5 Feb Kashmir Day

[Sine Nomine]

china about 10%= 38,000 sq. kms of land (Aksai Chin and Trans-Karakoram Tract).
This map shows a huge chunk of Land being owned by china what will Pakistan do if India Hands over J&k to Pakistan,what will Pakistan do about land under Chinese occupation.
1)Pakistan doe's nothing about that land then only claiming IOK seems hypocrisy.
2)If it claims then what will happen to sino-pak friendship.

 

[Bagha]

One question.
If Pakistan was so serious about Kashmir , then why did it cede a part of Kashmir to China ?
Why ?
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[WAJsal]

One question.
If Pakistan was so serious about Kashmir , then why did it cede a part of Kashmir to China ?
Why ?

Did we ,last time i checked China beat the shit out of you and claimed it.

 

[Yousafzai_M]

If I remember correctly, the part disputed between Pakistan and China is to be resolved once the Pakistan-India dispute is resolved. I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[Bagha]

Did we ,last time i checked China beat the shit out of you and claimed it.

It was the Aksai Chin area.
Yes , we got defeated in 1962. It was a huge strategic blunder and we simply got outnumbered there. But that won't be repeated . This has been discussed to death.
Now let us discuss something else. Why did you gift those lands to China ?

If I remember correctly, the part disputed between Pakistan and China is to be resolved once the Pakistan-India dispute is resolved. I wouldn't worry about it.

It wont be. Thank you . You can't take back what you gifted.

 

[Hammaad Khan]

Question: Why does China want Askai Chin anyway? I mean Kashmir has lots of strategic importance for Pakistan and India, but how for China?

 

[WAJsal]

It was the Aksai Chin area.
Yes , we got defeated in 1962. It was a huge strategic blunder and we simply got outnumbered there. But that won't be repeated . This has been discussed to death.
Now let us discuss something else. Why did you gift those lands to China ?

China had claimed it,back then we weren't even good allies.What did you expect us to do,fight the Chinese?,you have got to be kidding me.FYI this tpic has been discussed to death too.

Question: Why does China want Askai Chin anyway? I mean Kashmir has lots of strategic importance for Pakistan and India, but how for China?

They had claims over it and you know what followed next.

 

[Bagha]

Question: Why does China want Askai Chin anyway? I mean Kashmir has lots of strategic importance for Pakistan and India, but how for China?

Controlling higher ground have its strategic importance, like Siachen.
BTW we are not discussing Aksai Chin here but the area which Pakistan gifted to China.

 

[raja hindustani]

Did we ,last time i checked China beat the shit out of you and claimed it.

You are right, they did beat the crap out of us. But at least we fought and didn't hand over a part of the territory on a platter to our higher than Himalaya friends.
On topic: China is not going to return any land to Pakistan and neither is India going to back away from Kashmir. Pakistanis have named their side 'Azad Kashmir'. Why is it not an independent state already? Why haven't they conducted a referendum on their side to show that they are serious about Kashmir's freedom?

 

[doppelganger]

Eventually, they will cede GB to their Chinese overlords, if they ask for it. Only Indian Kashmir stands in the way of the Chinese actually doing so.

They have burned their bridges with the Americans. Making slow overtures to the Russians. They would be really stupid to mess with the Chinese.

 

[Bagha]

China had claimed it,back then we weren't even good allies.What did you expect us to do,fight the Chinese?,you have got to be kidding me.FYI this tpic has been discussed to death too.


They had claims over it and you know what followed next.

So you are saying that Pakistan is not so interested about Kashmir ? It's just a bargaining chip ?
If someone claims it you'll give the whole thing to them ?
India is serious about Kashmir.
Even Vietnam stands firmly against China, but look at Pakistan. What a pity.

 

[WAJsal]

India going to back away from Kashmir. Pakistanis have named their side 'Azad Kashmir'. Why is it not an independent state already? Why haven't they conducted a referendum on their side to show that they are serious about the Kashmir's freedom?

Azad Kashmir from India,genius.Why should we conduct a referendum,it should be done on your side considering it what Kashmiris on your side want!

Eventually, they will cede GB to their Chinese overlords, if they ask for it. Only Indian Kashmir stands in the way of the Chinese actually doing so.

They have burned their bridges with the Americans. Making slow overtures to the Russians. They would be really stupid to mess with the Chinese.

GB ain't going no where,keep that in mind.

 

[unbiasedopinion]

On topic China is not going to return any land to Pakistan and neither is India going to back away from Kashmir. Pakistanis have named their side 'Azad Kashmir'. Why is it not an independent state already? Why haven't they conducted a referendum on their side to show that they are serious about the Kashmir's freedom?

That too only a tiny strip which was only some % of the Princely Kashmir territory. Their so called sympathy towards KAshmir is just crocodile tears to keep India engaged and satisfy their false ego of taking revenge from India of 1971.

Mind it, the NA was part of original princely state and India has a claim on it not just the azad kashmir. I guess it is time for India to raise this point more voicefully in our meeting with Pakistan's government (whenever it happens).

 

[WAJsal]

So you are saying that Pakistan is not so interested about Kashmir ? It's just a bargaining chip ?
If someone claims it you'll give the whole thing to them ?
India is serious about Kashmir.
Even Vietnam stands firmly against China, but look at Pakistan. What a pity.

What should have we done and could have? we didn't want to share the same fate as you .

 

[Sine Nomine]

That too only a tiny strip which was only some % of the Princely Kashmir territory. Their so called sympathy towards KAshmir is just crocodile tears to keep India engaged and satisfy their false ego of taking revenge from India of 1971.

Dispute was present before 1971..