A big question mark on India’s capacity to operate nuclear submarines

[Pksecurity]

Russia, the manufacturer of Kilo-class submarines of Indian Navy, has washed its hands off the latest disaster of destruction of one of Indian Navy’s submarines built and overhauled by it. Russian deputy prime minister has blamed that violation of safety regulations could be the most likely cause of the explosions on submarine INS Sindhurakshak because of which it sank. According to The Times of India, Dmitry Rogozin has said India had raised no questions over the technical aspects of the submarine built and recently overhauled by Russia.
This has put a big question mark on India’s capacity to operate much bigger platform, the nuclear submarine it has recently put for sea trials after activating its nuclear powered engine. The Arihant class is a class of nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines being built for the Indian Navy. INS Arihant is the lead vessel. Four vessels are being built and are expected to be in commission by 2023. The Arihant-class vessels are India's first indigenously designed and built nuclear submarine. They were developed under the US$2.9 billion Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV) project to design and build nuclear-powered submarines. INS Arihant is set to be the first ballistic missile submarine to have been built outside the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council.
The nuclear watchdog, IAEA should be concerned about the quality of safety standards of Indian Navy while dealing with nuclear submarine and put it on monitoring and surveillance.
The Russian deputy PM was visibly upset on the incident. He said the blast had occurred in the section where storage batteries were being charged. This is the most dangerous work, which is connected with safety measures rather than with the producers of this equipment.
The diesel-electric submarine was built in 1997 by the Admiralteiskie Verfi shipyard in St. Petersburg. It recently underwent interim overhaul and modernization at the Russian Severodvinsk-based Zvezdochka shipyard, and arrived at the Indian port of Mumbai on April 29.

Safety rules' violation puts question marks on India's capacity to operate nuclear submarines

 

[SirHatesALot]

The source most certainly is not hearing all voices.

 

[timetravel]

Eight nuclear submarines have sunk as a consequence of either accident or extensive damage: two from the United States Navy.

1) Thresher (SSN-593), the first submarine in its class, sank April 10, 1963 during deep-diving trials after flooding, loss of propulsion, and an attempt to blow the emergency ballast tanks failed, causing it to exceed crush depth. All 129 men on board died. Location: 350 km (190 nmi) east of Cape Cod.
2) Scorpion (SSN-589), a Skipjack-class submarine, sank May 22, 1968, evidently due to implosion upon reaching its crush depth. What caused the Scorpion to descend to its crush depth is not known. All 99 men on board died. Location: 740 kilometres (400 nmi) southwest of the Azores

Thats 2 Nuclear Subs that too from US. So accidents do happen. It has not much to do with professionalism or capability of a mature country like India.

Important point is to learn from it and ensure such unfortunate events dont happen again.

List of sunken nuclear submarines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Nexus]

The source most certainly is not hearing all voices.

+1 u are right ! please modz delete this thread.

Eight nuclear submarines have sunk as a consequence of either accident or extensive damage: two from the United States Navy, four from the Soviet Navy, and two from the Russian Navy.

1) Thresher (SSN-593), the first submarine in its class, sank April 10, 1963 during deep-diving trials after flooding, loss of propulsion, and an attempt to blow the emergency ballast tanks failed, causing it to exceed crush depth. All 129 men on board died. Location: 350 km (190 nmi) east of Cape Cod.
2) Scorpion (SSN-589), a Skipjack-class submarine, sank May 22, 1968, evidently due to implosion upon reaching its crush depth. What caused the Scorpion to descend to its crush depth is not known. All 99 men on board died. Location: 740 kilometres (400 nmi) southwest of the Azores

Thats 2 Nuclear Subs that too from US. So accidents do happen. It has not much to do with professionalism or capability of a mature country like India.

Important point is to learn from it and ensure such unfortunate events dont happen again.

List of sunken nuclear submarines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sunken_nuclear_submarines

 

[Abingdonboy]

What utter, utter horse cr@p. show me a single large navy who has not had accidents with either their SSKs,SSBNs or SSNs??


Why should this incident raise any doubts about anything??


Another case of anti-India propaganda. I'm surprised they didn't reference poverty.

 

[scorpionx]

OP forgets that the sub accidents are not rare in world's strongest naval powers.The blunt effort to raise doubt about India's ability to operate a decent naval force is not just annoying and kiddish but hilarious too.

 

[Rajib]

Who cares.you have money you have reactor then what."Neighbour Envy Owners Pride"

 

[GR!FF!N]

how did he know that the blast was in Main battery section...it might have been missile misfire too,right??IN is simply saying that its an accident in Weapon Compartment,nothing more..

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-submarine-disaster/articleshow/21871022.cms?

so,let us inspect and then open your mouth Mr. Ambassador...and how many Submarine accidents Russia faced,let alone Nuclear Submarines???

here is another noob journo....

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/18756...-be-saved-in-ins-sindhurakshak-type-disasters

trying to say how one can rescue a sub..but forgot that most probably all those sailors got killed instantly..its not where Deep submersible Vehicle got applied..

 

[DeathInvader]

anti India post!! it was a tragic accident that doesn't mean Indian navy is incapable of handling submarines....loss of lives was sad and it could have been avoided if adequate precautions were taken!! but accidents do happen!! even with the best!!

