47 confirmed dead, over 50 wounded as huge blast rocks Karachi

[Bull]

Very true neo, now they are mentioning the MQM as responsible for the Blast. I wouldnt be too surprised if this were true. The MQM has had RAW links from its very onset. they get their weapons and training directly from india. Maybe this was another attempt to portray Karachi as a hot bed of violence especially when there have been chaotic events in india such as that fire in mee rat in which a 150 indians died and true to form, they blamed it on the ISI...

when was the meerut blaze blamed on ISIdo u hv anything to substantiate ur claims......mod alert!!!he is trying to flame and ignite passions by making such ridiculous claims.

 

[sword9]

Jana....its a pattern sir... RAW bombing the hindian parliment building....the agosta bombing, the consulate attack, the attacks in Balochistan, the bombing in Karachi......the attacks on chinese engineers.....all work of RAW.

Golly good. I hope that showes you how capable the super spooks in RAW are. We will surely pull the carpet under your feet.

-Rest edited due to being offtopic.

 

[SMC]

Golly good. I hope that showes you how capable the super spooks in RAW are. We will surely pull the carpet under your feet.

So you do agree that India funds terrorism as well as does terrorism itself to achieve its goals. So now you should go tell your countrymen that your government is not as innocent as they think. Also tell them that India doesn't just fund terrorism and does terrorism itself on small scale, it does it on large scale.

 

[Zeeshan S.]

MQM is not so stupid to engage in this stuff, it is only a political game which MMA is taking chance to make the MQM look bad. MQM is no way what it is used to be, it DOESNT! get the training or weapons from India at all! It is no way affiliated with India or RAW agents.

 

[sword9]

Golly good. I hope that showes you how capable the super spooks in RAW are. We will surely pull the carpet under your feet.

So you do agree that India funds terrorism as well as does terrorism itself to achieve its goals. So now you should go tell your countrymen that your government is not as innocent as they think. Also tell them that India doesn't just fund terrorism and does terrorism itself on small scale, it does it on large scale.

My response was for the forum delinquent.
My good man before getting worked up, please remember the n-number of ISI sponsored bomb blasts in India and the scores of innocent civilians killed. Now if one feels that it is India's handy work then may be India is just returning similar favours bestowed on it.

That being said, killing a moderate islamic leadership is not in our favour, there are scores of madhatters that we would have liked to target, and even Pakistan would have loved getting rid of them.

 

[SMC]

Well instead of India returning favours, I think it was ISI returning favours for the bomb blasts that have occured in Pakistan like the Sheraton Hotel bombing that killed the French engineers who were engineering the Augosta submarines, US consulate bombing and various bomb blasts throughout the 1990s.

 

[sword9]

Well instead of India returning favours, I think it was ISI returning favours for the bomb blasts that have occured in Pakistan like the Sheraton Hotel bombing that killed the French engineers who were engineering the Augosta submarines, US consulate bombing and various bomb blasts throughout the 1990s.

Again you are blaming India without ay basis when your own agencies have already arrested and tried the culprits from a hardline islamic group. I am sure these agencies are not made up of nitwits but professionals.
Do you ever stop to think as to why an islamic group would harm an islamic Pakistan? The answers may lie in the fact that pulling out support from the Taliban has irked many from the Al Qaida brigade and hence the French were attacked.
The Killing of Chinese muslim Uighur militants on China's request was also taken as a betrayal by many hardline jihadi groups, hence the targeting Chinese engineers by them.

Look inward and you shall find the answers.

....bombing and various bomb blasts throughout the 1990s.

Pakistan started it by using the Dawood gang for the Bombay serial blasts. A phrase comes to mind - "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time"

 

[RAPTOR]

Pakistan started it by using the Dawood gang for the Bombay serial blasts. A phrase comes to mind - "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time"

Again..the ******** blame Pakistan for something that was an internal matter of HINDUstan. The bombay blasts were a direct result of the killing of innocent moslems by fanatic trishul carrying hindu mobs gone nuts! It was a result of the destruction of the Babri Mosque by hindu terrorists who were supported by india's hindu fundamentalist government.

