92% of Saudi’s believe that “ISIS conforms to the values of Islam and Islamic law” – Poll

[ghoul]

There is no such a thing as Wahhabis by the way, I hate all religion don't get me wrong but it is part of the propaganda you have been spoon fed.

It is a flashy term for salafi. And I might be biased, but not without reasons. We, the Pakistanis, were always a pluralistic society least concerned with the middle eastern sectarian conflict, until we started seeing our tribesmen and friends getting killed just for being shias or sunni sufis. Even a few days ago, a bunch of possibly salafi terrorists shot dead a few sufis in Punjab province. Ultimately, we have to defend ourselves. Displeasure and propaganda is all we can do as of yet...

 

[nair]

There is no support for terrorism in KSA, it is just in that dirty rotten ball you call a head.

I seriously wish/hope you are right here.... But the OP says exactly the opposite.....

 

[mujhaidind]

Why target only Saudi?

Many Muslims see ISIS in a positive light.

 

[mike2000]

Woah bro, you went full retard. Getting all angry and pissy because of the internet? lol. And why yo cussin brah? I think it wasn't allowed on PDF.(@WebMaster @Chak Bamu ).

As for the Pakistanis, well, we don't hate Saudis. We only hate Wahaabis, whether a Saudi or Pakistani or human or alien, and we have reasons for that. You see the Wahaabi and Deobandi minorities of Pakistan are responsible for 99.99~% of suicide bombings, acid attacks, sectarian killings and attacks on tourists. And don't pretend that Saudi Arabian government doesn't sympathize with Wahaabi movements(disproportionately represented in terrorism) throughout the globe. Our hatred of a government, that is the chief source of funding for pro-terrorist religious seminaries is justified. Hosting our expats as foreign workers is the least you could do to actually repay us, as you guys have been funding terrorists here since the 80s in collusion with a local dictator. As for the average Saudi, I don't think he does support the ISIS. But it is also undeniable that many adventurous Saudis do go out on a "jihad" in other countries. In fact many Saudi expats might be getting tortured and beaten in some ISI cell as we speak.

PS: You do realize that an Iranian started this thread, do you? Lol.

Lol Don't bother bro. Some people don't even take time to analyse/think out things properly before reacting. Its not like we hate Muslims, Saudis etc. Its their government policies we criticise. The government is the one responsible for creating such an extremist wahabbi ideology which they finance and support overseas. This is very dangerous as it has already caused many problems/troubles in the middle east.

Me myself I criticise our government when I think their policies are wrong, only by doing so can a country prosper by learning from mistakes and willing to accept criticism. If you can't do that then you are on the wrong lane.

Fortunately not all Muslims are fanatics/extremists who support any islamist terrorists groups just because they are Muslims. I know many Muslims here in U.K who are very nice people and who condemn such groups like ISIS,AL nusra etc. Its just that they tend to be rather passive/less vocal compared to those who are in support of such groups. So it makes people think all/most Muslims are sympathetic to them,which is false.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Us Saudis need to watch our backs. Can't trust anyone anymore. We might just have to adopt the we kill them before they kill us mentality.

This is not a bad idea at all.

What matters in the end is your own strength.

Saudi is doing the right thing, increasing their defense budget to the 3rd or 4th highest in the world. Massively investing in their education and science sectors for a future economic boom.

Saudi has an advantage with massive surpluses everywhere, whilst most other governments in the world are dealing with crippling deficits and debts.

Saudi is on the right path, what's needed now is patience. The longer time goes on, the better your position will be. Same for us.

 

[mujhaidind]

Its not like we hate Muslims, Saudis etc. Its their government policies we criticise. The government is the one responsible for creating such an extremist wahabbi ideology which they finance and support overseas. This is very dangerous as it has already caused many problems/troubles in the middle east.

Westerners killing half a million Iraqi children and bombing civilian infrastructure is good. Iraqis fighting tryants is bad.

Double-standards at best! Anglo-saxon have no right to preach about peace and human rights.

 

[Green Arrow]

92 % is huge numbers and this can create some serious problems for Saudi Arabia in future.

 

[ghoul]

Lol Don't bother bro. Some people don't even take time to analyse/think out things properly before reacting. Its not like we hate Muslims, Saudis etc. Its their government policies we criticise. The government is the one responsible for creating such an extremist wahabbi ideology which they finance and support overseas. This is very dangerous as it has already caused many problems/troubles in the middle east.

Me myself I criticise our government when I think their policies are wrong, only by doing so can a country prosper by learning from mistakes and willing to accept criticism. If you can't do that then you are on the wrong lane.

Fortunately not all Muslims are fanatics/extremists who support any islamist terrorists groups just because they are Muslims. I know many Muslims here in U.K who are very nice people and who condemn such groups like ISIS,AL nusra etc. Its just that they tend to be rather passive/less vocal compared to those who are in support of such groups. So it makes people think all/most Muslims are sympathetic to them,which is false.

