91 civilians killed, 494 injured in police firing in J&K

[Nitin Goyal]

You talk like if India has no worries ... Even you have China as a competitor with its growing military might and economic power ... Just let the WoT end and we will see how quickly Pakistan puts its house in order ... Do you think that we hope the UN will help us take Kashmir back ? No , not really ... Sure we will see when Pakistan has minimum to no leverage in Kashmir ( 5 years you say right ? )

there was a time you were doing better than us along with all access to western systems. what did you achieved ?

 

[arcane]

You talk like if India has no worries ... Even you have China as a competitor with its growing military might and economic power ... Just let the WoT end and we will see how quickly Pakistan puts its house in order ... Do you think that we hope the UN will help us take Kashmir back ? No , not really ... Sure we will see when Pakistan has minimum to no leverage in Kashmir ( 5 years you say right ? )

so how are u planning to take back J&K?????

 

[Spitfighter]

You talk like if India has no worries ... Even you have China as a competitor with its growing military might and economic power ... Just let the WoT end and we will see how quickly Pakistan puts its house in order ... Do you think that we hope the UN will help us take Kashmir back ? No , not really ... Sure we will see when Pakistan has minimum to no leverage in Kashmir ( 5 years you say right ? )

So what if China is growing? Unlike Pakistan, they don't have a one point agenda (ie India). They've got America, Russia, Taiwan, Japan, S.Korea, Vietnam, Phillipines and India to worry about. The WoT isn't going to be over anytime soon so Pakistan isn't out of the woods yet. Then there's always American economic and diplomatic pressure, so the PA won't be crossing the LoC anytime soon. As for the insurgency, India has 600,000 troops in Kashmir alone

Be realistic, Pakistan isn't going to attack India. That's beyond ridiculous, lol. Stick to the terrorism argument, at least that has some credibility.

 

[Secur]

don't jump on that, the sukhoi never entered pakistani territory for a combat operation, had they done so, your f16 wouldn't have been able to stop us......it wasn't even able to stop the osama raid, much less a sukhoi......

and don't forget we have MRCA coming too, while u have an aircraft coming called the "Joint Failure 17"....

Whatever the Sukhoi entered for , it was locked on by the F16 and that what matters
Osama Raid is a different thing , you neither have the capability nor the guts to conduct such an operation ... go read the fate of Operation Parakram and Brasstacks ... India whilst being 5 times larger failed to control Pakistan
Oh yeah that so called Joint Failure is in operational status with close to 3 squadrons and Block 2 to enter production in 2012 unlike the LCA which is still being developed after 3 decades and still your airforce isn't satisfied with it Forget fictional planes like AMCA and Tejas Block 2 ... and talk of MRCA when you sign the deal When you get the delivery of the First MRCA plance , we would already be having FC 20's and Block 2 JFT's ...

 

[Bagee]

Aw dang, that's 91 too many, oh well who cares

we should care if u donot care that u do't have any right to say that kashmir is our part beccause the people there are not for to be gunned down so should care the thing which is happeninggg there if would have happened in ur state then i would love to read ur reaction if this is the atitude of india as a whole then no body can save india from losing kashmir they are our brotherress and sisters and need to be brought in the main stream of development.

 

[blackjack]

Whatever the Sukhoi entered for , it was locked on by the F16 and that what matters

No Sukhoi or for that matter, any IAF fighter was ever locked on by any PAF aircraft since Kargil. If you claim the above lock, please provide proof.

And please don't give me this that Kayani told this to blah and blah. If you have links, posts or anything only then claim.

 

[Tshering22]

you barbarians, those people are humans too, not dogs

Let them behave like humans first. Humans don't exterminate fellow people just because of a different thinking, plan to support cross border menace and cheat the nation at will. Civilians's definition is being not in uniform. Doesn't mean they are always innocent. With militancy in that state and small pockets of separatists still remaining, this has to be solved as quickly as possible so that state is peaceful and there is no attack on commoners because of these separatist unwanted lots.

 

[Bhairava]

Unavoidable Collateral damage.

 

[Tshering22]

we should care if u donot care that u do't have any right to say that kashmir is our part beccause the people there are not for to be gunned down so should care the thing which is happeninggg there if would have happened in ur state then i would love to read ur reaction if this is the atitude of india as a whole then no body can save india from losing kashmir they are our brotherress and sisters and need to be brought in the main stream of development.

Son, you're not at all familiar with the situation in the state. Apologeticism is going to get you nowhere. That state's situation is entirely different from what the stupid masala media portrays. Trust me, half of my family members of my generation serve there. The state is under its last days of separatism as its master collapses level after level daily. With the ebbing of its master, the militancy is about to stop.

Before any final jihad dies, it will rise a little bit more than usual only to end that much instantly. This is just the same. Many of the common civilians who have nothing against the nation are caught, bullied and killed by separatists in the state. This the media is not told and the family of the killed are threatened to speak against the Army so that foreign-funded terrorist supporters aka Human Rights groups demonize the Armies.

Do you know that our Army is one of the most civilized on earth? Had this situation been there in Russia or China, by now everyone even dreaming to support separatism would have been exterminated in droves.

