4 Missing After China Vessel Rams Philippines Fishing Boat

[ManilaBoy45]

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[sweetgrape]

I don't care about viet life, I just hope, If the war between china and viet happen again, this time, we should destroy their all military target, include ground live target, Of course, destroy all their aircraft and warship include that we supply to them. we should let them can't recover in this attack in more than 100 years, Don't think they are human, just think they are wood!! Like USA, just need to throw the bomb on their land! That's all!

 

[truthseer]

Vietnamese really do know how to derail, this topic was about the Philippines

 

[NiceGuy]

I don't care about viet life, I just hope, If the war between china and viet happen again, this time, we should destroy their all military target, include ground live target, Of course, destroy all their aircraft and warship include that we supply to them. we should let them can't recover in this attack in more than 100 years, Don't think they are human, just think they are wood!! Like USA, just need to throw the bomb on their land! That's all!

Problem is we can sneak into your territory, destroy any military targets we want when you can't so the same. and the Kill ratio between VN regular force and China is 1:10(one VN soldier can kill ten PLA soldier)

Evening of 4 July 1984 23 am, the Vietnamese troops of 406 battalion 821 Secret Mission 7 with a row of elevation points from the 1134 side saddle sneaked into my territory and then, point by point to observation point by point the way forward on the road before dawn on the 5th to the scheduled meeting place – a cave hidden white pyroxenite. 5, hostile white Shiyan, various positions in a close observation of the arrival day and night. At 0:30 on the 6th or so, in addition to a group of white remain as alert and take place inside the cave, Shiyan task, I compiled four group secret enemy approach the target area, were a group of 160 mortar attack on army positions and 41 Teachers 122 Group 9 with three rows. The other two groups from the left-right attack on Kunming Military Region I (now incorporated into the Chengdu Military Region) artillery battalion reconnaissance apparatus, “Xin Bolin” radar position. 2:30, the enemy opened fire at the same time, 2:40 end of the operation, killed 10 people and injured 49 people, the enemy killed 1 person and injured 10 people.

After the completion of the enemy attack, the attack group retreated to the white line along the original cave, Shiyan, slight casualties treated on the same day before 6 pm outside the original infiltration routes withdrawn. Later identified as the battlefield with poor management and night of the incident, the guard changing of the guard soldiers after the wake of the posts went to sleep, but the appointment of the soldiers agreed to sleep soon as it passed, it is an enemy agent teams can smoothly slip important reason for coming.

The enemy’s sabotage operations in terms of combat readiness, tactical use of weapons or the means to view, be termed the classic special operations, sabotage the enemy when using only grenades, directional mines, rockets and plastic explosives man other blast weapons, not only to me and cause greater damage technical equipment, but also an attempt to cover the war, our military personnel positions until the day 6 had thought only the enemy’s artillery explosions.


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Vietnamese really do know how to derail, this topic was about the Philippines

then you should read again and see who derailed it first.

I hate to break this to you. No one cares about the Philippines. You guys are yesterday's news.

If you go to Google News home page, Fox News, or CNN, there is nothing. People could care less. I've been trying to tell you guys. You are nobodies. Perhaps it's not fair, but it's a fact of life.

I said all along, Vietnamese and Filipinos are worth less than Georgians to the United States. The Georgians received no military support from the U.S. during the Russo-Georgian War. You guys will receive even less. One month after a Sino-Vietnamese or Sino-Filipino war, the U.S. will ask China for a "reset."

This is a fair and objective analysis. All of you know this to be true.


Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...s-philippines-fishing-boat.html#ixzz1yh2kjtt6

 

[demoknight]

Why this trend is on Pakistan Defense forum in the first place? Shame on my fellow Asians who made themselves a Puppet of those countries having more interest in starting up the war. USA and USSR are known to have past conflict, now they need a fire to start from their toys (CHINA, VIETNAM and PHILIPPINES) so they can continue their own war. Western countries tighten their bonds between neighboring states, Middle east countries had their own link between each countries. Asians? grabbing any things they can see from weak neighbors.

 

[Amolthebest]

china must stop to be bully. Or repeat of 1979 spanking is inevitable.

 

[Diamond_Gold]

Why this trend is on Pakistan Defense forum in the first place? Shame on my fellow Asians who made themselves a Puppet of those countries having more interest in starting up the war. USA and USSR are known to have past conflict, now they need a fire to start from their toys (CHINA, VIETNAM and PHILIPPINES) so they can continue their own war. Western countries tighten their bonds between neighboring states, Middle east countries had their own link between each countries. Asians? grabbing any things they can see from weak neighbors.

