50,000 Baloch "Freedom Fighters" ready to liberate Indian illegally occupied Kashmir

[SIPRA]

Time for a fight will come most definitely, but it is not today. India wants a ludicrous and deperate response from us but we shall not give in to temptation.

Before advancing on IOK one of the following conditions should be fulfilled;

- Has India crossed the LOC yet? No.
- Has the large scale massacre of locals started yet? No.
- Has state-sponsored mob violence against the Muslims been observed yet? No.

In addition, we would need to know if our invasion on behalf of the locals, is what they want at this point in time because right timing is the key that unlocks the path to a decisive victory which is the only outcome we want. We cannot afford half-assed incursions like the past.

Ladakh has been carved out as a Non-Muslim majority Union territory. India can keep it for now. Our immediate focus is now J&K. Conquering the land piece by piece instead of biting more than we could chew. Later, Ladakh can be liberated with the help of the Chinese.

The first order of business of Hindutva's is to fulfil the long-awaited dream of populating J&K with Hindus but they will find it difficult in the beginning because most would need assurance of security and peace which is still elusive. They would have to open the gates and make the transition for the outsider easier. This presents a window of opportunity for our intel assets. The ethnically diverse populace is easier to infiltrate and blend in with.

Secondly, after enough of Hinduwadis settles in, state-sanctioned mob violence against Muslims will certainly commence. Once our insiders give the green light that the locals are ready for the "do or die", only then would be the time to strike.

Right now Pakistan needs to replenish its arsenal along with re-grouping and re-arming the friendly militants whom would be the tip of the spear in the battles to come. For that, the Afghan peace process takes precedence over other matters.

Full agree, though, at the moment, you are a minority opinion, among Pakistani posters, who are rattling their imaginary sabers.

 

[shah_123]

@Oscar said that population can't take war.

 

[@RV]

Hold on your high horse's guys and think rationally. You aren't in a position to start a direct war with India. An unorganized fighting force, however large, has zero to no chance of winning a defending regular army or much lesser size and here we are discussing about a larger defending Army.

If anyone goes by this thread's route, here is a sample story how it will pan out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Longewala

 

[CodeforFood]

Most here are immature emotional warmongers. U guys acting as if kashmir was with us n they took it by force lolz. Changing statuses n names changes nothing on the ground. Im disappointed in how stupid the general reaction of ppl have been to this.

india is following the palestine playbook.. lets make sure pakistan does not play Egypt

 

[Av8er]

I hate myself for saying this, but the pieces are not in place for Pakistan to fight a war, it just isn't.[/QUOTE

Wars are never based on convenience!! But this time Indians should be made to pay!

 

[TNT]

Do you even remotely understand what it means before putting your wise words on computer and calling others stupid????

I understand it far better than these kids here. Didnt we change status of GB? Should india have gone to war with us for that? Only idiots react militarily to political stunts. It changes nothing on the ground, no hindu can go live among kashmiris. If anything, it gave advantage to kashmiri movement, even sikhs are rising up. This highlighted kashmir around the world.
If taking kashmir militarily was possible, Pakistan would have done it long ago. There was one chance in 1948 and our army blew it.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Might be. But TBH Pakistan can't afford to openly support a proxy way yet again. It's a matter of another discussion if PA/GoP declare a war and the volunteers come in the picture. But other than that scenario the entire world perception will b against Pakistan, remember FATF is keeping a close watch and Pakistan can't afford to be blacklisted or even remain in this Grey List for longer period given your economic condition.

Read again .

 

[Tom M]

Read again .

Again, tbh can't you guy's understand this policy of Pakistan is/was a flawed one ?? It did more harm to Pakistan's claim and Kashmir's narrative together. I sincerely think a peaceful agitation over a period of many years will never go unnoticed around the globe. It would have had much more impact.

