$50 million RoboTaliban and US army

[amalakas]

Both Fat Man and Little Boy did not destroyed Japan.

Gambit et al, I don't i feel comfortable with nukes falling in my neighbourhood guys. I think it is very very very bad.

 

[MasterMariner]

"In comparison, US forces overran Iraq in just 21 days. There is enormous technological gap between US and Iranian military forces. US will have no issues in destroying Iran" Original by LeGenD

May I ask in which World do you live? How enormous technological gap was there between US & Afghanistan? One side you have daisy cutters, on ther other side there were shoesless poor Afghanis with old AK-47. Isn't that true? then, where went all those advanced weapons and technology? That's where FAITH comes in. US is facing humiliating defeat at the hands of Taalibaan.

 

[Oldman1]

vietnam,korea,iraq n afghanistan?Lol

Iraq we won that war. Our intent was to get rid of Saddam. Vietnam we won the war because North Vietnam violated the peace treaty and invaded South Vietnam after American troops left. South Korea still exists so we won that war. Afghanistan the conflict is still on going.

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"In comparison, US forces overran Iraq in just 21 days. There is enormous technological gap between US and Iranian military forces. US will have no issues in destroying Iran" Original by LeGenD

May I ask in which World do you live? How enormous technological gap was there between US & Afghanistan? One side you have daisy cutters, on ther other side there were shoesless poor Afghanis with old AK-47. Isn't that true? then, where went all those advanced weapons and technology? That's where FAITH comes in. US is facing humiliating defeat at the hands of Taalibaan.

So you are saying that the Taliban could conquer Pakistan through faith? Scary. Blow up a mosque in Karachi and the war is already over.

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This analysis is simplistic, but economics are backbones for any army. Cant shrug off trillions spend when country is on the verge of bankruptcy. And lets not even go for humane side, in the last 60 years there is no more aggressive and brutal country than US.


Relative low loses are not just because of US capabilities, but also due to geography (most enemies cant strike back on US soil), and to even greater extent - choosing of weak opponents, AND coercing alies to participate in US wars. Do you think US would suffer low losses against China? Lets forget such superpowers, how about Iran? The blood would flow in rivers, from both sides.

The U.S. military tends to make sure the other side suffers heavier losses. China lost many during the Korean War. Ours was a drop in the bucket. If we go to war with China lets say the loss ratio will be about 500 to 1.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The U.S. military tends to make sure the other side suffers heavier losses. China lost many during the Korean War. Ours was a drop in the bucket. If we go to war with China lets say the loss ratio will be about 500 to 1.

lol, only in your dream old fella.

The US army will be lucky of having 1:1 ratio of casualty when fighting in our backyard.

 

[gambit]

Iraq we won that war. Our intent was to get rid of Saddam. Vietnam we won the war because North Vietnam violated the peace treaty and invaded South Vietnam after American troops left. South Korea still exists so we won that war. Afghanistan the conflict is still on going.

Humor these kids and let them have their fun. For the Chinese boys, they are conscript rejects so what do they know about the military other than what the Ministry of Propaganda tell them. For the Pakistanis, they are trying to deal with the fact that large swaths of Pakistan are not under the government's control and they are still smarting that the US can trespass their air sovereignty at our leisure. Just agree that militarily speaking, the US is a loser. No harm to US. If they want to believe a downed and bloodied boxer is the match's winner instead of the man standing, let them.

 

[Harry_Thomason]

Iran is just like another Iraq for USA. Remember Iran - Iraq war of 8 years? Iranians showed determination but that was not enough to win the war.

Iran defended their country against all odds, if thats not a win, what would be? Defending country and conquering Iraq at the same time?

Yes, under present circumstances, the objective of US would be to decisively defeat Iranian forces and leave. Under strong economic conditions, US can easily occpy Iran.

Thats not how it works, I wrote extensive analysis of potential invasion of Iran, but cant create new thread for some reason.

 

[Harry_Thomason]

lol, only in your dream old fella.

The US army will be lucky of having 1:1 ratio of casualty when fighting in our backyard.

To be fair, US has more advanced military, and due to fighting in your backyard, would mean civilians would die too, while US just military. So yes, China would have more casualties, but there is no way US could beat China.

 

[anon45]

To be fair, US has more advanced military, and due to fighting in your backyard, would mean civilians would die too, while US just military. So yes, China would have more casualties, but there is no way US could beat China.

What's the standard for US victory? Breaking of China into multiple warring states? Annexation? Outright extermination?

If its simply keeping China's navy for the most part in their ports or thwarting an invasion of Taiwan that doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility. It's discussable in anycase.

 

[Harry_Thomason]

What's the standard for US victory? Breaking of China into multiple warring states? Annexation? Outright extermination?

If its simply keeping China's navy for the most part in their ports or thwarting an invasion of Taiwan that doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility. It's discussable in anycase.

By victory I mean China's surrender, and US installing there permanent puppet regime. Its not going to happen Your 2nd point wont happen either. China strength is increasing exponentially, while US is regressing, even more - China has US economy by the balls too.

 

[gambit]

What's the standard for US victory? Breaking of China into multiple warring states? Annexation? Outright extermination?

If its simply keeping China's navy for the most part in their ports or thwarting an invasion of Taiwan that doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility. It's discussable in anycase.

These kids does not understand the very old principle that political goals determine military objectives and that not just US but every power violated that principle one time or another. But for this 'discussion', the bar is set the highest for US and lowest for everyone else.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

To be fair, US has more advanced military, and due to fighting in your backyard, would mean civilians would die too, while US just military. So yes, China would have more casualties, but there is no way US could beat China.

We will suffer the civilian casualties, but the US will lose most of its naval assets.

 

[Harry_Thomason]

We will suffer the civilian casualties, but the US will lose most of its naval assets.

Of course, US doesnt even have protection against DF-21D.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Of course, US doesnt even have protection against DF-21D.

The DF-21D ASBM is just the tip of the iceberg, and we even have more formidable killers which haven't been revealed.

 

[gambit]

Of course, US doesnt even have protection against DF-21D.

You are -- of course -- wrong. The DF-21D has been discussed here before and the system's vulnerabilities pointed out.

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The DF-21D ASBM is just the tip of the iceberg, and we even have more formidable killers which haven't been revealed.

You mean not yet Photochopped.

 

[The Vicious Kind]

Iraq we won that war. Our intent was to get rid of Saddam. Vietnam we won the war because North Vietnam violated the peace treaty and invaded South Vietnam after American troops left. South Korea still exists so we won that war. Afghanistan the conflict is still on going.

Maybe you need to learn a little history.
yeah you toppled saddam and left a more hostile pro-iranian iraq,so in the long run ,it doesnt count.In the vietnam war you lost,north vietam successfully invaded and annexed south vietnam .Korea war was a stale mate since both UN invasion of North Korea and then finally the Chinese invasion were repelled.In afghanistan,although the US has gained success in eliminating the alqaeda threat,but on the other hand the CION operations against the taliban have been counter productive and on top of that you have placed a corrupt northern alliance government.
win for the defence corporations and the oil corporations but the american taxpayers have truly lost.