a beautiful post about north korea

[jamahir]

Sukant Chandan with Shaun Ajamu Hutchinson and 27 others.
January 6 at 3:53pm

In 1945 the people of Korea overthrew Japanese and western imperialism, a revolution by radical socialists and communists led by the late president of socialist 'North Korea' (Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea) Kim Il Sung. From 1945 until the imperialist war of aggression and genocide or the 'Korean War' in 1950, the imperialists killed nearly half a million people and destroyed much of the land.

In the war of aggression from 1950-1953 some 4 million Koreans were killed by imperialism, Pyongyang was flattened and the USA and UK imperialists forced a partition of the country and colonised the south which is still occupied by tens of thousands of USA troops who have some 1,000 nuclear war heads on the Korean armistice border pointed at Pyongyang, the capital of the DPRK.

The DPRK has always and continues to advocate the removal of all imperialist interference in Korea and for the peaceful reunification of Korea with a 'one country two systems' strategy.

Today Pyongyang stands as a beautiful city and the country continues to advance the rights and liberation of its people. The struggle of the Korean people and the DPRK greatly inspired many across the world, including Che Guevara who considered the socialist countries of Korea, China and Vietnam the most important examples of socialism and revolution for the people of the world.

The African and Black Liberation movements also took primary inspiration from the DPRK, with the Black Panthers sending solidarity delegations there and including Kim Il Sung on the front page of their newspaper and encouraged people learn from the DPRK and their concept of independence and socialism. The Nation of Islam, the All African Peoples Revolutionary Party and socialist Tanzania, Libya, Zimbabwe, Algeria, Syria and Cuba are a few countries who have had and continue to have close and warm relations with the DPRK.

Mumia Abu Jamal, political prisoner in the USA and former young local leader of the Black Panther recounts in his autobiographical book 'We Want Freedom', how the Panthers and the Nation of Islam looked to Kim Il Sing and the DPRK as a great example:

"Shouts of "Help Us Free Huey!" mingled with "Salaam Aliekum, brother!" as we struggled to sell our product.

"Yo, brother! Find out what’s happenin’ that the white power structure ain’t gonna tell ya! Check out The Black Panther—only a quarter!"

"Salaam Aliekum, Sister! Come on back to your own! Read Muhammad Speaks! Twenty-five cents!"

For nearly an hour the sales continued, fed and famished by the flow of passerby debarking from the trains hissing to a stop overhead. After a while, we got into a conversation:

"Brother, you got to get with the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, and stop following those devils like Marx and Lenin and ’em."

"Well, bro’—you should get with the Minister of Defense, Huey P. Newton, and the Black Panther Party."

"You should follow a Black man, brother, not some Jews like Marx and Lenin!"

"We revolutionaries, brother, and we study about revolutionaries from around the world. We don’t care what race they is."

"I can see that, brother," glancing at a copy of The Black Panther, pointing to a cover picture of an Asian, full-haired man. "Who is that, brother?"

"That’s Kim Il-Sung, the leader of North Korea, and a revolutionary."

"You see what I’m saying, brother? Here you go talking ‘bout another guy! He ain’t got nothin’ to say to Black people, brother!"

"Well, if that’s so, brother, why he in yo paper Muhammad Speaks?"

"What you talkin’ bout, brother?" he asked, seemingly stunned by the question.

I read and studied his paper quite regularly, for its layout, news, and commentary, but I doubted if he ever read any of ours. This seemed only logical for someone assigned to the East Coast Ministry of Information office, and I remembered reading this week’s issue of Muhammad Speaks.

"Check it out, brother, in yo international news section."

In disbelief, he turned the pages until, sure enough, an article appeared bearing a photo of Kim Il-Sung. He looked at it, and then turned to me, smiling.

"Yes sir, brother. Yessir. Um-humm."

"And what we learned from him was the idea of Juche, a Korean word that means self-reliance!""

The 1990s and into the 2000s was a very precarious situation for the DPRK as the socialist anti-imperialist Eastern Bloc had collapsed leading to economic problems for the DPRK and the USA led the charge of threatening a war of destruction against the DPRK in its ridiculous 'axis of evil' countries. While the UK and USA destroyed Iraq and Afghanistan on the basis of lies, at the same time they were threatening the same towards the DPRK.

