5 Most Powerful Muslim Countries

[KingMamba]

Central Asian Turkics got conquered. We Turks weren't conquered. That is why Turkey is strongest Turkic country and we will rebuit the legacy of Atilla, Babur Han, Alp Aslan, Genghis Khan, Chagatai Han, etc.

What separates you from the Central Asian Turkics besides the fact that you guys moved west? Genghis Khan was a Mongol not a Turk and his horde conquered the Seljuks.

 

[The SC]

IMO:
1)Turkey, Iran: Turkey has a more reasonable and stable regime, and Iran has more resources, like oil, gas, ....
2)Egypt, Pakistan: They have huge problems with their high population and low living standards, but, both of them have very strong armies. I saw that Egypt is pretty underestimated in the thread which it is not fair.
3)Saudi, Indonesia: they have pretty good economies, but specially Saudi economy is mostly a gas station economy and highly dependent on oil , and its prices.
4)Malaysia, Morocco, Algeria, Iraq, BD, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan

Algeria is militarily underrated in you rating, it has very sophisticated weapon systems and has build a modern and capable army.
Where is Indonesia guys?

 

[thasti_phasti]

On op and other posts, I don't know what is the criteria ? are we talking about military ? economy ? everything ?

I think having a mass destruction weapon that you will most likely never use should not be taken that seriously, I mean so what if N. Korea gets Nukes ? how it will surpass South in anyway ?

@atatwolf stop

You are missing the point of having nukes. There is a reason Iran has crashed its economy despite so much oil, gas just to get nukes which he may never get. While Pakistan is ''accepted'' nuclear power without any sanctions. I doubt any country will turn away from having nuclear detterence plus no sanctions.

Though Turkey is number 1 no doubt about it.

 

[atatwolf]

What separates you from the Central Asian Turkics besides the fact that you guys moved west? Genghis Khan was a Mongol not a Turk and his horde conquered the Seljuks.

Genghis Khan is one of us. He only captured the Ottoman sultan. It was a family fight. Turkic and Mongol peoples conquered each other. But Turkish people were never conquered the same way Inda (Pakistan) where conquered by Brits for example.

 

[KingMamba]

Genghis Khan is one of us. He only captured the Ottoman sultan. It was a family fight. Turkic and Mongol peoples conquered each other. But Turkish people were never conquered the same way Inda (Pakistan) where conquered by Brits for example.

Ok what about Persian conquest of Central Asia?

 

[jarves]

Hindu in plural Hindus, add hindouva now, the va from Israel.
If you ask me personally, I find most Hindous nice, but with an agenda, if they knew you are a Muslim. Maybe due to the "bad" experiences with Muslim invasions in the past. Although I do not call them invasions, since the Muslims only responded to threats in every "invasion" depicted by western media. They used to ask other people to join them and evaluate their responses starting with other Arabs first in the beginning of Islam. It happened with the Romans, the Persians, the Europeans and with India, since they did not accept a message of peace and were rather arrogant by ignorance, they mobilized and sent huge armies to fight the Muslims who had no intention of war in the first place, but were hoping of peace for all and wishing others will join them in this peaceful frame of mind. To the Muslim's surprise most of the time, the answers stemmed from ignorance and bad faith, and the message of peace was interpreted as a threat by ignorant and violent populace, who were like the Arabs themselves before the coming of Islam, just warring amongst themselves and against anything else.
So Islam was intended as an evolution in thought and deed for animal like humans living by the laws of the jungle up till now.

Thanks for the laugh what you said is clearly laughable in India' case maybe it could be true in other's case but not of India's.

 

[nForce]

OK if that is your definition and Turks agree with it then I agree as well they are not a Muslim nation. So then it is between Pakistan and Iran for 1-2 spot.

That's THE definition...its not a matter of perspective.

 

[The SC]

Thanks for the laugh what you said is clearly laughable in India' case maybe it could be true in other's case but not of India's.

You sentence does not make sense as an answer. Why India was an exception? The Muslim armies just choosed India and went to attack it.
You can see the truth concerning others but not in your case, you were the light of this world and Muslims came to distinguish it. your answer sounds like this. If India had the slightest ray of light at that time it would have joined Islam with open heart.
Even 3/4 of Gingis Khan Khanates joined Islam after his death, and even he was closer to Islam than to any other religion, since he tried many other religions himself. The Son of the king of Persia killed his own father for fighting Islam, and made Persia to embrace it open heartedly, Christian underdogs all over Christian kingdoms came to implore Muslims to hep them end Tyranny, and you were the only exception, can you please elaborate.

 

[jarves]

You sentence does not make sense as an answer. Why India was an exception? The Muslim armies just choosed India and went to attack it.

Thats exactly what i am saying but you were bullshitting about peace and stuff.

You can see the truth concerning others but not in your case, you were the light of this world and Muslims came to distinguish it. your answer sounds like this. If India had the slightest ray of light at that time it would have joined Islam with open heart.
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What you are talking about?? What is this ray of light.

Shoulld i explain you in detail the history of India??

