the only yardstick. It is more about the technological advancement in which BD remains a backwater.

"The most numerous reactor type in China is the CPR-1000, with 22 units operational. This reactor type is a Chinese development of the French 900 MWe three cooling loop design imported in the 1990s, with most of the components now built in China. Intellectual property rights are retained by Areva, which affects CPR-1000 overseas sales potential".

 

[SpaceMan18]

Please read the Internet text below that states that China built its own nuclear power stations in the 1990s. How about BD? It is many decades behind. So, GDP figures are not the only yardstick. It is more about the technological advancement in which BD remains a backwater.

"The most numerous reactor type in China is the CPR-1000, with 22 units operational. This reactor type is a Chinese development of the French 900 MWe three cooling loop design imported in the 1990s, with most of the components now built in China. Intellectual property rights are retained by Areva, which affects CPR-1000 overseas sales potential".

I like how BD thinks it can flank the key thing that will help develop Bangladesh aka industrialization and R&D/Better education.

Like BD has nothing going for it and it's a smaller nation with less resources it should automatically start to make it's own tech but NOPE it clearly doesn't how sad