It was only the DPRK's capacity by means of weapons testing that showed the imperialists that the DPRK will conduct all-out peoples war and is ready and willing to defend itself by all means at its disposal. The DPRK has proven to this day that a very small global south country is able to stand up to the most powerful and genocidal imperialist system in the world by means of having a close relationship with Russia and China and above all a united people with a militant army and leadership utilising all means of self defence is the surest guarantee to secure its own independence. One only has to look at Libya, a former socialist and proud independence Pan-Africa and Pan-Arabist country that was destroyed in no small part due to it not having the military capacity to protect itself from NATO.

DPRK has been a leading beacon of anti-imperialist and socialist struggle, making its achievements through major victories against imperialism that assists all peoples across the world fighting for independence and socialism.

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source - Sukant Chandan | Facebook

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jamahir's comment - in the korea war, the aggressors not only were usa military and british military but also sadly the military of my country, india.

on behalf of the progressives and humane people in india, i seek forgiveness of the people of dprk.

edit : sukant chandan was among the brave and independent journalists/activists who visited the libyan jamahiriya in 2011 and spoke the truth about nato disinfo and outright lies... his colleague and friend is the brave and lovely lizzie phelan... here[1] is sukant speaking to rt about his visit to libya in early 2011.

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[1] 'No sign Gaddafi bombed Tripoli - NATO wages war on false claims' - YouTube

 

[T-72M1]

jamahir's comment - in the korea war, the aggressors not only were usa military and british military but also sadly the military of my country, india.

on behalf of the progressives and humane people in india, i seek forgiveness of the people of dprk.

writing in 3rd person about yourself = fail, please stop

also, the Indian contingent was a non combat medical unit, so stop it with the lies

and socialism has failed everywhere, none more glaringly so than in the failed stalinist state of DPRK, that place is a nightmare, 0 freedoms, tyranny, it's a hell hole.

or, we have members of many nationalities here talking about their governments, both pro and against, Turkey, India, Iran, Pakistan, the US.. we have here on PDF people from those nations who are both critical and appreciative of the regimes they live under, you hate the BJP/right, many support it, many Pakistani members don't like Nawaz, Syrians who support the rebels, Ukranians who support their rebels... but where are the North Koreans on PDF ? why no socialist paradise guys telling us the truth ?

 

[T-72M1]

such a lovely socialist paradise life they live, must be too busy to get on social media and share pics and tell us the truth themselves, I guess.

wot say @jamahir ?

 

[waleed3601]

the fantasy of socialism has blinded the author's view unfortunately. im a leftist as well but one must always point out errors where they exist. its just impossible to compare countries like dprk with syria and iraq. the kind of atrocities committed by kim jong un regime are absolutely preposterous. just go to youtube and hear the stories of the north korean defectors who escaped to south korea, risking their lives; about the horrible treatment and brainwashing of the local populace.

 

[jamahir]

writing in 3rd person about yourself = fail, please stop

if you mean "jamahir's comment", i use it in my op's to clearly separate my comment from the article i am posting.

also, the Indian contingent was a non combat medical unit, so stop it with the lies

1. to treat wounds of the nato aggressors.

2. medical units are combat-trained... do you mean to say this indian unit did not fire a single bullet at north korean citizens/military-personnel or did not venture into north korean territory or were not with the other aggressors who fired or bombed at north koreans??

but the basic question - what was indian army doing in the korea war siding with the nato aggressors??

let us not use the cover-for-aggression excuse "oh, the police action against dprk was under the uno umbrella"... one uno member, ussr, was helping dprk militarily and otherwise against this "uno" bunch.

i suppose the nato invasion's name ( "police action" ) was inspired by the description of the hyderabad action two years earlier later.

and socialism has failed everywhere, none more glaringly so than in the failed stalinist state of DPRK, that place is a nightmare, 0 freedoms, tyranny, it's a hell hole.

yeah and the extremely capitalist india is such a rose garden... ah, the aromatic smell of 250,000 sucided indians just in 2012 and that glorious tag "india is suicide capital of the world"[1]...

New Delhi: Every 40 seconds, a suicide is committed somewhere in the world; one of every three suicides takes place in India. This is the finding of a decade-long study by the World Health Organisation or WHO.

The report released today says that an Indian commits suicide every two minutes. In 2012, WHO believes that 2.5 lakh people killed themselves in India. The government's estimates are significantly lower.

or, we have members of many nationalities here talking about their governments, both pro and against, Turkey, India, Iran, Pakistan, the US.. we have here on PDF people from those nations who are both critical and appreciative of the regimes they live under, you hate the BJP/right, many support it, many Pakistani members don't like Nawaz, Syrians who support the rebels, Ukranians who support their rebels...

india is not just the bjp and sangh.

turkey is not just the erdogan government.

the syrian member, syrian lion, supported the government and the army.

besides, i know how surrounded i feel when i post in favor of indian progressives i.e. against reactionaries/fascists like bjp.

but where are the North Koreans on PDF ? why no socialist paradise guys telling us the truth ?

letter size 7?? maybe you should increase it to 14... double the impact of your disinfo, what say??.

but to the point, there are no venezuelans either and no longer comes the lone libyan member... should we take it to mean that i am wrong about venezeula/libya and bbc and cnn are right??


