8th grade Christian girl accused of blasphemy over a typo in Punjab

[ptldM3]

I don't know about God but the Arab-ized Muslims of Pakistan are one hell of Grammar Nazis, sick!

As they should be.

 

[muse]

It's like the freakin dark ages - Sacrilegious words, sensitive matters like idol worship, It's the Catholic Church and the grand Inquisitor -- it's all so...so, ridiculously medieval and tragic, a 14 year old girl, some described as "not a child". a family walking ion eggshells, a community seething that it's idol was not worshiped in the right way -- nightmarish

 

[RazPaK]

I am an average Pakistani Muslim, and according to Islam behaving this way with a child is against my religion.

 

[muse]

I am an average Pakistani Muslim, and according to Islam behaving this way with a child is against my religion.

So the behavior of this little town is a one off case, don't you think? It's not really a accurate representation of what's really going on in Pakistan, isn't it?

 

[Ahmad]

It's like the freakin dark ages - Sacrilegious words, sensitive matters like idol worship, It's the Catholic Church and the grand Inquisitor -- it's all so...so, ridiculously medieval and tragic, a 14 year old girl, some described as "not a child". a family walking ion eggshells, a community seething that it's idol was not worshiped in the right way -- nightmarish

i think we are going to suffer this way for many decades and who knows centuries to come, until we ourselves say enough is enough and change oursevles. It will take time and suffering to change all this, everyting comes with a price.

 

[RazPaK]

So the behavior of this little town is a one off case, don't you think? It's not really a accurate representation of what's really going on in Pakistan, isn't it?

When Pakistanis are ignorant on their own religion, how can they progress in other sectors of education? We need quality education more than anything else.

 

[Ahmad]

When Pakistanis are ignorant on their own religion, how can they progress in other sectors of education? We need quality education more than anything else.

I think this ignorance for us muslims(not only paksitanis) is due to our too much, i mean too much obsession with religion, once upon a time i was ignorant like that, but since i have eased things off, i feel like human being again, and i feel good too.

 

[RazPaK]

I think this ignorance for us muslims(not only paksitanis) is due to our too much, i mean too much obsession with religion, once upon a time i was ignorant like that, but since i have eased things off, i feel like human being again, and i feel good too.

Ever since WOT, the west started to pick at our religion, and many people are very sensitive about this. They picked at muslims sensitivities and in result created more extremism than ever before. It's like a phenomenon to see ever since 9/11 how many muslims have been forced in the corner to resort to being labeled as radicals.

 

[muse]

i think we are going to suffer this way for many decades and who knows centuries to come, until we ourselves say enough is enough and change oursevles. It will take time and suffering to change all this, everyting comes with a price.

When Pakistanis are ignorant on their own religion, how can they progress in other sectors of education? We need quality education more than anything else.

And IF that day comes Islam will have changed --religion is what adherents practice, and never anything else --- but why have we become idol worshipers, why are we so obsessed with enemy seeking and enemy making? What is root , the raag and rishe of this malady? Our parents were not like this, what makes us like this and WHY?

It is of course the quality of the education about what is Islam that we receive - the more interesting question is WHY is the quality or content of the Islam we are taught, what it is, whose purposes are being served?

 

[Nitin Goyal]

Even people on PDF do the spelling mistakes.. though we have the spelling checker. That is sick.

 

[RazPaK]

And IF that day comes Islam will have changed --religion is what adherents practice, and never anything else --- but why have we become idol worshipers, why are we so obsessed with enemy seeking and enemy making? What is root , the raag and rishe of this malady? Our parents were not like this, what makes us like this and WHY?

It is of course the quality of the education about what is Islam that we receive - the more interesting question is WHY is the quality or content of the Islam we are taught, what it is, whose purposes are being served?

When a poor child attends a poor madrassa he is taught to read Quaran in arabic. Then anything after that is hear say from the mullah. Mullah might be a good man, but puts more emphasis on one thing than another.

I believe this is how the seed is planted.

 

[Ahmad]

Ever since WOT, the west started to pick at our religion, and many people are very sensitive about this. They picked at muslims sensitivities and in result created more extremism than ever before. It's like a phenomenon to see ever since 9/11 how many muslims have been forced in the corner to resort to being labeled as radicals.

