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I disagree. US has enormous natural resources and impressive human resource base amplified by hard work ethic. US is going to still matter for a long, long time. What will change is it's shadow will shrink. US will learn to live in reduced space and contain it's arrogance.

Reduced space? You sure about that one? The US economy is growing at an impressive clip, and a military that's undergoing a several decade long modernization. This military will project power globally, backed up with a economy that consists of an advanced S&T base, and huge resources.

China on the other hand is surrounded by countries such as India and Japan. Japan is developing its own anti-access/area denial capabilities to deny China's ability to maneuver, and India is set to become the worlds 3rd largest economy within the next decade. India's power will only grow in direct confrontation with China. Whose space is truly reduced? An considering China's impending demographic decline, China's ability to counter multiple countries only becomes tougher.
 
Ask the Chinese members here about USA. I think you will find them in agreement with "never under estimate your enemy". It is this very prudent thinking that has got them where they are.


America has got a lot of life left in it. It will remain the superpower. But another kid on the block ~ China will surpass it as the "hyperpower".
Military power is not everything. USSR still had the largest stockpile of most lethal nukes when it disintegrated
 
Reduced space? You sure about that one? The US economy is growing at an impressive clip, and a military that's undergoing a several decade long modernization. This military will project power globally, backed up with a economy that consists of an advanced S&T base, and huge resources.

China on the other hand is surrounded by countries such as India and Japan. Japan is developing its own anti-access/area denial capabilities to deny China's ability to maneuver, and India is set to become the worlds 3rd largest economy within the next decade. India's power will only grow in direct confrontation with China. Whose space is truly reduced? An considering China's impending demographic decline, China's ability to counter multiple countries only becomes tougher.
lol India will challenge China?

India is far behind China in military, and in industry.

India doesn't stand a chance against China.

The only thing India has equal with China is almost population.
 
Ask the Chinese members here about USA. I think you will find them in agreement with "never under estimate your enemy". It is this very prudent thinking that has got them where they are.


America has got a lot of life left in it. It will remain the superpower. But another kid on the block ~ China will surpass it as the "hyperpower".

That "hyperpower" is not even outpacing the US economy anymore. Definitely not at the clip it needs to become this supposed "hyperpower." I sense a bit of wishful thinking here.
 
Seeing how the internal problem USA have right now...

USA is so desperate to harvest money from other country, especially China as it have accumulate a lot of money around the world for years.

After China, I don't know which region can be harvested?

I feel USA is like a Dracula.

USA always promote human rights and democracy. Many times I saw a lot of country have it, but denied by USA. Is making people prosperous, satisfied, happy and safe, isn't a kind of human rights and democracy??

I strongly believe, because of a huge accumulated internal problem, because USA unable to harvest other regions, to save themselves, USA will suicidally invade China in desperate.

And the reason for invasion, will be a funny and minor one, as along as war happened and it can harvest from China.

The thing that is not yet happened right now, is because USA is too busy in middle East. But once the problem solved, USA will attack China.

I guess from what I saw, USA is preparing for it by closing to Japan and India. I guess, it's ww3.

If USA is able to be defeated, the world will became peace and prosperous for a very long time. No more Dracula.

USA is a wicked country, pretending to be Savior and hero.
 
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lol India will challenge China?

India is far behind China in military, and in industry.

India doesn't stand a chance against China.

The only thing India has equal with China is almost population.

India is set to become the 3rd largest economy here soon enough, and a population that is set to surpass China within 5 years. That means more money for defense and R&D. They may be behind China for now, but there power is only going to grow and that gap will narrow, especially if the India/US relationship grows.

To underestimate India is stupid, really stupid. India's populations will reach 1.7 billion mid century, while China's will be in terminal decline. It's obvious that capability gap will narrow.
 
India is set to become the 3rd largest economy here soon enough, and a population that is set to surpass China within 5 years. That means more money for defense and R&D. They may be behind China for now, but there power is only going to grow and that gap will narrow, especially if the India/US relationship grows.

To underestimate India is stupid, really stupid. India's populations will reach 1.7 billion mid century, while China's will be in terminal decline. It's obvious that capability gap will narrow.
lol don't try to be more Indian than the Indians themselves. :D

India is not that important in the world.

Right now India has a smaller population than China's.

Don't talk about hypothetical situations.
 
The author resorts to simplistic meta-narrative, which is long dead as the deep chasms and internal problems in the US political, cultural and economic life are being exposed by the (mostly) alternative media that grabs much more viewership and follow up than the traditional corporate US media. Under these conditions, it is quite difficult (and increasingly a losing battle) for the US elite state apparatus and its soft power arms such as media and entertainment to continue to promote a false sense of US moral integrity or supremacy.

US at the moment, from a much higher economic and political conditions, is similar to India in terms of its self-denial of deteriorating existence and what remains is a yearning and an almost religious belief in a self-crafted notion of soft power ideals that they assume the world keeps watching in awe. Nothing can be far from such truth. The US is loathed by more people than before just as India is loathed in its own neighborhood. There is no soft power involved in both cases. In fact, India is simply a laboratory case to study failed governance.

If there an iota of soft power, that's because the glamorous that the US material and military power has generated over the decades, which usually lasts longer than the material ground itself. Mostly, the illusion of soft power lasts longer than the material grounds that have generated that soft power. This is probably what we are observing today. The US is losing material ground on daily basis and it has already begun to translate into a loss of ground in information making and story telling. Thus, the article in the OP would make sense even as near as ten years ago, but no more.

