56% of Americans still believe Hiroshima bombing was justified – poll

[Indos]

Mc Arthur wants to nuke North Korea, but Truman reject that idea. I believe Harry Truman feel guilty.

 

[Place Of Space]

Lool so now you are turning it into a race thing. Why im i noy surprised? Chinese and asians always playing the victimhood card. I thought you people had grown out of that, giving your growing size. But i guess i was wrong, old habits die hard.

So is it also because of race that the nazis germany considered other white races as inferior to them? Is it also because of race that Germany wanted to wipe out communist soviet Russia off the map(more than 20-25million russian perished fighting nazi germany. That was more than the size of many countries back then).lol. im sure that haf Russia been an asian country, you would have been saying the same thibg today about the evil wjite race trying to wipe out a poor innocent peaceful oriental country.

My man please the race card logic doesnt works at all in geo politics.if it did we will never have fought bloody wars for supremacy against each other in Europe i.e between France and Britain, Britain and Germany, britain and spain etc etc.

Do you even know why the U.S decided to use the bomb on Japan after nazi Germany was defeated? Thought you people knew that. Seems you still need alot of time to learn this.



Well, thats exactly their logic my friend. They are playing the race card. They always think of themselves as poor victims being oppressed by the imperialistic devilish West(or white man.lol). Sometimes they sound like delusional Arabs/muslims(those who have lost hope) who blame everything that went wrong on the west.

As far as I know, after WWII, America took all Japan, Britain and France sphere into American hands.
Japan's Korea, Ryukyu, Pacific islands are now under American control; France's Indochina took over by America via Vietnam war; Britain's Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore now are deeply influenced by America.

I don't know you applaud America for what? lol

 

[mike2000 is back]

He's so delusional he thinks the Manhattan Project (which was started in 1939) was for a future weapon to use against Japan. Even though obvious evidence shows Einstein had tipped off Roosevelt that the NAZIS were building a bomb and that's why it was started.

The only reason it wasn't used in Europe was because the war there ended in May 1945 just before the first successful atomic test in July.

I dont really think he is delusional. Its more like always trying to play the victimhood card(which they are so used to).lol.
In fact i wouldnt have mind at all for the U.S to just keep carpet bombing Japan killing millions(but as far as it attracts less attention/scrunity than using an atomic bomb who cares?lol) then launching a land invasion after heavy bombings of japanese cities . In short i think it will have been better for the U.S to keep its nukes and barpet bomb japan like it did with germany , even though im sure millions upon millions of japanese would have perished. But who cares , as long as you dont use nukes, its not a war crime. japan was indeed lucky nukes were used to bring the war to a quick end saving millions of japanese lives and cities from being wiped out. Since thats exactly what would have happened had the U.S launch a full scale ground invasion of mainland japan.
chinese on here who are crying crocodile tears for Japan(lol) also should be happy, since without the U.S going to war with Japan. Then China(like all of asia back then) would have remained a japanese occupied territory for a longggggggg time(since there is no way in heaven they could have defeated japan) Banzai.

 

[Place Of Space]

I dont really think he is delusional. Its more like always trying to play the victimhood card(which they are so used to).lol.
In fact i wouldnt have mind at all for the U.S to just keep carpet bombing Japan killing millions(but as far as it attracts less attention/scrunity than using an atomic bomb who cares?lol) then launching a land invasion after heavy bombings of japanese cities . In short i think it will have been better for the U.S to keep its nukes and barpet bomb japan like it did with germany , even though im sure millions upon millions of japanese would have perished. But who cares , as long as you dont use nukes, its not a war crime. japan was indeed lucky nukes were used to bring the war to a quick end saving millions of japanese lives and cities from being wiped out. Since thats exactly what would have happened had the U.S launch a full scale ground invasion of mainland japan.
chinese on here who are crying crocodile tears for Japan(lol) also should be happy, since without the U.S going to war with Japan. Then China(like all of asia back then) would have remained a japanese occupied territory for a longggggggg time(since there is no way in heaven they could have defeated japan) Banzai.

You applaud America for what? America took everything Britain owned in Asia. It's like Japan took everything China owned in Asia.

 

[Jlaw]

Not be childish. The Japan was nuked which had few relation with China. That's the conflict between Japan and America. After WWII, American took all Japanese sphere of influence in Asia-Pacific, from Korea to South East Asia. Japan and America had solved the historical problem by San Francisco conference. China didn't take part in the SF conference, so the conflict between China and Japan remained. The Japanese WWII Crime have not been solved between China and Japan.

In the Potsdam Declaration, they did give Japan chance to surrender, but Japan refused firmly.
Nowadays, China give the Japan chance to apologize, Japan refuse. Let's observe the trend in near future.

I never said there was a relationship between the two incidents. Im just saying it is justified.