Too simple to blame WOT for everything, dont you think extremism wasnt there both in our countries? if you didnt feel it in big citiies like Islamabad and Lahore was a different matter, but you surely heard the stories in Afghanistan and your other cities in KP, Baluchistan etc, the problem was there and it was only a matter of time that it knocked on your door and you physically felt it, it was like fire hiden under ashes. This child of extremism was born after the americans and pakistan got invollved against the soviets in our soil,nobody was extremist befroe that point, i am sure pakistan was normal, adn we in Afghanistan were normal human being, we were poor, but we still had little food on our plates and we were not extremists. Thanks to Americans, ISI and off course general zia for their very very leading role in creating this thing.

 

[RazPaK]

Too simple to blame WOT for everything, dont you think extremism wasnt there both in our countries? if you didnt feel it in big citiies like Islamabad and Lahore was a different matter, but you surely heard the stories in Afghanistan and your other cities in KP, Baluchistan etc, the problem was there and it was only a matter of time that it knocked on your door and you physically felt it, it was like fire hiden under ashes. This child of extremism was born after the americans and pakistan got invollved against the soviets in our soil,nobody was extremist befroe that point, i am sure pakistan was normal, adn we in Afghanistan were normal human being, we were poor, but we still had little food on our plates and we were not extremists. Thanks to Americans, ISI and off course general zia for their very very leading role in creating this thing.

Yes. The Saudis used religion on behalf of the United States to bring peoples of Afghanistan together. I was just pointing out that since the soviets and WOT, muslim extremism has increased significantly. You have to realize the Saudis made a joke out of Islam, because most the taliban were not even practicing what they were preaching.

 

[muse]

But this child was not a madresssha student, neither were any of the classmates, neither her teacher a Mullah, neither her principal, neither the POF director --- or were they? You decide

It's not just a madressah problem, it's a mainstream problem - this is what we are, we seek and make enemies everywhere, across the world, across the borders, across our cities and small towns, inside our own families.

It's very painful - I can't get over what that mother had to go through, how her dignity was so suddenly worth nothing, her explanations, her apologies, moving from the town, having to leave her job - for a spelling mistake --- See it's not as if that teacher or principal or director are bad people or even the khateeb, but they are in a system where the state commands your conscience and if they had not done what they did, what might happen to them? So a system of cowardly behavior, a system of un-Muslim behavior, a system in which in the name of religion any outrage is acceptable, in fact the more outrageous the greater the show of public piety --

There is an article of the Pakistan war board on the killing of the hazara, in which the author makes the case that we have devolved into apes, as opposed to evolved from apes - it's compelling, I encourage you to review it and please do think, it takes just one person, one person to say No, not in my name, No! I will not accept this - if it can change a family, a neighborhood, a town, that's a really big deal. Sorry for sounding preachy, I really think you or any of us will not find leadership in others, alas, and we may have to be our own leaders - a terrible prospect, but one we cannot escape and since we can't we might as well embrace it and let our conscience be our guide.

 

[RazPaK]

But this child was not a madresssha student, neither were any of the classmates, neither her teacher a Mullah, neither her principal, neither the POF director --- or were they? You decide

It's not just a madressah problem, it's a mainstream problem - this is what we are, we seek and make enemies everywhere, across the world, across the borders, across our cities and small towns, inside our own families.

It's very painful - I can't get over what that mother had to go through, how her dignity was so suddenly worth nothing, her explanations, her apologies, moving from the town, having to leave her job - for a spelling mistake --- See it's not as if that teacher or principal or director are bad people or even the khateeb, but they are in a system where the state commands your conscience and if they had not done what they did, what might happen to them? So a system of cowardly behavior, a system of un-Muslim behavior, a system in which in the name of religion any outrage is acceptable, in fact the more outrageous the greater the show of public piety --

There is an article of the Pakistan war board on the killing of the hazara, in which the author makes the case that we have devolved into apes, as opposed to evolved from apes - it's compelling, I encourage you to review it and please do think, it takes just one person, one person to say No, not in my name, No! I will not accept this - if it can change a family, a neighborhood, a town, that's a really big deal. Sorry for sounding preachy, I really think you or any of us will not find leadership in others, alas, and we may have to be our own leaders - a terrible prospect, but one we cannot escape and since we can't we might as well embrace it and let our conscience be our guide.

Lmao so you're saying we as a people morally suck..

and I think that is the problem.