A Bollywood Hinduvta باجی راؤ مستانی وغیرہ وغیرہ

[Hamzay]

LOL - what a rant.

1. Equating the work of a regime to the work of a number of mislead citizens can only happen in Pakistan - because there really is no writ of the State. In Bamiyan, the Buddhas were destroyed by the State. In Ayodhya the mosque was destroyed by a mob and immediately the State Govt was fired.

Let me 'fine tune' your general knowledge since you don't seem willing to buy common sense from me

* BJP won only 2 seats in 1984 election.

* It gained popularity following the Ram Janma Bhoomi Movement.

* In 1992 it demolished Babari Masjid.

* And the chamatkar - in 1996 it was the largest party in the Parliament.

* However in 1998, it succeeded to form a coalition government.

* And finally the Butcher of Gujrat became the Prime Minister of Bharat in 2014 election with a sweeping win.

Conclusion

Demolishing Babari Masjid brought a Tonga Party to power (which owned only 2 seats in 1984).

And Bharatiya Janata Bollywood is going to get Hindu extremists more popular by showcasing Dewani Mastani films.

The most important is hatred for Muslims. The more you fan this hatred, the more Hinduvta will be achieved. Unite Bharat by targeting, harassing, teasing, taunting and murdering Muslims of India..

 

[Jackdaws]

Let me 'fine tune' your general knowledge since you don't seem willing to buy common sense from me

* BJP won only 2 seats in 1984 election.

* It gained popularity following the Ram Janma Bhoomi Movement.

* In 1992 it demolished Babari Masjid.

* And the chamatkar - in 1996 it was the largest party in the Parliament.

* However in 1998, it succeeded to form a coalition government.

* And finally the Butcher of Gujrat became the Prime Minister of Bharat in 2014 election with a sweeping win.

Conclusion

Demolishing Babari Masjid brought a Tonga Party to power (which owned only 2 seats in 1984).

And Bharatiya Janata Bollywood is going to get Hindu extremists more popular by showcasing Dewani Mastani films.

The most important is hatred for Muslims. The more you fan this hatred, the more Hinduvta will be achieved. Unite Bharat by targeting, harassing, teasing, taunting and murdering Muslims of India..

Yawn. Clearly, the madrassa education misses a few key facts

1. In 1984, Congress swept to power because of the Indira Gandhi assassination and the "Mr. Clean" image of her son Rajiv Gandhi

2. BJP still polled an impressive 10% of the national vote.

3. The BJP lost power in 2004 and 2009 - the Congress being the single largest party on both occasions.

4. Most of the electorate which voted in the 2014 election was not even born or ineligible to vote in the year 1992. And the 2014 election was won on the basis of economics, not religion but I can see why a Pakistani would inject religion in every facet of life.

 

[Hamzay]

Yawn. Clearly, the madrassa education misses a few key facts

1. In 1984, Congress swept to power because of the Indira Gandhi assassination and the "Mr. Clean" image of her son Rajiv Gandhi

I agree, but in 1996 there was no assassination, there was one vandalism (of Babari Masjid) that made BJP the largest party in the Parliament.

3. The BJP lost power in 2004 and 2009 - the Congress being the single largest party on both occasions.

BJP lost power in 2004 because in 1999 it failed to teach Muslim-Pakistan a lesson. It however showed its ugly colours by murdering Muslims of Gujrat in 2002. The whole world was spitting at Bharat, so there was no choice but to say bye bye to BJP for a while.

Most of the electorate which voted in the 2014 election was not even born or ineligible to vote in the year 1992.

Which means the new born and fresh blood of India had more Hinduvta in their brains, that's why they voted for BJP in 2014.

And the 2014 election was won on the basis of economics, not religion but I can see why a Pakistani would inject religion in every facet of life.

Why? Did Manmohan Singh turn India to begging?

And what? We inject religion in everything? Did we start the Ram Janma Bhoomi Movement? Do we wear Saffron and kill people over false charges of slaughtering cow?

 

[Jackdaws]

I agree, but in 1996 there was no assassination, there was one vandalism (of Babari Masjid) that made BJP the largest party in the Parliament.



BJP lost power in 2004 because in 1999 it failed to teach Muslim-Pakistan a lesson. It however showed its ugly colours by murdering Muslims of Gujrat in 2002. The whole world was spitting at Bharat, so there was no choice but to say bye bye to BJP for a while.