 

[special]

one of the dumbest article i read. the author don't even know about the accidents occurred to nuclear submarines around the world. he questioned the professionality of indian navy with a submarine accident!!

 

[Alphacharlie]

Russia, the manufacturer of Kilo-class submarines of Indian Navy, has washed its hands off the latest disaster of destruction of one of Indian Navy’s submarines built and overhauled by it. Russian deputy prime minister has blamed that violation of safety regulations could be the most likely cause of the explosions on submarine INS Sindhurakshak because of which it sank. According to The Times of India, Dmitry Rogozin has said India had raised no questions over the technical aspects of the submarine built and recently overhauled by Russia.
This has put a big question mark on India’s capacity to operate much bigger platform, the nuclear submarine it has recently put for sea trials after activating its nuclear powered engine. The Arihant class is a class of nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines being built for the Indian Navy. INS Arihant is the lead vessel. Four vessels are being built and are expected to be in commission by 2023. The Arihant-class vessels are India's first indigenously designed and built nuclear submarine. They were developed under the US$2.9 billion Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV) project to design and build nuclear-powered submarines. INS Arihant is set to be the first ballistic missile submarine to have been built outside the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council.
The nuclear watchdog, IAEA should be concerned about the quality of safety standards of Indian Navy while dealing with nuclear submarine and put it on monitoring and surveillance.
The Russian deputy PM was visibly upset on the incident. He said the blast had occurred in the section where storage batteries were being charged. This is the most dangerous work, which is connected with safety measures rather than with the producers of this equipment.
The diesel-electric submarine was built in 1997 by the Admiralteiskie Verfi shipyard in St. Petersburg. It recently underwent interim overhaul and modernization at the Russian Severodvinsk-based Zvezdochka shipyard, and arrived at the Indian port of Mumbai on April 29.

Safety rules' violation puts question marks on India's capacity to operate nuclear submarines

Pure Hyper Bola Bullshit or Itch in Pak/China Bottom you Decide.....

30 years Indian Navy is Running KILO Subs

3 years INS Chakra Part-1, 2 Years INS Chakra Part-2, 3 years again INS ARIHANT....

Lord China and Greatest Pakistan have Never had ANY accident in their History as they are MARD E MOMEEN....INDIANS are not Even Human...

Yanks and Ruskies had accident again as they were Tards....

Still Not able to Comprehend Objective of This ARTICLE...

 

[DARIUS]

The problem is that if all the Indians on this forum simply starts to post major and minor accidents involving subs the thread would pretty soon come to an end.This is another brainfart article better to ignore,
List of Chinese military accidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
oh my good God from the above link people might inferthat even China does not have the capability to operate any naval hardware leave aside a nuclear sub!!What a trash article. . .

 

[jaiind]

check out this link for more info on sub accidents

N-BASE - Submarine accident list

 

[Dillinger]

Russia, the manufacturer of Kilo-class submarines of Indian Navy, has washed its hands off the latest disaster of destruction of one of Indian Navy’s submarines built and overhauled by it. Russian deputy prime minister has blamed that violation of safety regulations could be the most likely cause of the explosions on submarine INS Sindhurakshak because of which it sank. According to The Times of India, Dmitry Rogozin has said India had raised no questions over the technical aspects of the submarine built and recently overhauled by Russia.
This has put a big question mark on India’s capacity to operate much bigger platform, the nuclear submarine it has recently put for sea trials after activating its nuclear powered engine. The Arihant class is a class of nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines being built for the Indian Navy. INS Arihant is the lead vessel. Four vessels are being built and are expected to be in commission by 2023. The Arihant-class vessels are India's first indigenously designed and built nuclear submarine. They were developed under the US$2.9 billion Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV) project to design and build nuclear-powered submarines. INS Arihant is set to be the first ballistic missile submarine to have been built outside the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council.
The nuclear watchdog, IAEA should be concerned about the quality of safety standards of Indian Navy while dealing with nuclear submarine and put it on monitoring and surveillance.
The Russian deputy PM was visibly upset on the incident. He said the blast had occurred in the section where storage batteries were being charged. This is the most dangerous work, which is connected with safety measures rather than with the producers of this equipment.
The diesel-electric submarine was built in 1997 by the Admiralteiskie Verfi shipyard in St. Petersburg. It recently underwent interim overhaul and modernization at the Russian Severodvinsk-based Zvezdochka shipyard, and arrived at the Indian port of Mumbai on April 29.

Safety rules' violation puts question marks on India's capacity to operate nuclear submarines

A specious argument at best and a rather apt example of an association fallacy.

If such logic were to be held as accurate then China would have a big question mark on its capabilities wrt operating submarines of any type given the 2003 incident aboard the Ming class submarine that led to the death of the complete crew and the 2011 radiation leak on the Type-094 boat. The USN would also have to take a hard look at its capabilities given its two accidents and the Russians would be copiously sweating given the large number of accidents they have had aboard their nuke boats.

Accidents, as unfortunate as they are, are a statistical probability- that is to say that they can occur and sometimes do. They require in-depth "post mortems" and stringent action- but they do not lead to the invalidation of a whole force's capabilities.

 

[fast]

Indians have not demonstrated any competency in operating subs. I'm afraid they will become the deep sea graveyards for them just like the flying coffins.