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[1] India is Suicide Capital: World Health Organisation (WHO)

 

[guest11]

LOL at the OP.

guest11 sincerely apologizes to the entire world for his conduct and irreversibly biased attitude.

It was typical 60th Para valour. In September, 1951, while attached to Commonwealth troops, they treated 448 casualties in six days of fighting. A month later they evacuated (under fire) another 150 wounded. In many other clashes later they were still in the thick of it. The Indians saved hundreds of wounded.


US helicopter picks up casualty treated by the 60th Para

In all, they treated about 200,000 wounded. … which included 2,300 field medical operations … and in the meantime, also trained local Korean doctors and nurses.

The MASH Heros You’ve Never Heard Of | KapyongKorea

On topic: North Koreans have suffered immensely under the socialist messiahs called the Kim family. They deserve better. The socialists who live in palaces, order burgers by planes and suffer from gout are a curse no human should ever have not even the bitterest of enemies.

 

[T-72M1]

letter size 7??

they're not allowed to get anywhere near the internet, a lifetime in a gulag for 3 generations of their family awaits should someone even try.

DPRK is a failed commie totalitarian orwellian hellhole

 

[jamahir]

LOL at the OP.

yeah, lol at me for bemoaning the pointless murder by nato of four million north koreans.

guest11 sincerely apologize to the entire world for his conduct and irreversibly biased attitude.

It was typical 60th Para valour. In September, 1951, while attached to Commonwealth troops, they treated 448 casualties in six days of fighting. A month later they evacuated (under fire) another 150 wounded. In many other clashes later they were still in the thick of it. The Indians saved hundreds of wounded.


US helicopter picks up casualty treated by the 60th Para

In all, they treated about 200,000 wounded. … which included 2,300 field medical operations … and in the meantime, also trained local Korean doctors and nurses.

The MASH Heros You’ve Never Heard Of | KapyongKorea

On topic: North Koreans have suffered immensely under the socialist messiahs called the Kim family. They deserve better. The socialists who live in palaces, order burgers by planes and suffer from gout are a curse no human should ever have not even the bitterest of enemies.

you must go to dprk as a tourist and say at a traffic junction what what you said here.

and how nicely you described the actions of the indian army's 60th para medical unit, without being bothered that they participated in the genocide of four million north koreans... taap kilaas !!

who exactly were these 448+150 casualties this medical unit treated?? certainly not the north korean citizens or ussr personnel or prc personnel.

ooh, i see... the "commonwealth troops"... are those the ones who colonized and massacred africans from north to south and indonesians and indians and others??

yeah, you may apologize to the world on behalf of the capitalist-imperialist genociders for my sin of speaking socialist/humane/empathic words whilst i live under bjp-rule.

and one more thing - before any naive member points about participation of cuba alongside the nato aggressors, this war was before the cuban revolutionaries and comrades like che formed their government and new system in 1959.

but beware, this is how north koreans see the nato aggressors in the korea war...

The MASH Heros You’ve Never Heard Of | KapyongKorea

Later, in March ’51, in the second biggest airborne operation in the war, Operation Tomahawk, a dozen medics of the 60th parachuted in behind the lines with 4,000 US troops. Rangaraj was among them.

In all, they treated about 200,000 wounded. … which included 2,300 field medical operations

that says a lot.

The 60th Para arrived in Korea in Nov, 1950, composed of 346 men, including four combat surgeons, two anaesthesiologists and a dentist.

why??


one female commentor on that article taking positive delight in nato's murder of four million north koreans and devastation of every north korean city... she must be a bhakt...

DPRK is a failed commie totalitarian orwellian hellhole

you didn't respond to my point about india.

 

[Skull and Bones]

@jamahir You're no one to talk on my behalf, or any other Indian for that matter. I still wish upon the fall of the imperialistic regime of North Korea.

 

[guest11]

yeah, lol at me for bemoaning the pointless murder by nato of four million north koreans.

LOL at the clown with intellectual capacity of a potato. I hate getting personal but praising Kim family is beyond belief.