Which means the new born and fresh blood of India had more Hinduvta in their brains, that's why they voted for BJP in 2014.



Why? Did Manmohan Singh turn India to begging?

And what? We inject religion in everything? Did we start the Ram Janma Bhoomi Movement? Do we wear Saffron and kill people over false charges of slaughtering cow?

LOL - as usual, all information is mixed up in your mind.

Actually, in the immediate aftermath of 1999, BJP came back with an even stronger mandate - because of the lesson Pakistan was taught in Kargil. Kargil happened in June-July; culminating in Sharif rushing to Clinton to bail him out. The elections happened in September. The only country being spat upon was Pakistan.

And India voted for BJP because of the development promised by Modi - he did not go around the country trumpeting a Hindutva agenda.

And look who is talking - Osama was found in your country - actually in one of your most secure garrison towns.

UN declared terrorists roam and hold rallies in your country. No you wear green and forcibly abduct and rape Hindu girls. Shoot little girls who want to go to school. Bomb Ahmadiya places of worship.

And you sit here complaining about Indian movies.

 

[Hamzay]

Actually, in the immediate aftermath of 1999, BJP came back with an even stronger mandate - because of the lesson Pakistan was taught in Kargil. Kargil happened in June-July; culminating in Sharif rushing to Clinton to bail him out. The elections happened in September. The only country being spat upon was Pakistan.

We can discuss Kargil in a new thread later. But let me tell you that in 1998 election, BJP won 182 seats. And Mr Atal Bihari Vajpai gave these 2 gifts to Indians:

1. Pakistan's Nuclear Test, 1998

2. Pakistan's incursion across the LoC at Kargil, 1999

And as I said, despite your hue and cry for face-saving, that India 'won' Kargil, BJP once again bagged 182 seats

It meant that India didn't win at Kargil. Had India defeated Pakistan at Kargil, then you know Indians, if not, then I know them well hehehe, they go crazy only if they defeat Pakistan in a cricket match, Kargil was a war; yes?

And India voted for BJP because of the development promised by Modi - he did not go around the country trumpeting a Hindutva agenda.

Why Modi? Why not a clean person who was not a murderer and criminal like him?

Vajpai Sahib was a very fine person that BJP once had; why couldn't India find a gentleman for their Prime Minister? Why a gangster, a thug, an ugly criminal like Modi?

And look who is talking - Osama was found in your country - actually in one of your most secure garrison towns.

Osama was probably been in the custody of Pakistan so that American War on Terror could be under some control of Pakistan. And Pakistan was successful in it. Pakistan did not let Americans win the war, admit it. Pakistan let America win the war when it wished, and it was the Afghan War.

Whatever we did, we did for our interests. We couldn't let Americans roam in Afghanistan on their own terms. And our grip is still strong around Afghanistan. Afghanistan will be stable only if we allow it. India can try its best, but India cannot win in Afghanistan.

India used Afghanistan against us. And see the consequences today. Take Afghanistan as an example!

UN declared terrorists roam and hold rallies in your country.

Defence of Pakistan is our priority. We have the right to defend our country in any way we think is appropriate. If some people are roaming in Pakistan, it means they are not a threat for us. UN can say whatever it can, we can manipulate it the way you did on the resolution over Kashmir.

No you wear green and forcibly abduct and rape Hindu girls.

Don't tell me that. In India girls are raped on buses. Your capital is the Rape Capital of the subcontinent. Hindu girls are as much safe or unsafe as Muslim girls are in Pakistan.

Shoot little girls who want to go to school.

She was shot by RAW assets of TTP.

Bomb Ahmadiya places of worship.

Extremists are everywhere, but they are not owned by sensible people. Unfortunately extremists have won Indian election and a filthy criminal is India's Prime Minister.

 

[Jackdaws]

We can discuss Kargil in a new thread later. But let me tell you that in 1998 election, BJP won 182 seats. And Mr Atal Bihari Vajpai gave these 2 gifts to Indians:

1. Pakistan's Nuclear Test, 1998

2. Pakistan's incursion across the LoC at Kargil, 1999

And as I said, despite your hue and cry for face-saving, that India 'won' Kargil, BJP once again bagged 182 seats

It meant that India didn't win at Kargil. Had India defeated Pakistan at Kargil, then you know Indians, if not, then I know them well hehehe, they go crazy only if they defeat Pakistan in a cricket match, Kargil was a war; yes?