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Whether the result of the handy job of Mr. Putin or not, but, Mr. Trump has already injected the virus into the heart of US media/information/cultural power. In fact, the level of moral decline in US media, entertainment, politics and military happened to be worse than the most radical anti-US theorists could imagine. I do not think no practical positive energy can come from this.

As for China, again, it is a broader reality than the OP's narrow dualist mind-set which should have been cast aside wince George Bush announced "Mission Accomplished." The fossilized ideas brought up by the author suggests that it is (incredibly so) possible for one to survive on archaic ideas and it can find a place on a US state media. This, by itself, is a sign of intellectual decline.

The US media should be able to come up with fresher ideas because the lines purported repeatedly cannot create the desired effect, but, in fact, increases the repulsiveness of US/Western ideas.

China knew from the very beginning that ideas were built on solid material grounds. Hence, it worked hard, at the cost of many negative externalities and painful public policies, to establish such formidable material ground on which state and national power is built. Hence, China's stability and the expansion of its ideas. As @Cybernetics brilliantly put, this is the difference between the stability of the US and instability of weak countries. Not because US ideas are better, but because US material ground is firmer.

Tunisia experienced a revolution because a policewomen slapped a vendor. Just several weeks ago, US police killed a man begging on his knees for his life. This also explains why it is relatively easier to destabilize countries like India as they stand on very weak material grounds and the ideas they purport have no resonance in the citizens' life.

The NYT author blames China for being historical, dialectical, materialist and pragmatic. Values that his own government has already lost to a large degree. The US is still a formidable enemy. But it has long lost the ability to make another USSR out of China. They better work not to repeat the UK experience.
 
lol India will challenge China?

India is far behind China in military, and in industry.

India doesn't stand a chance against China.

The only thing India has equal with China is almost population.
In American dreams, yes india will not only challenge rather replace China but it is just a dream.
 
Reduced space? You sure about that one? The US economy is growing at an impressive clip, and a military that's undergoing a several decade long modernization. This military will project power globally, backed up with a economy that consists of an advanced S&T base, and huge resources.

China on the other hand is surrounded by countries such as India and Japan. Japan is developing its own anti-access/area denial capabilities to deny China's ability to maneuver, and India is set to become the worlds 3rd largest economy within the next decade. India's power will only grow in direct confrontation with China. Whose space is truly reduced? An considering China's impending demographic decline, China's ability to counter multiple countries only becomes tougher.
If you flick back I noted the incredible natural and human resource base of USA and it's culture of work ethic. These were the legs which articulated USA in becoming a superpower and they will continue to stand. So I was not being dismissive of USA. However as much a realist I was being there I also know that China will overtake USA ~ yes for sure their are hurdles as you pointed out but much as USA overtook UK in 1890s the same is happening with China today. As we move forward over the next few decades this will begin manifesting itself like US economic power began to overshadow Britain with WW2 being the cap.

As regards India you are placing too much store on that ocean of disparity. What you see of the Indian's in USA is the condensed distillate of 1.3 billion people. What you don't know is vast majority of them are at levels lower then Black Africa. The caveat being at least that demographic bring physical pedigree to the table. In the instance of aboriginal India it zero up there and zero down there. India is not going anywhere. Bollywood fantasies notwithstanding.

As regards Japan and the other epicanthics over the long term they will fall in line with China - one way or other as much as Europeans did with US hegemony. Yes I know you had a fight or two with the Germans. But economics will line up everybody in the immediate vicinity of China as the their economic gravity starts pulling everybody in.
 
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India is set to become the 3rd largest economy here soon enough, and a population that is set to surpass China within 5 years. That means more money for defense and R&D. They may be behind China for now, but there power is only going to grow and that gap will narrow, especially if the India/US relationship grows.

To underestimate India is stupid, really stupid. India's populations will reach 1.7 billion mid century, while China's will be in terminal decline. It's obvious that capability gap will narrow.

I knew you were SP12.

Please correct your flags and be proud of who you are.
 
lol don't try to be more Indian than the Indians themselves. :D

India is not that important in the world.

Right now India has a smaller population than China's.

Don't talk about hypothetical situations.

Underestimate India at your peril. Considering the demographic trends of China and India, it's clear that gap will close.
 
Military power is not everything.
Beyond the military power USA continues to have one of the largest industrial, scientific, economic pool in the world and built in spare latency. That is not about to evapourate away anytime soon.

I knew you were SP12.
Who is that. Please don't tell me I sniff a Ganga here?
 
Beyond the military power USA continues to have one of the largest industrial, scientific, economic pool in the world and built in spare latency. That is not about to evapourate away anytime soon.

Who is that. Please don't tell me I sniff a Ganga here?
True USA will be a power to be reckoned with. But USA will not be like it was in the year 2001 when it was a unipolar world.

I knew you were SP12.

Please correct your flags and be proud of who you are.
lol as if an American would care about Pakistan or Asian politics or Middle Eastern politics.
 
Beyond the military power USA continues to have one of the largest industrial, scientific, economic pool in the world and built in spare latency. That is not about to evapourate away anytime soon.

Who is that. Please don't tell me I sniff a Ganga here?

SP12 is Superpower 2012. Who do you think claims to be superpower 2012?
 

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