As for the death of the Koreans, I feel sorry for them and for crying out loud be a man and argue like one. Don't put words in my mouth. "Either you are with us or them" is a pretty stupid argument for an adult. Grow up.

you must go to dprk as a tourist and say what you said at a traffic junction.

Again your limited knowledge, incredibly low intellect and absolute arrogance are surprisingly toxic and I thought I knew toxic. Come back when you learn something and PM me or tag me.

and how nicely you described the actions of the indian army's 60th para medical unit, without being bothered that they participated in the genocide of four million north koreans... taap kilaas !!

who exactly were these 448+150 casualties this medical unit treated?? certainly not the north korean citizens or ussr personnel or prc personnel.

ooh, i see... the "commonwealth troops"... are those the ones who massacred africans from north to south and indonesians and indians and others??

Good, now shall we ask red cross or cresent to not treat wounded in battle fields in Iraq or Syria.

As I said, intellectual capacity of a potato. This is what medical units do. They did not engage in combat and kept treating wounded even to the peril of their lives under the aegis of UN not US or Commonwealth

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yeah, you may apologize to the world on behalf of the capitalist-imperialist genociders for my sin of speaking socialist/humane/empathic words whilst i live under bjp-rule.

Another sign of coward, shifting goal posts. BJP has nothing to do with the topic. Grow up and learn to argue without your pathetic bias.

and one more thing - before any naive member points about participation of cuba alongside the nato aggressors, this war was before the cuban revolutionaries and comrades like che formed their government and new system in 1959.

Again no one mentioned it but you.







why??

one female commentor on that article taking positive delight in nato's murder of four million north koreans and devastation of every north korean city...

Really, remove the socialism tinted glasses from your eyes. A woman whose father was doing precisely what doctors do, save lives.

 

[jamahir]

@jamahir You're no one to talk on my behalf, or any other Indian for that matter.

how come??

are you supporting genocide and war crimes??

are you happy with nationalist fools and reactionaries speaking on your behalf??

and i specifically said this in the op here...

jamahir's comment - in the korea war, the aggressors not only were usa military and british military but also sadly the military of my country, india.

on behalf of the progressives and humane people in india, i seek forgiveness of the people of dprk.

see the underlined??

and if a socialist/communist/progressive like me cannot be allowed to speak on behalf of india, then who should??

certainly in that case, by jove, no indian should be allowed to speak in any forum, whether pdf or whether uno !!

I still wish upon the fall of the imperialistic regime of North Korea.

how is dprk imperialist?? was dprk the invader of libyan jamahiriya, syria, iraq, grenada, laos, vietnam, cuba, angola, iran ( 1953 ) etc??

 

[TheNoob]

@jamahir - Dude, no matter how hard you try.
These tards in the majority will put you down because you do not fall into the popular brainwashed beliefs, this is the general society nowadays.

They wont care unless the media or the govt tells them otherwise.

 

[jamahir]

@jamahir - Dude, no matter how hard you try.
These tards in the majority will put you down because you do not fall into the popular brainwashed beliefs, this is the general society nowadays.

They wont care unless the media or the govt tells them otherwise.

thanks.

i am one who was in the process of creating the first employee union in the indian it/services industry and this was in a media/it company i worked for less than a year in 2013-2014... i did this act because i care for people's troubles and the injustices they face.

i am driven to cry by the total lack of empathy among the people you refer to and i know very well, whether on this thread or about india or any where else.

you are right also in the last line... these brainwashees have opinions formed by their governments and mass media... they are the sheeple...

 

[TheNoob]

thanks.

i am one who was in the process of creating the first employee union in the indian it/services industry and this was in a media/it company i worked for less than a year in 2013-2014... i did this act because i care for people's troubles and the injustices they face.

i am driven to cry by the total lack of empathy among the people you refer to and i know very well, whether on this thread or about india or any where else.

you are right also in the last line... these brainwashees have opinions formed by their governments and mass media... they are the sheeple...

Its always nice to know that there are people who have the capability to think and see through the such Justice the world faces.

 

[Tiger Genie]

what's wrong with these people? do they think only Americans had and have any brains and so want to blame everything thing on them? do you not know the history of the Korean war and how the DPRK prompted by commie Russia tried to invade the SouthK and hence the war? In fact Truman tried to limit the war and not have it spread to China as well when McArthur wanted to continue marching straight thru NK, and took the drastic action of firing him!

Middle East, Pakistan, Korea...wherever! these guys don't know how to run their own lives, kill each other, whine and scream from help and then blame America for their miseries. And some idiots try to make hay out of this misery by wring this kind of nonsensical so called 'socialistic' threads.