A Chance PN Encounter with Indian Coast Guards.....Tea offered as usual.

[KrimesKaster]

That sounds quite violent; why should the name 'Dalit' be so offensive to you? More after I hear from you, on this narrow point.

I am sick of people yapping about this weird "You are Indian" quip.. So, I shut down those who take that tangent and go off the main point. Apparently, ad-hominom was never taught to most of these creatures who do that. Best way is to insult them and set them on ignore. I typically also Google names of people to see what they mean, mostly they are weird ones. This one means "broken" in Indian context. So, why not throw it on him?

 

[.King.]

Hey retard...so after ur failed attempt of ur "simple simulation"...u also don't seem to know how a debate works. The burden of proof is on u...to provide us with the data of ur "simple simulation". U r the one coming here making grand claims...not me.

As for "they do not model India Pakistan"...this again shows how clueless u really are. Constantly pulling stuff from ur behind. I can smell ur BS all the way here.

Id advise you to read the simulations done. Will open your mind up.

No analyst actually considers pakistani tactical nukes as an effectve deterrence, as no number of tactical nukes can stop an armoured thrust. Each tactical nuke takes out 10-20 tanks, and kills 50k-300k civillians wherever it is used.

They are just there to keep pak citizenry happy, useless in actual conflict. Thats why all major nuclear powers have dispensed with the idea of using tactical nukes against nuclear powers.

 

[Dalit]

I am sick of people yapping about this weird "You are Indian" quip.. So, I shut down those who take that tangent and go off the main point. Apparently, ad-hominom was never taught to most of these creatures who do that. Best way is to insult them and set them on ignore. I typically also Google names of people to see what they mean, mostly they are weird ones. This one means "broken" in Indian context. So, why not throw it on him?

You are just a troll. Someone who cannot provide any sources and goes on to troll about yields and nukes. You don't have any actual facts whatsoever. You rely on computer simulations that are not even based on India Pak war as you have admitted.

This is not entirely your fault. The moderaters on this forum are at fault. They allow such gibberish to go on. Try such nonsense on any other forum and the moderators will immediately intervene. This forum has become a hotspot for foreigners to come in and trample on Pakistan.

 

[KrimesKaster]

Hey retard...so after ur failed attempt of ur "simple simulation"...u also don't seem to know how a debate works. The burden of proof is on u...to provide us with the data of ur "simple simulation". U r the one coming here making grand claims...not me.

As for "they do not model India Pakistan"...this again shows how clueless u really are. Constantly pulling stuff from ur behind. I can smell ur BS all the way here.

Well, I have always heard India Pakistan war will kill everyone in India from Pakistani but I have NEVER seen on shred of evidence to this. Care to show for that first? Care to show your estimates of what is the maximum number of deaths Pakistan is capable of causing in India? I doubt there is one single half way decent research done on it.

 

[SIPRA]

Above all, ignore agents provocateur.

He himself is the one.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I am sick of people yapping about this weird "You are Indian" quip.. So, I shut down those who take that tangent and go off the main point. Apparently, ad-hominom was never taught to most of these creatures who do that. Best way is to insult them and set them on ignore. I typically also Google names of people to see what they mean, mostly they are weird ones. This one means "broken" in Indian context. So, why not throw it on him?

Not quite. Briefly:

1. The name refers to the underdogs in the Indian caste system; any Indian who tells you that is extinct is mendacious. However, you are more likely to be told that it is being eradicated rapidly - equally wrong. This is the real challenge that Indian society faces, and not the artificial one of religious rivalry.
2. The actual meaning is 'squeezed', or oppressed, or downtrodden.
3. The person using this ID is one of the most toxic Pakistani members, one whose hatred of Indians, India, and anything Indian is completely out of control.
4. My own reaction is that I would ignore this individual, but have a great deal of tolerance for the general phenomenon, and sympathy for those who are still ill-treated by the upper caste Hindu and that intermediate group known as OBCs, Other Backward Classes, that is constituted of several prominent social groupings, whom I shall not name here.

I hope this helps.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Id advise you to read the simulations done. Will open your mind up.

No analyst actually considers pakistani tactical nukes as an effectve deterrence, as no number of tactical nukes can stop an armoured thrust. Each tactical nuke takes out 10-20 tanks, and kills 50k-300k civillians wherever it is used.

They are just there to keep pak citizenry happy, useless in actual conflict. Thats why all major nuclear powers have dispensed with the idea of using tactical nukes against nuclear powers.

I'd advise u to learn a thing or two before u jump into a debate backing up ur idiot friend...acting as a second idiot. The studies which I have actually read(unlike what's being demonstrated here by u and Krimekaster) are about a limited nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan...
...and no those are not about tactical nuclear weapons(like Nasr) but actual strategic nuclear weapons(possesed by both). We(KrimeKaster and I) were discussing an all out nuclear exchange(not the limited tactical nuclear weapons one). So not only did u not read the studies I'm referring to...but u also didn't bother to read just a few posts up to even know what the discussion is about.