Pakistan had nothing to do with it and these fairy tales spun by ******** about ISI being behind it are just plain DUMB. :crazy2:

 

[sword9]

I can post a good article by Ghulam Hasnain "Karachi's Gang Wars" I hope the mods don't delete it like the other ones. The weblink below is as cached version from my personal database.
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:Q1L8bKL5Xh4J:www.newsline.com.pk/NewsSept2001/coverstory1.htm+%22Dawood+Ibrahim%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6
Karachi’s Gang Wars
By Ghulam Hasnain

Portrait of a Don
It was the normal afternoon traffic rush on the Malir road. As a prison van slowed down before the Malir Bridge, several armed men who were lying in wait on both sides of the bridge, showered it with a hail of Kalashnikov bullets. The shooting was so intense that none of the 10 policemen who were escorting underworld gangster, Shoaib Khan aka Shoaib Rummy walla, back to prison got a chance to even fire back. The lightning attack left four policemen dead, while Karachi's top gambling den operator, Shoaib Khan, two pedestrians and four other policemen received multiple bullet wounds. Their mission accomplished, the attackers left unhurriedly in waiting cars watched by horrified motorists. A few hours later, the police found the abandoned vehicles in nearby villages.

Senior police officials believe the attack was carried out by the Haji Ibrahim Bholoo group. Bholoo, Shoaib’s former business partner, has been missing since January this year and Shoaib is being held responsible for Ibrahim Bholoo's disappearance and possible murder.

Karachi’s two rival underworld gangs, both working for the notorious Mumbai don, Dawood Ibrahim, are now settling their scores on the streets of Karachi. Dawood Ibrahim and his team, Mumbai's notorious underworld clan including his righthand man Chota Shakeel and Jamal Memon, are on India’s most wanted list for a series of bomb blasts in Mumbai and other criminal activites. After the 1993 Mumbai bomb blasts, the gang have made Karachi their new home and base of operations. Living under fake names and IDs, and provided protection by government agencies, they have built up their underworld empire in Karachi employing local talent like Shoaib and Bholoo.

Both Shoaib Khan and Ibrahim Bholoo started their careers from the slums of Karachi, a perfect environment for any wannabe gangster. Within a few years their underworld activities took them and their families from the slums to palatial houses in Karachi’s Defence Housing Authority. The two small-time gangsters struck gold when they got in touch with the notorious Dawood Ibrahim, five or six years ago and started working for him in Karachi. From petty crimes they moved into the realm of big-time underworld operations and contract killings in Karachi and abroad.

Shoaib Khan ran a number of gambling dens in Karachi, a line he was familiar with, as his father Akhtar Ali Khan, was a satta operator and gambler in Liaquatabad. Even though Shoaib is now in custody, his gambling dens continue to operate in the city, with the biggest gambling den located in the Hockey Stadium. In the mid '90s Shoaib started a gambling den in Dubai. It was in Dubai that Shoaib made contact with Dawood through their mutual passion for gambling. Both men became friends and Shoaib took over Dawood's extortion operation in Karachi. Then in 1998, Shoaib allegedly murdered a Pakistani businessman, Irfan Goga, who had won a lot of money gambling in Shoaib's den in Dubai. Irfan's body was never recovered but his abandoned car was found in the parking lot in Dubai airport. Goga's family accused Shoaib of the murder, but before warrants could be issued, Shoaib fled to Pakistan. Dawood also knew Irfan and reportedly when he questioned Shoaib about the killing, he told Dawood that he killed Irfan because he had been abusing Dawood, something Shoaib found impossible to accept. Shoaib soon acquired a reputation for not honouring his financial commitments both in his gambling operations and otherwise.