 

[Seaman]

there were 17% moslim in India at 2001 census...now its reduced to 9 to10 %........ie it might be about10 crore people against95 crore Hindus ...offcourse iindia is not a moslim power.....

 

[The SC]

You are missing the point of having nukes. There is a reason Iran has crashed its economy despite so much oil, gas just to get nukes which he may never get. While Pakistan is ''accepted'' nuclear power without any sanctions. I doubt any country will turn away from having nuclear detterence plus no sanctions.

Though Turkey is number 1 no doubt about it.

Well examples are numerous of nations turning away from having nukes although they master the nuclear cycle, Germany and the Scandinavians had a working design and did not make any nukes.
the truth is that if Iran ever crashed its economy like you have said, it is because of the nuclear cycle for civilian purposes not for a nuclear bomb. I think if Iran wanted nuclear weapons by all means, it had the means to acquire them more so than Pakistan.
But since it has no direct threat like Pakistan had from India, apart from Israel that Iran considers too feeble for it to pose any kind of threat. Iran is going for the civilian nuclear technology to be independent in its energy needs as well as in the nuclear medicine field, plus research and development.
So in reality the nuclear technology is like a knife , it is necessary in the kitchen, but some people can use it for harmful purposes.
If your neighbor is brandishing a knife from his kitchen as weapon, you might think about yours for defensive purposes, this the case of Pakistan. while For Iran the only one that might brandish a knife is a mosquito full of bluffs and is 1000th of the size of the knife, so that is no credible threat, and the conclusion was, no need for nuclear weapons.

 

[Gaber]

If we look at Global Firepower rank than it should be...
1. Turkey
2. Egypt
3. Pakistan
4. Indonesia
5. Iran

IMO
1. Turkey
2. Pakistan
3. Iran
4. Egypt
5. Saudi Arabia

 

[Falcon29]

Well examples are numerous of nations turning away from having nukes although they master the nuclear cycle, Germany and the Scandinavians had a working design and did not make any nukes.
the truth is that if Iran ever crashed its economy like you have said, it is because of the nuclear cycle for civilian purposes not for a nuclear bomb. I think if Iran wanted nuclear weapons by all means, it had the means to acquire them more so than Pakistan.
But since it has no direct threat like Pakistan had from India, apart from Israel that Iran considers too feeble for it to pose any kind of threat. Iran is going for the civilian nuclear technology to be independent in its energy needs as well as in the nuclear medicine field, plus research and development.
So in reality the nuclear technology is like a knife , it is necessary in the kitchen, but some people can use it for harmful purposes.
If your neighbor is brandishing a knife from his kitchen as weapon, you might think about yours for defensive purposes, this the case of Pakistan. while For Iran the only one that might brandish a knife is a mosquito full of bluffs and is 1000th of the size of the knife, so that is no credible threat, and the conclusion was, no need for nuclear weapons.

Iran considers Israel what?

 

[The SC]

Thats exactly what i am saying but you were bullshitting about peace and stuff.

What you are talking about?? What is this ray of light.

Shoulld i explain you in detail the history of India??

That is no bullshit, it was about peace with one self and peace with others, the only bullshit was India, you can not grasp the essence of the word Islam can you?
Do not need the history of India, I know the causes of the Muslim " invasion " and its traces left in India are the best India has to show up till now.
Indian heritage, I do not know much more than some indigenous Pornography carved on stone, and so many Gods.
you can bring up anything you would like from the Upanishads or any other scripture, they just lack credibility in science methodologies and fail the tests of fidelity in time and validity in space-time. please do not take it as an insult, and try to use proper English with me, since I am not fond of vulgarities.

 

[MOHSENAM]

1- IRAN: superpower, full independence,own nukes, Fastest scientific growth in whole of the world compared to any country(scientific output has grown 11 times faster in Iran than the world average)

united country , clear-eyed , supreme leadership (valie vaghih) , leader with impartial sage and bravery , 20 million basiji forces , one of the safest countries in the world , very very very strong forces inside the country
parliament democracy election and Islam
very high culture and shia belief
Full hands from farest Afghanistan to Palestine Africa , venezuela and …
Has china and north korea as points
full Independent and very strong army
full self-maded country
good relation with Europe

full independence economy
one of the top 20 economies(17) in the world despite the heaviest US sanctions
Persian gulf and caspian sea and...
Full self industry ,sciences and one of the top 10 in the world...
has oil for 50 years and Gas for 120 years.(the most oil and gas in the world)
Huge country with all forms of nature, flourishing, mountainous ...
One of the best lands in the world
Country with every kind of weather vegetable and fruit
not puppet of any country
can export Gas and oil everywhere


2.Indonesia
Developing country
Good economy
High population


3.Turkey

Strong economy
Good relation with Europe and USA
Good army
Flourishing country with good trading



4.Egypt

Strong army
high population
Developing country
Good future


5.Pakistan

Population
strong economy
flourishing country
strong army
China at the back



6.Saudi

Much oil
american equipments
developing

7.Iraq

big country
much oil and gas
good economy
developing country
a bit shia Independence


8.Syria

very strong army
united country
have oil
Good relation with Iran Russia china and...
developing country after war
very good geopolitical position