We on the other hand are constructively working this long; it is our mistake. The common Kashmiri is fed up of jihad and wants to be a good educated, good working citizen. But these separatist scum will not let this happen and continue to demonize army. Don't go by what these anti-India rights bodies who are funded from Europe and other elements claim.

These bloody rights groups are against us, Russians, Israelis and every nation that fights against Jihad, for their own paid objectives.

This is why I don't support anything that these rights bodies say in China as well, because Tibetans themselves are there to speak the truth. These rights bodies are just political extensions of their governments across the ocean.

Have you noticed something? Ever since Europe and West are in crisis of economic recession, these rights bodies have reduced their accusations against our country (S)? THat should give you an idea.

 

[Fireurimagination]

Our's at Skardu is operational even now No use to us ? Ever heard of Peak 5353 ? PA can direct accurate artillery fire on Kargil-Drass road thus blocking it and creating logistics nightmare for IA ...

Weren't we discussing Kashmir at this very thread or it the same Indian favorite " Troll and derail " strategy ?

Blah blah blah LOL Come and take it oh wait the great PA can't take on some rag tag 2000 Haqqani fighters

 

[Protectionist Gareth]

not gonna cry..people die **** happens..move on.

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I bet that was your reaction to Mumbai Attack: Sh!t Happens.

Yeah those Kashmiris who go against the countries will be killed...they are sh!t and Indian army is just removing it.
Get over it

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thats what gadaffi and his regime used to say about libya

Gadhafi got ousted in 7-8 months...Kashmir is here since many many years..got something to learn from it now?

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Kargil remember ? Strategic peaks and the Chicken Neck area was never returned

LOl you got what one-2? And you are all encircled by India..your troops won't even return in pieces
Siachen got enlightened?

 

[arcane]

Whatever the Sukhoi entered for , it was locked on by the F16 and that what matters
Osama Raid is a different thing , you neither have the capability nor the guts to conduct such an operation ... go read the fate of Operation Parakram and Brasstacks ... India whilst being 5 times larger failed to control Pakistan
Oh yeah that so called Joint Failure is in operational status with close to 3 squadrons and Block 2 to enter production in 2012 unlike the LCA which is still being developed after 3 decades and still your airforce isn't satisfied with it Forget fictional planes like AMCA and Tejas Block 2 ... and talk of MRCA when you sign the deal When you get the delivery of the First MRCA plance , we would already be having FC 20's and Block 2 JFT's ...

i don't understand how does locking on a aircraft matters, sukhoi is a superior aircraft to f16, it has been well accepted by your pakistani friends on the forum too.....moreover we have far more sukhois than u have f16, u PAF doesn't stand a chance against IAF......i never said we want to conduct an operation like osama raid, i was just saying that your air defences don't have the capacity to stop anyone who wants to.......

And JFT entering production doesn't prove anything, it is a very low quality aircraft, thats why pakistan has not been able to export it in spite of chinese support and all the price pitching, and don't worry about LCA, we are developing it on own, its not a TOT like JF17......

 

[GORKHALI]

We have a few more under our sleeves ... Just let the WoT end

Just let the WOT end and You see another WOT started next to Afghanistan,Drill already started ...However Don't you worry, We have almost completed Border fencing and Installed Evil Zionist equipment to track your incoming left over ............

 

[Secur]

i don't understand how does locking on a aircraft matters, sukhoi is a superior aircraft to f16, it has been well accepted by your pakistani friends on the forum too.....moreover we have far more sukhois than u have f16, u PAF doesn't stand a chance against IAF......i never said we want to conduct an operation like osama raid, i was just saying that your air defences don't have the capacity to stop anyone who wants to.......

And JFT entering production doesn't prove anything, it is a very low quality aircraft, thats why pakistan has not been able to export it in spite of chinese support and all the price pitching, and don't worry about LCA, we are developing it on own, its not a TOT like JF17......

No one's doubting the capability of Sukhoi , but like all aircrafts it can be locked on by another aircraft ... You guys have a hard time digesting that fact actually

Really ? you very sure about our air defenses ? Well then what are you waiting for ? Just come and have a go at your favorite terrorist camps

and about JFT , Does it become low quality just because some hatist says so ?
Even the Rafale hasn't yet been exported to another country , is it a low quality jet too ?

JFT is "Extremely close" to MIG-29: Mikhail Pogosyan

The deal is facing opposition from Russian aircraft manufacturers, such as Mikhail Pogosyan, the head of the MiG and Sukhoi aviation holding, who said that the FC-1 is extremely close, if not the same, as the Russian-made MiG-29. Pogosyan claimed that FC-1 is a direct competitor to Russia's MiG-29 and the deal would incur losses for the Russian manufacturers.
Made-in-China airplanes may undermine sales of Russian high quality jets — RT

So who's words are more credible ?
and LCA ... Well talk of it when it enters operational plane ... At this moment , its a paper tiger

 

[Secur]

Just let the WOT end and You see another WOT started next to Afghanistan,Drill already started ...However Don't you worry, We have almost completed Border fencing and Installed Evil Zionist equipment to track your incoming left over ............

The conventional advantage been's there for 60+ years for you , had it stopped us ever ?