 

[Place Of Space]

It remind me the Spanish guy member here. America took all Spanish sphere from Florida, south America to Philippines, Guam. The Spanish guy nowadays blindly attack China and applaud the Spain-destroyer America. it's funny. lol

 

[Indian Patriot]

What's your opinion of firebombing...since a Chinese member here is quoting posts making it sound like its an American invention. Tell us about British and German firebombing.

Firebombing as a tactic was developed by RAF.

 

[Zsari]

You mean like the unprovoked Chinese occupation of Tibet?

What kind of crap is that? Tibet was annex in 1792 and recognized as part of China ever since.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

How about you give your own opinion as well. Will be interesting to know.

The US isn't saint and we don't like it, but Japan deserved the karma.

Also, it has strengthened our determination to build our own nukes.

 

[Indian Patriot]

What kind of crap is that? Tibet was annex in 1792 and recognized as part of China ever since.

chinese recognition does not count. And if you are so cool about tibet annexation why are you pissed by japanese occupation?

 

[Zsari]

chinese recognition does not count. And if you are so cool about tibet annexation why are you pissed by japanese occupation?

Chinese recognition? It was recognized by all nations. The video I've linked shows US state department publication in 1945 with map of China clearly including Tibet.

And yes after Dzungar Mongol's invasion in 1720 and Napel's invasion in 1791 into Tibet, where Dalai twice fled to Beijing begging for help and twice was restored to power by the Qing army, I have no issue with the Qing court finally deciding to annex the territory and permanently station troop there.

 

[mike2000 is back]

As far as I know, after WWII, America took all Japan, Britain and France sphere into American hands.
Japan's Korea, Ryukyu, Pacific islands are now under American control; France's Indochina took over by America via Vietnam war; Britain's Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore now are deeply influenced by America.

I don't know you applaud America for what? lol

And so? That's geo politics, sometimes concessions have to be made. As i said geo politics is just a game. You shoud never take it personal or too serious. You just need to know how to play it.
I havent seen Britain crying or always complaining about being a victim of german imperialism(despite all the wars we fought against them), we dont have thst weak feeling of victimhood.lol We know how geo politics works, so we are under no illusions about morality in geo politics or 'fairness'. Lool

Obviously we had to make some concessions to the U.S. since after fighting nazi germany in europe(the only european country left standing), meditaranean, middle east and in N.Africa, plus the japanese empire in Asia, our resources were strained and our forces were overstretched fighting a war all over the globe for years. Hence after the war, we had to make concessions and share our colonial overseas territories with the U.S. That was the best deal we could have, since it kept us at high table of the three powers who decided the fate of the post world order. So we did what best served our interests. Since it was bound to happen. So we, the U.S and U.S.S.R helped shaped the post war world order as we know it today. Reason the west still holds so much leverage/power in many international organizations and still leads the world(after U.S.S.R collapsed) as the rules were written by us.

True there was a peaceful transition of power/world leader between the U.K and U.S after the war. However i will say we managed it quite well judging the conditions the world (and our empire)was in after the war. We still managed to retain much of our influence and some of our overseas territories/military bases overseas ,from indian ocean(diego garcia which we share with U.S) to cyprus to S.America (falklands.) to gilbratar in meditaranean sea, to caymans islands in west indies Etc etc. Not even talking of commonwealth which is still a british led organization with our former colonies participating even today under our umbrella. Huh.......ok only the mighty U.S refused to be part if it unfortunately. lol.

So we didnt lose much that we wouldnt have lost anyway with time. just need to play the game well.

America and Britain shaped the world after World War II, and ought to be proud of their work - Comment - Voices - The Independent

From Enemy to Ally - John Bull and Uncle Sam: Four Centuries of British-American Relations | Exhibitions (Library of Congress)

The U.S. And Great Britain During the Two World Wars

British Overseas Territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Speeder 2]

What kind of crap is that? Tibet was annex in 1792 and recognized as part of China ever since.

Many thanks for posting the vid! It's the 1st time I've watched it, quite a history.

 

[24 Hours]

Mc Arthur wants to nuke North Korea, but Truman reject that idea. I believe Harry Truman feel guilty.

I don't think Truman felt guilty about bombing. He rejected McArthur's idea because it had more to do with expanding the war all the way in China and Truman thought it could trigger an ever bigger conflict.

 

[haviZsultan]

200000 killed in the bombings of nagasaki and hiroshima and still justifications by the US and its people. This degenerative race of people has gone down gradually and as Clemenceau noted are, despite their immense technology and firepower barbarians with a typical barbarian world view.

Who allowed the US to maintain and use the largest nuclear stockpile in the world? Yet they cry about Abdul Qadeer Khan and Iran with nukes with Israel having nukes right under their dirty noses.

US is also working in conjunction with India which is and should be a major concern for us. We should have made the terms of engagement clear. They should not have been allowed to sell weapons to India. There should have been some hard negotiation.

US people are extremely arrogant and haughty I must say. They are willing to justify every illegal war their country fought. I only believe an isolationist policy can give back the respect US had in its extremely formative stages