A classic example is currently happening in Hong Kong. You or anyone can think or act otherwise, but still this is what I strongly believe.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Again, tbh can't you guy's understand this policy of Pakistan is/was a flawed one ?? It did more harm to Pakistan's claim and Kashmir's narrative together. I sincerely think a peaceful agitation over a period of many years will never go unnoticed around the globe. It would have had much more impact.

A classic example is currently happening in Hong Kong. You or anyone can think or act otherwise, but still this is what I strongly believe.

Read my post again, I am not talking about insurgency, I am talking about in case of WAR, these Pakistani's will be Join PA to fight and perform other duties along the border .

 

[Meengla]

Time for a fight will come most definitely, but it is not today. India wants a ludicrous and deperate response from us but we shall not give in to temptation.

Before advancing on IOK one of the following conditions should be fulfilled;

- Has India crossed the LOC yet? No.
- Has the large scale massacre of locals started yet? No.
- Has state-sponsored mob violence against the Muslims been observed yet? No.

In addition, we would need to know if our invasion on behalf of the locals, is what they want at this point in time because right timing is the key that unlocks the path to a decisive victory which is the only outcome we want. We cannot afford half-assed incursions like the past.

Ladakh has been carved out as a Non-Muslim majority Union territory. India can keep it for now. Our immediate focus is now J&K. Conquering the land piece by piece instead of biting more than we could chew. Later, Ladakh can be liberated with the help of the Chinese.

The first order of business of Hindutva's is to fulfil the long-awaited dream of populating J&K with Hindus but they will find it difficult in the beginning because most would need assurance of security and peace which is still elusive. They would have to open the gates and make the transition for the outsider easier. This presents a window of opportunity for our intel assets. The ethnically diverse populace is easier to infiltrate and blend in with.

Secondly, after enough of Hinduwadis settles in, state-sanctioned mob violence against Muslims will certainly commence. Once our insiders give the green light that the locals are ready for the "do or die", only then would be the time to strike.

Right now Pakistan needs to replenish its arsenal along with re-grouping and re-arming the friendly militants whom would be the tip of the spear in the battles to come. For that, the Afghan peace process takes precedence over other matters.

Good post. Should just close the thread on this.
Just a few parting comments. India will find it very hard to hold on to Kashmir if Pakistan really reactivates the guerrilla war, which has been largely stopped since 2004/5. And that's because--as many Indians would say themselves--the local population is even more alienated and they would provide support and happily join. Imagine Pulwana's on daily/weekly basis?
We are going to have to wait and see. It's also entirely likely the Indian Supreme Court will reject this change of Kashmir's status. But, as I said in another post, for some reasons I am glad that India has taken this step and committed the folly. If this is the Indian dream that they can do a West Bank in the Kashmir Valley then they are almost certainly going to be very disappointed and bruised.

 

[Tom M]

Read my post again, I am not talking about insurgency, I am talking about in case of WAR, these Pakistani's will be Join PA to fight and perform other duties along the border .

And what makes you think India will not find enough volunteers like the ones you mentioned about Pakistan ???

 

[YeBeWarned]

And what makes you think India will not find enough volunteers like the ones you mentioned about Pakistan ???

Did i mention India ? do you even comprehend basic stuff ?

 

[Super Falcon]

Pak should start a war and you see muslims from all over run to help they will stop in syria yemen millions join and teach lesson to india islam muslims are bigger than countries and continents

 

[rizhussain44]

I know, but we can not take Kashmir by force, IA has nukes and if they see Kashmir falling they will blackmail world to hold a cease fire and forces to withdraw to their previous position . The only solution is via dialog .

If the Kashmir is falling and India wants a truce then at that time we can dialogue with India from a position of strength, then we will have a leverage. Right now you have no leverage to even bring them to table to start a dialogue.

 

[Crusher]

Pak should start a war and you see muslims from all over run to help they will stop in syria yemen millions join and teach lesson to india islam muslims are bigger than countries and continents

We don't need any ***** "muslims" to come to our land to help us, Pakistan is 220 million strong nation and fully capable of fighting its own wars with its own manpower.