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4 Missing After China Vessel Rams Philippines Fishing Boat

What is wrong with you Indians? I posted the facts (see below) for you and you keep spouting the same anti-China garbage.

What "deliberate incident" are you referring to? We only have b.s. Filipino claims and beliefs. That's it. No verifiable facts at all.

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More Filipino anti-China propaganda garbage

As far as I can tell, the Filipino story is all innuendo. There has been no independent verification. There is no reputable forensic analysis of the collision. All we have is Filipino "claims" and "beliefs." Quite frankly, it sounds like anti-China propaganda garbage to me.

We have no idea who collided. We have no idea who's at fault. But hey, those losers will always blame the Chinese for everything.

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Chinese,PhilippinesBoatsCollideinSouthChinaSea China Digital Times (CDT)

"The Philippines claimed Sunday that a Chinese ship accidentally rammed a fishing boat to the north of the disputed Scarborough Shoal in the South China Sea, according to AFP:

The fishing boat set out from the northern coastal town of Bolinao, in Pangasinan province, last Monday and was reported to have sunk two days later, Office of Civil Defence chief Benito Ramos told AFP.

“Of the eight fishermen aboard, four were plucked out of sea only yesterday, but one of them died in a hospital,” Ramos said. “Four more are still missing.”

The rescued fishermen told authorities they believed the vessel which collided with their boat was Chinese, Ramos said, though this could not be independently verified.

Chinese embassy officials were not available for comment on Sunday."
Chinese 50 cent army. false flagger.

More Filipino anti-China propaganda garbage

As far as I can tell, the Filipino story is all innuendo. There has been no independent verification. There is no reputable forensic analysis of the collision. All we have is Filipino "claims" and "beliefs." Quite frankly, it sounds like anti-China propaganda garbage to me.

We have no idea who collided. We have no idea who's at fault. But hey, those losers will always blame the Chinese for everything.

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Chinese,PhilippinesBoatsCollideinSouthChinaSea China Digital Times (CDT)

"The Philippines claimed Sunday that a Chinese ship accidentally rammed a fishing boat to the north of the disputed Scarborough Shoal in the South China Sea, according to AFP:

The fishing boat set out from the northern coastal town of Bolinao, in Pangasinan province, last Monday and was reported to have sunk two days later, Office of Civil Defence chief Benito Ramos told AFP.

“Of the eight fishermen aboard, four were plucked out of sea only yesterday, but one of them died in a hospital,” Ramos said. “Four more are still missing.”

The rescued fishermen told authorities they believed the vessel which collided with their boat was Chinese, Ramos said, though this could not be independently verified.

Chinese embassy officials were not available for comment on Sunday."
Again Chinese. I am sick of these false flagger.

to be fair to martian, i would like to point out that when i registered here, they asked me what my nationality was and where i was. so i have two american flags. it didnt ask me my ethnicity. im sure the same was the case for martian.
Just by two American flags you can't become American. Foolish.
 
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The name of the sea is the very fundamental cause of the new claims by china. Rename the "South China Sea" to "Southeast Asian Sea" instead.
Change 'South China Sea' to 'Southeast Asia Sea' - petition - The Philippine Star » News » Headlines
Environment Petition: Change the name "South China Sea" to "Southeast Asia Sea" | Change.org

I think you miss the point.

It is called the South China Sea, because Chinese discovered, explored, and claimed it during the Han Dynasty about 1,400 years ago. You can't undo all of that history by renaming the South China Sea.

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Off-topic (at Rising Sun): If you are an American citizen, hold an U.S. passport, and lived in the United States for decades then it is entirely appropriate to fly the Stars and Stripes. I'm American and you're not. Bite me.
 
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I've said this many times. My avatar is the only picture with three pools of whitewater for the Three Gorges Dam. If you losers keep complaining, I'll switch to my first choice of China's 3.3-megaton thermonuclear explosion in 1967.

Chinese false flagger at its best. showing Chinese nuclear bomb instead of American one
 
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Chinese false flagger at its best. showing Chinese nuclear bomb instead of American one

You moron. The U.S. won't thermonuke India. However, China might.

As armchair generals, we discuss weapons that are likely to come into play during a conflict. We exclude weapons that we know won't be used. There is no territorial dispute between the U.S. and India. Hence, discussing American weaponry is pointless.
 
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Not with respect to Vietnam. The U.S. Navy is useless when the PLA rolls across the Sino-Vietnamese border. The U.S. Navy is only a problem with respect to a Sino-Filipino conflict or to obstruct trade.