 

[Joe Shearer]

He himself is the one.

In a sense, you are right. That is why I have invited him to discuss this elsewhere, on an independent thread.

 

[Dalit]

Well, I have always heard India Pakistan war will kill everyone in India from Pakistani but I have NEVER seen on shred of evidence to this. Care to show for that first? Care to show your estimates of what is the maximum number of deaths Pakistan is capable of causing in India? I doubt there is one single half way decent research done on it.

You got no clue. You are just rambling on and relying on fake simulations. Pakistan has never claimed it will annihilate anyone. You are just rambling like a fool.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Hey retard...so after ur failed attempt of ur "simple simulation"...u also don't seem to know how a debate works. The burden of proof is on u...to provide us with the data of ur "simple simulation". U r the one coming here making grand claims...not me.

As for "they do not model India Pakistan"...this again shows how clueless u really are. Constantly pulling stuff from ur behind. I can smell ur BS all the way here.

Calm down. Avoid the strong epithets. We can still discuss this without falling off the boat.

 

[Dalit]

Not quite. Briefly:

1. The name refers to the underdogs in the Indian caste system; any Indian who tells you that is extinct is mendacious. However, you are more likely to be told that it is being eradicated rapidly - equally wrong. This is the real challenge that Indian society faces, and not the artificial one of religious rivalry.
2. The actual meaning is 'squeezed', or oppressed, or downtrodden.
3. The person using this ID is one of the most toxic Pakistani members, one whose hatred of Indians, India, and anything Indian is completely out of control.
4. My own reaction is that I would ignore this individual, but have a great deal of tolerance for the general phenomenon, and sympathy for those who are still ill-treated by the upper caste Hindu and that intermediate group known as OBCs, Other Backward Classes, that is constituted of several prominent social groupings, whom I shall not name here.

I hope this helps.

You Indians are trolls. At least most of you. You come here cuss our nation and undermine everything we hold dear. You got a few powerful moderators on this forum on your side. You have the audacity to point finger at Pakistan when your own country is being lead by a genocidal Muslim hating maniac.

 

[KrimesKaster]

I cannot bring myself to contemplate this Doomsday scenario, but your numbers seem to be right. The thought of wiping out Pakistan by deliberate design is horrifying; I have too many friends and too much regard for some elements within it, elements that closely resemble our own social features, to think casually about it.

It is true that the sheer strain of coping with their unrelieved hatred is difficult to withstand. Whether that should lead to nuclear war is another matter. I do not think so.

This response is without checking and verifying the numbers you have used.

Perhaps we can discuss this on a separate thread.

Look, every time there is a debate, you see Pakistani folks go running like this : We will kill every Indian with our nukes, yeee-haaaw! So why not for once try to see if this is even feasible? I doubt that. And btw, I have ASSUMED that Pakistan has every damn advantage in this situation including first attack. What will happen if India decides to go first? Pakistan does not have a robust third leg of nuclear deterrence.

Hey retard...so after ur failed attempt of ur "simple simulation"...u also don't seem to know how a debate works. The burden of proof is on u...to provide us with the data of ur "simple simulation". U r the one coming here making grand claims...not me.

As for "they do not model India Pakistan"...this again shows how clueless u really are. Constantly pulling stuff from ur behind. I can smell ur BS all the way here.

Lets face it you low-born piece of shit, you cannot even build a very simple Monte Carlo simulation for finding value of pi if your life depended upon it. So leave the maths to those who know it and go **** your cousin like most of you do. Taa!

 

[Joe Shearer]

You Indians are trolls. You come here cuss our nation amd undermine everything we hold dear. You got a few powerful moderators on this forum on your side.

1. I am an Indian, and proud to be one, and am not a troll. I think you know that, and in your usual, out-of-control fit of constant fury, are saying this quite obviously false thing.
2. I have never, ever cursed your nation or your people in general.
3. I have EVERYONE who is a decent human being on my side.

Can you dare to say the same?

 

[Paro_Peagus]

Do you seriously advocate mutually assured destruction? Every single study so far has suggested that any exchange of nuclear weapons will lead to a nuclear winter, and that millions more will die during the aftermath, due to injuries received, or due to illnesses contracted due to exposure to radiation during the bombings.

In your dreams.

US detonated over 900+ Nuclear devices in nevada. Did that make las Vegas radioactive?

You should come out of the bubble old man.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Look, every time there is a debate, you see Pakistani folks go running like this : We will kill every Indian with our nukes, yeee-haaaw! So why not for once try to see if this is even feasible? I doubt that. And btw, I have ASSUMED that Pakistan has every damn advantage in this situation including first attack. What will happen if India decides to go first? Pakistan does not have a robust third leg of nuclear deterrence.

You have a point, I don't deny it. But this really belongs to a different thread, and with some knowledgeable people who can avoid ad hominem in the conversation.