90 MMRCA deal and probable winner

[GURU DUTT]

I believe it will be Rafale only, Parrikar is just playing hardball

u nailed it

 

[HariPrasad]

F 16 is a very good deal. We can have latest F 16. It has a great engine , more than great maintainability, and top in the class AESA.

 

[Optimos Prime IA]

witill be either

You can't use heavy fighters everywhere. It is primarily an air dominance fighter, not always suitable for other roles.

When you are hungry and want to survive just grab anything you eat ! And survive ... You can't wait for someone to bring you a parcel of Chicken biriyani ...

Do you have any other options ?

F 16 is a very good deal. We can have latest F 16. It has a great engine , more than great maintainability, and top in the class AESA.

It comes with ON OFF button remotely controlled by Americans. We are not Pakistan we won't allow anyone to control our freedom .. So deals with US is is not worth . And IAF talking about EF PAKFa so so why we need F16 ?

 

[HariPrasad]

It comes with ON OFF button remotely controlled by Americans. We are not Pakistan we won't allow anyone to control our freedom .. So deals with US is is not worth . And IAF talking about EF PAKFa so so why we need F16 ?

We need F16 for low price and top in class RADAR. You have a point though.

 

[Optimos Prime IA]

We need F16 for low price and top in class RADAR. You have a point though.

Yes I have a clear point .. Will US transfer technology without any strings attached and why do we even need F16s which PAF using for many decades now ? What we need is have BVR capabilities .For this we need Western fighters . It's not luxury but MUST have capability. With EF we will have huge advantage over Chinese jets J10B/J11D/27/30 or even J20 /31 . First preference for an air force is Air superiority then comes A2G capabilities . With MKI we could take on any PLAAF jets in WVR no double thoughts on that ... but to win a war you need special weapons superior to your adversary . Which I belive EF /Rafale or Stealth Su35 MKI or PAKFA .

 

[HariPrasad]

With EF we will have huge advantage over Chinese jets J10B/J11D/27/30 or even J20 /31 .

LCA MK2 shall be more than sufficient for all these chinese lot.

 

[surya kiran]

Am not sure how we could work it out with 4 nations . But for instance we can have agreement with 1 of the partner and make them the sole owner of the deal . I think it's possible .But am not sure .

Out of this 2 are countries, who do not want us in the UNSC. Namely Italy and Spain.

 

[IND151]

Main reason we went for rafale than ordering additional sukoi is to have different capabilities . You also ask they why we are ready to pay huge chuck of foreign reserves and our hard earned money for new fighter platform when we already have in house infrastructure for MKI . Our adversary is not Pakistan with their f16 and Jf17 but equally competitive sukois if china .

Prevention is better than cure . EF has better RCS and so enhanced advantages over Su35 in Beyond visual range tactics. EF with IAF will for credible deterrent against sukois and future J20 . Not to forget EF will get mature further in days to come .

On ur logistic nightmare : I seriously get irritated to this line . Those who talk about nightmare in operating different platform should know IAF don't operate only 1 or 2 fighters .We already operates Mirage , Jags , mig 27 , 21 , 29 , sukois in very large numbers.In future we tend to add Rafale , FGFA, AMCA, Tejas to name a few. In future we might opt for F35B for Island operation or for second wave of attacks once our runways are been targeted (Note : Don't jump the gun on F35. I just gave an example on how our planning will evolve! !! ) . So do you think our Airforce personals are fools that they don't think like you ? Come on get a break .

Apart from that reducing dependence on Russsia was one of many aims of MMRCA.

So this order will got to Rafale. EFT wont be selcted or it will be logistical nightmare.

 

[Optimos Prime IA]

LCA MK2 shall be more than sufficient for all these chinese lot.

Dude Where is MK1 or MK1-P in first place ? There is no MK2 for the next 6-8 years .But Chinese will have all I mentioned . We can't let this happen and for Costly fighters for technical advancement . EF Rafale PakFa or stealth Su35 MKI ... Other than these we will be in deep trouble

Apart from that reducing dependence on Russsia was one of many aims of MMRCA.

So this order will got to Rafale. EFT wont be selcted or it will be logistical nightmare.

Logistical nightmare is better than having weaker airforce or airforce with a disability against your enemy's 4++ and 5th gen fighter ... Costly ? Logistic nightmare so be it ! We afford to loss our skies to enemy's bombers ...

Some of the fighters we already operates : Mig21/27/29/29 k , Su 30, jags, mirages, naval fighters , transport , helicopters etc ... Don't you think we can do away with nightmare u talk about ?

 

[IND151]

The additional birds which will be ordered will be Rafales.

Dude Where is MK1 or MK1-P in first place ? There is no MK2 for the next 6-8 years .But Chinese will have all I mentioned . We can't let this happen and for Costly fighters for technical advancement . EF Rafale PakFa or stealth Su35 MKI ... Other than these we will be in deep trouble



Logistical nightmare is better than having weaker airforce or airforce with a disability against your enemy's 4++ and 5th gen fighter ... Costly ? Logistic nightmare so be it ! We afford to loss our skies to enemy's bombers ...

Some of the fighters we already operates : Mig21/27/29/29 k , Su 30, jags, mirages, naval fighters , transport , helicopters etc ... Don't you think we can do away with nightmare u talk about ?

What about first line of my post? And choosing both Rafale and EFT/AOP will create logistical nightmare.