The muslims who are vocal against these thugs are not given media coverage that's why. In Pakistan, you have hundreds of Pashtun militias fighting against these people without any salary or army support. They risk getting their heads cut off, but never make it to prime time television. A few months ago, a bunch of Pakistani villagers denied a dead terrorist a burial in their village graveyard, but they never made it to live television either.

Secondly, these fringe terror groups operate in collusion with US-Western world nexus. Only a year ago, ISIS was being marketed as a anti-dictator, pro-democracy group by the state controlled US media, now the muslims are automatically supportive of them(lol). And yes, a lot of muslims are gullible or plain retarded, but they're usually the loudest. Most of the terrorist sympathizing muslims are either jobless, uneducated and underprivileged, or just plain losers(particularly some immigrants in Europe). Just like KKK type groups tend to attract the society's rejects and losers for example, such groups also tend to attract the same category.

 

[mike2000]

Westerners killing half a million Iraqi children and bombing civilian infrastructure is good. Iraqis fighting tryants is bad.

Double-standards at best! Anglo-saxon have no right to preach about peace and human rights.

Jeez....did you even get my point?
Where did I say our governments are angels? If you have read/follow my posts on PDF you will see I have several times criticise our government policies towards the middle east. When I see something is wrong I say it. Anyway the British people protested a lot against the war in Iraq the largest in British history. It was even the main reason tony blair lost his post as prime ministers. That shows we do criticise our governments when we think they are wrong, unlike most of you who just want to support anything as far as its your country/government.

You people should also blame yourselves and your leaders for being so divided, and stupid enough for allowing themselves to be used/played by our governments as they wish.

After all, Saudi Arabia the so called guardian of Islam is still our main sub contractor in the middle East, they even rather cooperate with Israel than with their fellow Muslim neighbour Iran. Lool just goes to show you how your governments work against your own interests. After all as much as I disapprove of our governments foreign policy towards the region, I can't blame them that much since they are mostly seeking to protect our interests. Its up to you people to know how to protect yours. In geo politics nobody is an angel who will come help you develop yourselves. Each country is only out for their own selfish interests. That's how it's been for centuries.

As for your point about Iraqi fighting tyrants is bad, what do you mean by that? Do you mean you want the Iraqi government to fall?

 

[thesolar65]

The Saudis better watch out. The Islamic Caliphate of the ISIS includes Saudi Arabia too. Then let's see how many Saudis approve of their despicable, horrific, appalling behavior.

Only the wearer knows where the shoe pinches. So let the Saudis know first hand since they seem to love the ISIS so much.

As I posted one article sometimes ago, I believe there is a friction between two factions of Saudis. Moderates(Royals) Vs. Hardliners. If ISIS succeeds (which is highly unlikely), Royals will be first of all loose their neck!!

LOL,calm down dude.This is just an internet forum where people can post whatever they want

Hey mate, where have you been? Like Halley's comet, you come, post some and then gone???

 

[Kloitra]

I seriously wish/hope you are right here.... But the OP says exactly the opposite.....

I would not give much credit to OP. How much do you know about this opinion pol? Where is the data for it, target group and so on.

 

[jarves]

Hey mate, where have you been? Like Halley's comet, you come, post some and then gone???

I am perfectly fine.Just very busy these days.lol

 

[mike2000]

This is not a bad idea at all.

What matters in the end is your own strength.

Saudi is doing the right thing, increasing their defense budget to the 3rd or 4th highest in the world. Massively investing in their education and science sectors for a future economic boom.

Saudi has an advantage with massive surpluses everywhere, whilst most other governments in the world are dealing with crippling deficits and debts.

Saudi is on the right path, what's needed now is patience. The longer time goes on, the better your position will be. Same for us.

Yes you are right Mr dragon. Its good to see Saudi Arabia investing in education, science and technology since that's where the real sustainable growth will come from. So they need to make good use of their massive oil revenues now.
However, if they keep playing/financing these wahabbi groups/exteemist religion/madrassas etc..then I'm afraid all those gains will be invane. Since that will one day come back to hunt them.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Yes you are right Mr dragon. Its good to see Saudi Arabia investing in education, science and technology since that's where the real sustainable growth will come from. So they need to make good use of their massive oil revenues now.
However, if they keep playing/financing these wahabbi groups/exteemist religion/madrassas etc..then I'm afraid all those gains will be invane. Since that will one day come back to hunt them.

I don't really know enough about the religious/sectarian politics of the Middle Eastern region to comment much on it.

But I think they are investing their surpluses in the right places. Which will improve their position in the region/world as time goes on.

 

[sms]

Saudi poll to reveal public’s level of sympathy for IS

Saudis have the most screwed up understanding of their own religion

Saudi has been going around teaching Islam to others. Its About time someone else teaches them how to practise Islam.
I like it. The chickens come home to roost.

What else could be expected....dirty history not surprised.

Finally a good news! It's good to know that at least 8% liberals with sane minds do live in Saudi.