If China wanted to take Hanoi or annex the Northern half of Vietnam, there is nothing you can do to stop it.
OK Chinese false flagger since when Chinese military became much stronger than US that US military became useless. BIG LOLL.
US can defeat China in China land leave alone neighboring countries.

You moron. The U.S. won't thermonuke India. However, China might.

As armchair generals, we discuss weapons that are likely to come into play during a conflict. We exclude weapons that we know won't be used. There is no territorial dispute between the U.S. and India. Hence, discussing American weaponry is pointless.
China doesn't have the guts to talk straight let bomb alone. India can return the bomb with a high interest rate. Go & pray china you moron Chinese false flagger.
 
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OK Chinese false flagger since when Chinese military became much stronger than US that US military became useless. BIG LOLL.
US can defeat China in China land leave alone neighboring countries.

The U.S. can't defeat China on land and here's why.

With very primitive military technology, China fought the U.S. to a standstill/stalemate during the Korean War (1950-1953).

With better technology, China won the Vietnam War (1960-1975) by supplying massive quantities of weapons (e.g. anti-aircraft guns and Chinese specialists) to the Vietnamese.

With near-peer technology and as the world's foremost conventional ballistic missile power, China will clean the U.S. Army's clock in any land war on China's periphery. This is the only rational military analysis (2012).
 
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Bro, Singaporen leaders do not (so-called) supporte China.
Let's look at 4 Uncle Sam warships presence in Singapore and hear their leaders said: "Trust me, Uncle Sam the Indispensable"...
You yourselves assessment these things.

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We should not trust any Chinese in ASEAN region. If they don't listen to us, then let's send them all back to China like what we did to Chinese in 1979. Lee Kuan Yew could be China's spy in Singapore.
Then there is Singapore. Singapore is lock stock and barrel in the New World Order. They went to a cash less Society before anyone else. One of the Li family who spells his name Lee, Lee Kuan Yew, a Cambridge-educated lawryer, was dictator of Singapore for decades. He has ties to the British elite. As an example of his dictatorship, Lee didn’t like long hair on men, and so men coming into Singapore with long hair would have their passports taken away and either got a haircut or went to jail. In 1959, when Brittain gave Sing apore its Independence the Li family (in this case also spelled Lee) controlled the People’s Action Party which ruled the country. In 1976, the Pe ople’s Action Party monopolized politics so much that they won all 69 seats for Parliament. Lee Kuan Yew was pla ced into the all-powerful position of President in 1965, where he remained I belIeve until 1991. Singapore’s leaders made Singapore very anti-communist during the cold war, and when Nixon began his trips to woo China., Singapore began making goodwill political mission to China. In 1975, Lee’s hench man Foreign Minister S. Rajaratnam went to China and met with Chou En-lai. Chou En-lai was the mentor and friend of Li Peng.

Li Peng’s early life.
Actually, to be more specific after Li Peng’s father, who was a leading communist, was shot by the nationalists in 1931, Chou Enlal more or less adopted Li Peng and raised him. Chou Enlal got Li Peng into Moscow’s school system, where, when the Russians finally realized his brilliance wanted to keep Li Peng and train him for their own purposes, and Li had to escape to back to China. For whatever reasons Li Peng was an advocate of the Soviet style of economics. Before being placed into his prominent position that he holds
today, Li Peng managed China’s economy for many years.

Lee met Mao
In 1976, Lee Kuan Yew himself met with Mao Tse-Tung (then the leader of Red China). Mao Tse-tuag himself is closely tied to the Li family. Li Ta-chao was the head of the communist party in Northern China during the fighting with the Nationalists. Mao’s bodyguard was a Li family mem ber Li Yinqiao. Mao’s mentor was Li Ta-chao, who had ties to the Red Spears Secret Society
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LimPeh said:
LOL u can try. You couldn't do much already in this region with Soviet backing, now you are trying to issue some big threats with just two useless friends, India and the Philippines? Don't try too hard to be a bad boy in this region, it won't do u guys any good.
Hehe, at least we sent(and killed) all China's supporters in Laos-Camb back to China and killed uncountable number of Chinese-Thai in 1979 , next step could be China's supporters in Malay-Singapore , if they don't support us, then we will send them to Hell with Scud-D.

Step by step we will send all bad China's supporter back to China, we only keep good Chinese who support us, we're your Neighbour,dude:coffee:
 
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Get your facts straight: U.S. aid to poverty-stricken Philippines for 2011 was $102 million


FY 2011 USAID Assistance to the Philippines: $102 Million

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Source: http://philippines.usaid.gov/about/budget

I fail to see the geo-political implications of U.S. non-military aid to the Philippines.