Haji Ibrahim, alias Bholoo, was a People's Party worker and a good friend of Najeeb Ahmed, a top PSF activist, as well as other Peoples Party activists. In the early '90s he left for South Africa, where he amassed a small fortune in drugs, hawala and smuggling. Then he met Shoaib in Dubai and became his business partner. Dawood Ibrahim too had extensive drug operations in South Africa. So it was inevitable that Bholoo joined hands with Dawood Ibrahim, serving as his agent in South Africa.

Bholoo was a known contract killer. His name shot into the limelight when the mutilated body of Karachi’s top bookie, Hanif Kodvavi alias Hanif Cadbury, was found in Johannesberg in 1999. Hanif had fled to South Africa after a dispute with Dawood over the payment of 800 million rupees of bet money, which Dawood apparently lost in the Sharjah Cup matches. Though Dawood and his men deny they have anything to do with Hanif Cadbury or his murder, Ibrahim Bholoo’s name has been associated with carrying out the contract killing of Hanif Cadbury in South Africa for Dawood Ibrahim.

Hostilities between Bholoo and Shoaib surfaced last year, when Shoaib asked Bholoo to arrange hit men to eliminate Dawood Ibrahim’s arch enemy, Chota Rajan. Till the Mumbai blasts, Chota Rajan was Dawood’s right hand man. After the blasts, however, he defected and formed his own group, and ganged up with RAW to hit the business interests of his former Godfather.

Insiders claim that Bholoo, who in the past had carried out a number of contract killings for Dawood Ibrahim, immediately arranged for three activists of the now defunct Al-Zulfikar organisation to eliminate Chota Rajan. The three who were wanted in several criminal cases in Pakistan, were assured of protection and a generous pay-off if they carried out the hit on Rajan. The team of assassins from Pakistan, backed by some former Pakistani undercover agents, left for Bangkok to trace and eliminate Dawood’s top foe. The Pakistani hit team succeeded in tracking down Chota Rajan who was then staying in the apartment of one of his trusted friends in a fashionable Bangkok district. The team attacked in a style similar to blockbuster Indian movies. Armed with automatic weapons and wearing ties and jackets the hit team reached the upmarket apartment building carrying a cake, giving the impression to the security at the gate that they had come to celebrate Rajan's birthday. The hit team burst into the apartment and against the underworld rule of never killing women and children, fired at the wife of Rajan's top hitman, Rohit Verma. When she tried to save her husband, both Rohit and his wife were killed. Rajan locked himself in the bathroom but was injured when the team sprayed the door with bullets. Rajan managed to slip out of the bathroom window, and hid himself in a nearby garbage dump till the police came to his rescue. He later slipped out from a Bangkok hospital after bribing the police officers who had been deputed to guard him and disappeared.

When the team returned to Karachi, Shoaib antagonised Bholoo by refusing to honour his commitment to pay the three Al-Zulfikar assassins their fee. Bholoo, who could not refuse to pay his former party comrades, paid them from his own pocket.


On January 8, Ibrahim Bholoo, visited the Defence residence of Shoaib Khan to settle another monetary dispute involving 700,000 dollars and was never seen again. Senior police officers suspect that Bholoo is already dead, though they have yet to find his remains.

Since then, the Bholoo group have been gunning for Shoaib who, moving under heavy security, consistently managed to escape the Bholoo boys. Two controversial Karachi police officials, SHO Anwar Khan and Chaudhry Aslam, have also allegedly joined the Bholoo group, to help them get Shoaib. While in South Africa, Bholoo was a key informant for the Karachi police on the activities of MQM activists taking refuge in South Africa. He was constantly feeding information to SHO Anwar Khan and Chaudhry Aslam, who were in the forefront of the army crackdown against the MQM. "When Bholoo disappeared, we thought it was our moral and ethical responsibility to help out his family," said Anwar Khan. Bholoo's family had several meetings with Dawood Ibrahim to seek his help in convincing Shoaib to divulge Bholoo's whereabouts.....