Why Modi? Why not a clean person who was not a murderer and criminal like him?

Vajpai Sahib was a very fine person that BJP once had; why couldn't India find a gentleman for their Prime Minister? Why a gangster, a thug, an ugly criminal like Modi?



Osama was probably been in the custody of Pakistan so that American War on Terror could be under some control of Pakistan. And Pakistan was successful in it. Pakistan did not let Americans win the war, admit it. Pakistan let America win the war when it wished, and it was the Afghan War.

Whatever we did, we did for our interests. We couldn't let Americans roam in Afghanistan on their own terms. And our grip is still strong around Afghanistan. Afghanistan will be stable only if we allow it. India can try its best, but India cannot win in Afghanistan.

India used Afghanistan against us. And see the consequences today. Take Afghanistan as an example!



Defence of Pakistan is our priority. We have the right to defend our country in any way we think is appropriate. If some people are roaming in Pakistan, it means they are not a threat for us. UN can say whatever it can, we can manipulate it the way you did on the resolution over Kashmir.



Don't tell me that. In India girls are raped on buses. Your capital is the Rape Capital of the subcontinent. Hindu girls are as much safe or unsafe as Muslim girls are in Pakistan.



She was shot by RAW assets of TTP.



Extremists are everywhere, but they are not owned by sensible people. Unfortunately extremists have won Indian election and a filthy criminal is India's Prime Minister.

LOL - How is Pakistani incursion across LoC Vajyapayee's gift?

BJP's seats increased post Kargil. And despite your hue and cry about India not winning in Kargil - pretty much every international news source says Pakistan lost. Why do you think Sharif went to beg to Clinton?

Osama was the world's most wanted terrorist - thanks for admitting that your country was protecting him.

Why is then that Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan migrate to India but Muslims from India don't migrate to Pakistan?


LOL - did Sohail Tanveer also head the Malala investigation?

Modi is many things - but he was exonerated by the Indian Courts and Indian Courts are not like Pakistani courts which hang Prime Ministers and give sanction to military coups.

But haven't you elected a man convicted of hijacking a plane as your Prime Minister? And Bhutto was hanged for murder. So we know who has been electing criminals and murderers to be their PM.

 

[Hamzay]

BJP's seats increased post Kargil.

@Jackdaws
Get your facts straight.

BJP got 182 seats before Kargil and the same number after Kargil

Had India won the war, BJP would have bagged 182 x 2 = 364 seats

 

[Jackdaws]

@Jackdaws
Get your facts straight.

BJP got 182 seats before Kargil and the same number after Kargil

Had India won the war, BJP would have bagged 182 x 2 = 364 seats

LOL - I know the whole democracy thing is difficult for Pakistanis to understand. But it was not the BJP in power - it was the NDA in power and NDA increased its tally.

Are you now suggesting that India did not win the Kargil War?

 

[Hamzay]

LOL - I know the whole democracy thing is difficult for Pakistanis to understand. But it was not the BJP in power - it was the NDA in power and NDA increased its tally.

Are you now suggesting that India did not win the Kargil War?

Your democracy gave you a murderer as PM.

First you said BJP increased seats after Kargil, now it's become NDA. The PM was from BJP who gave 2 gifts to India and Indians didn't like them, so they there was no increase in BJP's seats.

We can start a thread on Kargil and work out the findings.

 

[Samlee]

Lahore syndrome is spot on. I know a pakistani guy who laments the religious violence in pakistan but then named his son Taimur to honor taimur lang.

Now taimur was not some religiously important guy, just an invader who slaughtered and raped lakhs, most of them in todays pakistan. The REAL reason he is loved if because the people he slaughtered were mainly hindu. This dude who hates Fazlullah thinks a foreign plunderer mass murderer Taimur was a hero.

What gives ?

Oh Really I Did Not Realize That Delhi,Meerut and Panipat Are Parts of Pakistan

And Read About The Massacres In Isfahan and Damascus Before Commenting,These Were Muslim Cities.