There are 92 million dirt-poor Filipinos. The U.S. gave each of them $1.11. Who cares?

The $1 billion aid for Georgia was intentionally designed as a political message of support. These are two very different circumstances.

Only close U.S. ally Israel receives billion-dollar aid. The U.S. is implicitly attaching great value to Georgia by elevating the tiny country to Israeli levels of aid.
Lol you Chinese big mouth speaking false flagger. if you had guts to show your nationality. you wouldn't have talking about Chinese supremacy over all others.
 
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Lol you Chinese big mouth speaking false flagger. if you had guts to show your nationality. you wouldn't have talking about Chinese supremacy over all others.

When hell freezes over

Oh well, I guess it's too much to expect an Indian to understand objective military analyses. My assessments are fair and impartial.

You Indian nationalists (and this applies to the Vietnamese, Filipinos, and Koreans) are detached from reality and claim you will defeat China in a war. Sure you will. When hell freezes over.
 
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Filipino ships have no business in Chinese 1,000-year-old territorial waters from the Han Dynasty.

You Filipinos are illegal trespassers on Chinese territory.

Chinese dinghies have no right to be in the Philippines EEZ.

You greedy yellow monkeys are so greedy claiming what is not yours, even up to the coasts of smaller countries.
What an insanely absurd claim on that 9-dash line. :hitwall:
 
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LOL u can try. You couldn't do much already in this region with Soviet backing, now you are trying to issue some big threats with just two useless friends, India and the Philippines? Don't try too hard to be a bad boy in this region, it won't do u guys any good.
These days Chinese are so much frightened for their nationality that they hide their national flag which is pride for a honest countrymen. there are Chinese hiding behind US,Singapore,Germany flag to just create misunderstanding. Martian,Gotterdom,LimPeh just to name a few. Singapore,Japan,India,US & Australia these are friendly countries. They are using our own flag to create misunderstanding between us. Such shameless people.
 
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These days Chinese are so much frightened for their nationality that they hide their national flag which is pride for a honest countrymen. there are Chinese hiding behind US,Singapore,Germany flag to just create misunderstanding. Martian,Gotterdom,LimPeh just to name a few. Singapore,Japan,India,US & Australia these are friendly countries. They are using our own flag to create misunderstanding between us. Such shameless people.

Bugger off Indian! ASEAN politics has got nothing to do with you! You are not even invited in as observers, so stop trying to stick your fat noses in.
 
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When hell freezes over

Oh well, I guess it's too much to expect an Indian to understand objective military analyses. My assessments are fair and impartial.

You Indian nationalists (and this applies to the Vietnamese, Filipinos, and Koreans) are detached from reality and claim you will defeat China in a war. Sure you will. When hell freezes over.

On the contrary we Filipinos admit that we cannot win militarily against China and we are in fact intelligently playing whatever remaining cards we have. You Chinese arm chair generals should excercise restraint just as Hi Jintao warned your warmongering military leaders.

Hu Jintao Sends Warning Message to Military | Regime | China | Epoch Times
 
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Chinese dinghies have no right to be in the Philippines EEZ.

You greedy yellow monkeys are so greedy claiming what is not yours, even up to the coasts of smaller countries.
What an insanely absurd claim on that 9-dash line. :hitwall:

I feel your frustration. There is no rule of law in international relations or geopolitics, it is simply put ""might is right". The only way to balance power is with equal amount of power. So this is a dilemma for all small states who are in the region with other bigger states. Alliance with big powers is one solution, but a better one is what I propose here:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/164048-kalu_miahs-new-world-order-road-map-future.html
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/180755-geopolitics-asean-region.html
 
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When hell freezes over

Oh well, I guess it's too much to expect an Indian to understand objective military analyses. My assessments are fair and impartial.

You Indian nationalists (and this applies to the Vietnamese, Filipinos, and Koreans) are detached from reality and claim you will defeat China in a war. Sure you will. When hell freezes over.
I can very well understand your so-called fair and impartial objective military analysis. Chinese military is nothing against US military & here a Chinese(hiding behind US flag) is telling us that US navy is useless. You are imagining that only Chinese are real others are detached from reality. Go baby go. And for your claim I am giving you some links.
1987 Sino-Indian skirmish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Chola incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sino-Indian War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Open your eyes. There is hell of information on internet,you can't cheat others especially a computer graduate. LOL.
 
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