A Big Secret of Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah

[SecularNationalist]

 

[nizamuddin]

I don't agree

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Do people also know that Jinnah ate pork and drank alcohol...

Yeah we know it. Quaid was secular but this country was hijacked by extremists.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Yeah we know it. Quaid was secular but this country was hijacked by extremists.

ever wonderred how and why ?

 

[pak-marine]

Do people also know that Jinnah ate pork and drank alcohol...

Alcohal is widely sold and consumed in Pakistan also many Non residents drink like a fish so whats the big deal with that .. As for pork jinnah was gujrati these people have less tendency towards eating meat so i have to rubbish this one

 

[pakdefender]

The man gave up everything he had for Pakistan , there is no doubt about , he could have gone for treatment anywhere in Britain but he valued Pakistan more than his life

 

[doppelganger]

I have read somewhere that his wife also suffered from TB, and was being treated for it alone in a sanitarium in Paris (I think) and that he did not visit her even once while she was there?

 

[nForce]

Yeah we know it. Quaid was secular but this country was hijacked by extremists.

Funny thing. If Jinnah was secular, he wanted a secular country too, then why on Earth people needed partition in first place ?

 

[Ahmad Sajjad Paracha]

I have read somewhere that his wife also suffered from TB, and was being treated for it alone in a sanitarium in Paris (I think) and that he did not visit her even once while she was there?

Jinnah had a daughter too but could not give much time to his wife and daughter due to his busy life. His wife was not glad to see that and went to her mother in angered where she felt ill and died. Jinnah was not told of this by her mother in law. Later his daughter was married to some christian by his mother in law.

 

[doppelganger]

Funny thing. If Jinnah was secular, he wanted a secular country too, then why on Earth people needed partition in first place ?

I also never understood this "Jinnah was secular" thing.

Jinnah had a daughter too but could not give much time to his wife and daughter due to his busy life. His wife was not glad to see that and went to her mother in angered where she felt ill and died. Jinnah was not told of this by her mother in law. Later his daughter was married to some christian by his mother in law.

Jinnah knew his wife was undergoing treatment. He wrote love letters to her while she was there.

 

[user1]

Jinnah stopped consuming alcohol during the last years of his life. The banquet given to Viceroy of India (Mountbatten) in Karachi was alcohol free highlighting the Islamic character of the new state.

Jinnah never consumed pork; it was a piece of propaganda spread by MC Chagla who held a personal grudge against Jinnah.

Akbar S. Ahmed writes in his book - Jinnah, Pakistan and Islamic Identity:

The answer may well come from Muslim history. Babar, the Mughal emperor, provides an interesting example of a Muslim’s attitude to drink. Famous in history as a tippler, he was also a poet, autobiographer, warrior and a family man. But at a critical point of his career, when the fate of India was to be decided through a battle, he decided to make a personal sacrifice. He promised God that he would give up drink on the eve of the battle. He went on to win India. Perhaps something similar happened to Jinnah. Several sources indicate that towards the end of his life he had given up drink.

In August 1995 in Cambridge, Yahya Bakhtiar recalled that to the best of his knowledge Jinnah stopped drinking in his final years, and that Iqbal had done the same —that is, in spite of doctor’s orders, they had ‘gone Muslim’. S.S.Pirzada confirms this: ‘It is on record that during his last illness when his physician advised him to take a little brandy, “as a medicine”, he refused. “You want me to take it [alcohol] in the last days of my life, I would not do that,” he said’ (interview of S.S.Pirzada by M.H.Faruqi, Impact International, August 1995:19).

Pirzada also rejects the often repeated story of Jinnah eating ham sandwiches. As Jinnah’s honorary secretary between 1941 and 1944, he never saw him eat forbidden flesh. However weak the evidence, the most widely read works on Pakistan—by Christina Lamb and Emma Duncan, for example—begin their accounts with a predictable catalogue of Jinnah’s dietary habits.

Pirzada put the matter in perspective: ‘Still there is this story about ham sandwiches which is being given currency in Pakistan now’ (Pirzada interview, ibid.). ‘The only source for this appears to be M.C.Chagla’s book Roses in December…. After independence, he rose to become a Minister in the Indian Government and a virulent anti-Pakistani.’ Pirzada explained Chagla’s motivation as the need for revenge: Chagla had been both an honorary secretary to Jinnah in the 1920s and a secretary of the Muslim League, but when he welcomed the Nehru Report in 1928, which Jinnah opposed, Jinnah had him removed. When partition came in 1947 Chagla remained on in India, rising to the post of Chief Justice of the Bombay High Court and eventually becoming ambassador to the USA and Foreign Minister of India. Chagla needed to show loyalty to India and also wished to project Jinnah as ‘secular’ and a flawed Muslim.

According to Chagla’s story (quoted in Wolpert 1984:78–9), Ruttie offered ham sandwiches to Jinnah in the middle of a political campaign. If this were true it would mean that Ruttie was mentally retarded, that she had no idea about her culture and the sensibilities of her society. In fact she was an intelligent, supportive wife. Having become a Muslim after her marriage, she would have particularly appreciated the difference between what was forbidden and what was not. The last thing she would have done would be to embarrass her husband and damage his political career. As much for religious as for cultural reasons, she would certainly not have brought her husband ham sandwiches in the middle of a political campaign, even if she had wanted him to eat them in the first place. It is a silly story.

When I asked Dina Wadia in New York whether Chagla’s story had any factual basis, she recalled that over sixty years ago they were travelling by train to a hill station when ham sandwiches were brought with the food as part of the menu. Her father had them sent away. (She also expressed her irritation about Pakistanis who only seemed to be interested in whether Jinnah ate ham and drank whisky.)

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Funny thing. If Jinnah was secular, he wanted a secular country too, then why on Earth people needed partition in first place ?

Look his personal life...Tell me he was secular or not . Is that things allowed in Islam..
Even now, Alcohal is banned here. If he would have been alive, .How jinnah arrange daru parties here.

 

[third eye]

I don't agree

Dogs, Whiskey, champagne and Dina! The Real Quaid we hide behind a Sherwani! The real Deedawar - by iqbal.latif - Newsvine

 

[Kambojaric]

Funny thing. If Jinnah was secular, he wanted a secular country too, then why on Earth people needed partition in first place ?

Because he realized the fact that the Muslim community in the British Raj was at a disadvantage in terms of numbers, education, employment etc. Jinnah was a secularist but that does not mean that he did not identify himself as a Muslim or hold dear the interests of the Muslim community in South Asia.

To give you a more recent example look at Bosnia post Yugoslavia break up. The Orthodox Serbs, Muslim Bosniaks and Catholic Croats all fought for the interests of their community without this necessarily meaning that they were respectively advocating Serb/Muslim/Catholic only states. The people of this region were and still are largely secular but saw their religion as part of their identify and as such strongly identified with members of their religious community and the interests of this religious community.

 

[nForce]

Look his personal life...Tell me he was secular or not . Is that things allowed in Islam..
Even now, Alcohal is banned here. If he would have been alive, .How jinnah arrange daru parties here.

Aww..don't tell me you can't do daru parties there.