And Name Is A Random Choice.People Still Name Their Kids Joseph and Adolf.Doesn't Have To Have The Intention Of Glorifying Anyone


And Taimur's Eldest Son's Name Was Shah Rukh Why Don't You Tell Shah Rukh Khan To Change His Name

If it helps soothe your muslim male ego, their kid was brought up a muslim in the peshwa household even after the deaths of bajirao and mastani, given a jagir to run and he fought and died for the marathas in the battle of panipat, like many other muslims. The marathas were indeed a local force against invading afghans but for afghans it was a religious jehad. May be you should worry more about the muslims of then and of now taking the religion cool aid a little less seriously.

You can start with you and the think tanks and senior members worrying themselves sick about a movie in India based on history.

If Marhatas Were Such A Nationalistic Force Why Did They Loot and Plundered Their Own People Then(Read Marhata Barghis)

Its a simple question of values.

What is shivaji glorified for?

Why do you consider aurangzeb good?

We have different reasons rooted in different values. The stories we tell of shivaji are of benevolence, of respecting kalyans subhedars muslim daughter in law and sending her back with quran, of his concern for farmers, of his distrust of british and effort to build a navy. You can historically question the veracity of these stories,but not WHY we respect him.

About aurangzeb, we can not historically question the fact that he tried to forcefully convert hindus, murder sikh gurus, destroy hindu temples and bring back jaziya. Facts. Now i understand to ppl like you and the troll above u, this makes him enlightened. Like ISIS or fazlullah today. If fazlu was killing hindus most pakistanis would love him and you KNOW that. These are your values. Ours are different.

We do not have to glorify shivaji to vilify aurangzeb. Different values. There is no competition.

Yes And The Stories You Ignore Are That Of Shivaji Looting and Plundering Surat and Ahmednagar and The Atrocities Committed By His Son.

 

[Lotus_stalk]

I see nothing wrong with Hindus developing a bias and likeness towards other Hindus... It is not wrong... Everyone does this... Secularism is huge burden put head of Hindus...

After Bajirao the next film should be about Mahadhji Scindia... This guy took revenge of third battle of Panipat, literally wiped out The Rohillas...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahadaji_Shinde

He annihilated the power of Jats of Mathura and during 1772-73 and destroyed the power of Pashtun Rohillas in Rohilkhand and captured Najibabad. His role during the First Anglo-Maratha War was greatest from the Maratha side since he humbled the British in Central India, single handed, which resulted in the Treaty of Salbai in 1782, where he mediated between the Peshwa and the British.

After the Treaty of Salbai in 1782, he invaded and overpowered the Rajput states, particularly Jodhpur and Jaipur through the Battle of Patan ,the Battle of Medtya and the capturing of Ajmer in 1790. Even Sikh sardars of the cis-Sutlej region paid tributes to him.[3]

Mahadji became Vakil-ul-Mutlaq (regent of Mughal affairs), and The Mughals also gave him the title of Amir-ul-Umara (head of the amirs) in 1784

Hari Singh Nalwa and Maharaja Ranjit Singh can be made into a good movie...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranjit_Singh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hari_Singh_Nalwa

Hari Singh Nalwa (Nalua) (1791–1837) was Commander-in-chief of the Sikh Khalsa Army, the army of the Sikh Empire. He is known for his role in the conquests of Kasur, Sialkot, Attock, Multan, Kashmir, Peshawar and Jamrud. He is also the founder of Haripur city in Pakistan, which is named after him.

Hari Singh Nalwa was responsible for expanding the frontier of Sikh Empire to beyond the Indus River right up to the mouth of the Khyber Pass. In 1831, he opposed moves by Ranjit Singh to appoint Kharak Singh as his successor as Maharaja of the Sikh Empire.[citation needed] At the time of his death, the western boundary of the empire was Jamrud.

He served as governor of Kashmir, Peshawar and Hazara. He established a mint on behalf of the Sikh Empire to facilitate revenue collection in Kashmir and Peshawar.

 

[Jackdaws]

Your democracy gave you a murderer as PM.

First you said BJP increased seats after Kargil, now it's become NDA. The PM was from BJP who gave 2 gifts to India and Indians didn't like them, so they there was no increase in BJP's seats.

We can start a thread on Kargil and work out the findings.

LOL - no. I know that in Pakistan they believe in conspiracy theories but in the rest of the world - a man is innocent until proven guilty by a Court of Law. So while your current PM has been convicted of hijacking and terrorism and a former Prime Minister was hanged for murder - we don't elect such people. By all means, start a thread on Kargil.

 

[Hamzay]

Bollywood is up to this: 4 Muslim men lynched by Hindu mob, 1 died