 

[sword9]

....continued.
Shoaib, who still had the support of Dawood Ibrahim, continued to escape arrest. Then on February 21, 2001, the situation changed. There was a shooting incident on the premises of the City Courts, where armed guards from the two rival groups exchanged fire. Shoaib, who had applied for a temporary bail before arrest warrant in Bholoo's kidnapping case from Sukkur, had come to the court to get his bail confirmed. He was escorted by ranger personnel and several armed men. Bholoo's men were waiting. Both the rangers as well as Shoaib's armed guards fired at Bholoo's supporters, who they feared might force Shoaib's arrest after lawyers told Shoaib that his bail may not be confirmed. The seven ranger personnel led by Major Abdul Majeed of Janbaz Force in Thatta and Major Tariq Hameed of Karachi, are now facing a court martial. They were reported to be regular visitors at mujra performances at Shoaib's den. On the day of the shooting at the City Court, the team of rangers apparently left their headquarters on some pretext to accompany Shoaib for his protection.

The incident forced the government to finally intervene and undercover agents approached Dawood and asked him to stop backing Shoaib. It worked and on June 14, Shoaib surrendered himself to the authorities. "Dawood was told that Karachi was not Mumbai. We told him to stop supporting Shoaib because he had killed an innocent man,” said an inside source.

So far Karachi was infamous for ethnic and sectarian killing. But the arrival of underworld mega-bucks has brought a new dimension to the city’s crime profile as warring gangs fight pitched battles on Karachi’s streets. With Dawood Ibrahim operating out of Karachi, with the apparent blessings of the government, the Shoaib incident might well be the first of a series of Mumbai-style mafia wars.

End of article.

 

[RAPTOR]

What a waste of Bandwidth. Another pathetic and idiotic attempt by posting a concocted article from 2001 ....

 

[Spring Onion]

jana u r words are dishearteneing,inspite of repeated warning signals u r still trying to hide behind your blind hate towards india.

Prashant had u read all those posts made by ur countrymen ?? if not go and read those carefully and u will know what hate realy means and who can know better thn me that how much biase ur peopel are towards us if u say i will post all those mails origional ones with addresses sent even by ur senior writers and some government officials on my articles just by seeign word India full of abuses and uncivilised langauge.

we do not hate India as much as ur people had been fed with hate towards us.

 

[Bull]

So you do agree that India funds terrorism as well as does terrorism itself to achieve its goals. So now you should go tell your countrymen that your government is not as innocent as they think. Also tell them that India doesn't just fund terrorism and does terrorism itself on small scale, it does it on large scale.

Ahsan u r a field marshal and undersatnd sarcasm...the super RAW and super IB couldnt stop maything happening in India.

 

[Bull]

Again..the ******** blame Pakistan for something that was an internal matter of HINDUstan. The bombay blasts were a direct result of the killing of innocent moslems by fanatic trishul carrying hindu mobs gone nuts! It was a result of the destruction of the Babri Mosque by hindu terrorists who were supported by india's hindu fundamentalist government.

Pakistan had nothing to do with it and these fairy tales spun by ******** about ISI being behind it are just plain DUMB. :crazy2:

Which govt was that????

 

[Bull]

Prashant had u read all those posts made by ur countrymen ?? if not go and read those carefully and u will know what hate realy means and who can know better thn me that how much biase ur peopel are towards us if u say i will post all those mails origional ones with addresses sent even by ur senior writers and some government officials on my articles just by seeign word India full of abuses and uncivilised langauge.

we do not hate India as much as ur people had been fed with hate towards us.

Yeah u dont who all are the Indians posting over now other than me and sword.so since its only two of us it wud be an easy task of pinpointing hate posts made by us.Why dont u pm me or msg me regarding it.I am ready to mend it if im at wrong.