A Blonde Tourist in India: A different tale

[jayron]

Sorry for being classist. But it looks like most of such disgusting behavior is exhibited by people at the fringes of society. So what ever effort the government wants to take regarding this issue, it should be focused on these people first.

 

[Mritunjaya]

Sorry for being classist. But it looks like most of such disgusting behavior is exhibited by people at the fringes of society. So what ever effort the government wants to take regarding this issue, it should be focused on these people first.

You have hit the problem on its head ........govt. is now planning cities like lavasa and Aamby vally which will be rape free by not allowing such 'fringes' to enter such elite communities.

Unlike Amrika where rape is an equal opportunity crime, in India it is done only by the fringe. There is a sonia gandhi task force that will focus on this fringe and Rahul baba will be eating dinner one day in the month with these fringe elements to understand the problem in more detail. All in a days work for him.

 

[cyphercide]

My problem with Michaela's account is that she didn't think it wise to contact law enforcement agencies even once. Granted, the cops in India aren't prompt or professional but I'm certain that a compliant registered by a foreign citizen would've set some wheels in motion.

 

[livingdead]

Sorry for being classist. But it looks like most of such disgusting behavior is exhibited by people at the fringes of society. So what ever effort the government wants to take regarding this issue, it should be focused on these people first.

My theory is, low level / smallish sexual crimes like eve teasing are done by fringes... rape is mostly done by upper class and should I say upper caste people..

bit controversial.. just wanted to put the thought in discussion..

 

[Mritunjaya]

My problem with Michaela's account is that she didn't think it wise to contact law enforcement agencies even once. Granted, the cops in India aren't prompt or professional but I'm certain that a compliant registered by a foreign citizen would've set some wheels in motion.

If you look at the situation realistically all the Indians Michaela's knows (her age group) would have advised her against going to the police. It is unlikely she would have acted against poplar advice.

It would have been different if she was actually raped ..... then people would have advised her to file an FIR.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Sorry for being classist. But it looks like most of such disgusting behavior is exhibited by people at the fringes of society. So what ever effort the government wants to take regarding this issue, it should be focused on these people first.

Our govt is fcked up, our media is retarded and lawmakers incompetent. Don't you think in the last eight months they could have changed the juvenile law so that that beast in mumbai atlest could have been punished enough? But now everybody is acting shocked and bewildered at the 3 year sentence for delhi juvenile as if it was unexpected, and when that mumbai beast gets three years they will do exactly that.

While i agree with your ''classist'' analyses, you need to word it differently to make it palatable.

My theory is, low level / smallish sexual crimes like eve teasing are done by fringes... rape is mostly done by upper class and should I say upper caste people..

bit controversial.. just wanted to put the thought in discussion..

You are wrong, there is a certain mob mentality that empowers the fringes man like nothing else. Those are the most heinous and violent crimes.

Rapes in villages must be a upper class (not caste) thing though, its disproportionately the land owning classes.

 

[Mritunjaya]

My theory is, low level / smallish sexual crimes like eve teasing are done by fringes... rape is mostly done by upper class and should I say upper caste people..

bit controversial.. just wanted to put the thought in discussion..

Funny you should say that ....... the junior most rapist in the delhi rape case was a muslim (the one who inserted the rod and damaged her intestite). Almost all of the mumbai rape case rapists are also muslims.

bit controversial .....just wanted to put the thought in discussion too.

 

[jayron]

My theory is, low level / smallish sexual crimes like eve teasing are done by fringes... rape is mostly done by upper class and should I say upper caste people..

bit controversial.. just wanted to put the thought in discussion..

I think the opposite is true.urban Middle/upper class have more to lose. Urban poor are more reckless and the criminally inclined are more prone to commit violent sexual crimes.

 

[livingdead]

I think the opposite is true.urban Middle/upper class have more to lose. Urban poor are more reckless and the criminally inclined are more prone to commit violent sexual crimes.

sexual violence like rape is a way of subjugation, its a way of saying I am the boss (ok sexual deprivation has a part to play).. if you are from a powerful group, the higher change of getting away with such crime...

A lower caste person will be beaten black and blue for petty theft by cops, he does petty crime because of the environment he is bought in, but rape is a crime too far for him.

 

[Mritunjaya]

While i agree with your ''classist'' analyses, you need to word it differently to make it palatable.

Seriously ?

1. Rape case: Actor Shiney Ahuja slapped wih 7 years in jail.

2. Hazaribag sadar police station witnessed high drama when police on Saturday arrested the remaining two accused in the teenager gangrape case. An irate mob of more than 500 people were set to lynch the father of one of the accused, Dhannu, who happens to be the son of DSP Arjun Ram (CID) posted in Ranchi, for trying to shield his son.

3. Mumbai college principal accused of rape

 

[jayron]

Our govt is fcked up, our media is retarded and lawmakers incompetent. Don't you think in the last eight months they could have changed the juvenile law so that that beast in mumbai atlest could have been punished enough? But now everybody is acting shocked and bewildered at the 3 year sentence for delhi juvenile as if it was unexpected, and when that mumbai beast gets three years they will do exactly that.

While i agree with your ''classist'' analyses, you need to word it differently to make it palatable.

Frankly, I am trying wrap my head around this issue. There are so many factors involved in making a person prone to sexual crimes. At least in chennai, the middle class is very timid and you won't hear much about the elite. So it is the poor people/ blue collar workers who will be in the news for sexual crimes.

The other factors are migrants who don't have their fsmily or neighbors to judge their behavior , feeling free to do what ever they want in a big city. And people with feudal background who have a macho culture and sense of invincibility .

 

[cyphercide]

If you look at the situation realistically all the Indians Michaela's knows (her age group) would have advised her against going to the police. It is unlikely she would have acted against poplar advice.

It would have been different if she was actually raped ..... then people would have advised her to file an FIR.

The stuff she described in her article are grim enough to qualify as an assault. She claims to have been masturbated on and recounts being cornered in a hotel room:

Do I describe the lovely hotel in Goa when my strongest memory of it was lying hunched in a fetal position, holding a pair of scissors with the door bolted shut, while the staff member of the hotel who had tried to rape my roommate called me over and over, and breathing into the phone?

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1023053


That should've warranted a call to the cops in my opinion. What's the use going back home and complaining when you could've easily registered a case against the hotel/staff while in India?

P.S. I'm not trying to diminish the sense of trauma she believes to have experienced or shift the blame back on her.

 

[Sashan]

Frankly, I am trying wrap my head around this issue. There are so many factors involved in making a person prone to sexual crimes. At least in chennai, the middle class is very timid and you won't hear much about the elite. So it is the poor people/ blue collar workers who will be in the news for sexual crimes.

I think it is poor urban people and the elite class who has the temerity to do it - Poor urban class because they feel they don't have nothing to lose while the elite class feels they can get away with anything.

 

[Mritunjaya]

I think the opposite is true.urban Middle/upper class have more to lose. Urban poor are more reckless and the criminally inclined are more prone to commit violent sexual crimes.

Bill Clinton had his entire presidency to loose if his sexual escapades was ever exposed. Something he would have spent his entire life preparing for. Does the middle/upper class have more to lose than that ?

 

[notsuperstitious]

Bill Clinton had his entire presidency to loose if his sexual escapades was ever exposed. Something he would have spent his entire life preparing for. Does the middle/upper class have more to lose than that ?

You really aren't making any sense.