When one's nation is poor and illiterate, its people will be an easily target for manipulation by their own selfish politians and some ambitious big nations. These vicious cycles are repeative and they will not stop until the whole asia is uplifted from poverty and ignorance. That is mainly part of the reason that we are now still seeing so many asian countries, from Syria...to SCS boiling in trouble these days...

 

[Martian2]

you are obviously a chinese and not american at all... why change your flag??


the reason USA didnt involve itself with georgia, is because georgia was stupid enough to attack sth ossetia /abkhazia etc which invoked a response from russia..

the georgians were the aggressor. if russia had of just attacked georgia, it probably would of had a different outcome.

georgia is not as important as asia to america. dont talk crap

you forget, it is not just a game of power, control etc.. its politics.

notice it is just chinese ramming vessels? causing trouble? philippines is not the instigator in all this. it is not the aggressor

if china went to war with some neighboring countries, they would be seen as nazi germany ( attack a country for bull reasons, then once that finnished, onto the next one etc) and it would revoke a response

I am Chinese-American and my flag hasn't changed in three years.

Your military analysis is completely wrong. The U.S. would not have intervened whether Georgia attacked first or Russia had attacked first. Georgia, the Baltics, and the Ukraine are completely indefensible.

Show me a reputable unbiased citation (e.g. not anti-Chinese western media) where Chinese were at fault for "ramming."

I will accept a video or an impartial UN investigative report. Right now, you're just repeating hearsay. You are clearly prejudiced against Chinese like the rest of the Indians in this thread.

 

[FullMetalJacket]

Their boating is just as worse as their driving.

 

[Developereo]

The news break said the 'Axl John' was allegedly bumped by a Chinese vessel. It could be, then it might not, so further details are needed for any accusations. And besides the article didn't say it was a Chinese Coast Guard vessel, so it could have been another fishing boat and if indeed such a case the matter is viewed entirely different.

Let's wait for independent verification of what happened.

Regardless of the politics involved, let's hope the fisherman are found safe.

 

[EastSea]

Vietnamese just talk big,in 1988 in Spratly we slaughtered them like dogs.

Chinese surveillance ship ran away like mad dog.

 

[anonymousposter]

i think the martian is wrong at least in regard to the philippines.

america hates bringing american soldiers onto foreign lands. iraq and afghanistan is several orders different from Georgia. Georgia has no oil or muslim terrorists living on it and Russia is not a muslim terrorist harboring neighbor. But more importanly, Russia has some valid point about the Georgians making the lives of Russian minorities difficult.

and china and america are friends now, but america likes to move around the US Navy, because people don't die when the US navy 7th fleet start going up and down these shores ina show of force. this is like a cheap way to implement american policy, especially since chinese navy cant match it. of course, the philippinos kicked out american soldiers out of there long time ago, so this is like a ,"see i told you this sh17 will happen to you when we leave" moment for america.

but the real problem for china is that they have a billion people who like to eat seafood like the rest of us and they fished every single fish right next to them including little tiny anchovies. humans vs fish and usually thr fish loses. Now even if Chinese government was a competent government, it would be very hard to manage the fisheries when a billion people want to eat fish. But as we all know, chinese government is incompetent.

So the chinese fishermen are getting real violent since they camt send their kids to college. When the chinese fishermen killed south korean coastguardmen, some big wig from chinese communsit party probably went to Seoul and said this:

"dude, why you making a big deal of this? do it quietly you damn fool! you know i cant control these people! just kill those fishermen very quietly and dump their body i. the sea so nobody will ever know. this is how we solve our problems."

then the south korean president probably said, "hey man, we used to solve our problems just like you are doing and as much as i want to kill them and dump their body in the sea, all these leftist students in korea installed cameras everywhere including our boats and they keep harping at me to do it the "democratic" way."

So the South Korean president goes on TV and he has to say something like, "my government will act strong" and he has ro say ths, because if he doesnr, he loses political power.

now the chinese communists have to say the same exact thingm "my government will act strong", because, even though China is not a democracy, they are really worried that one billion internet trolls from Sina dot com will bring down the party. and i mean it is a real happenin' party right now, because all the chinese communist officials are making a sh17 load of money on briberies. See this happened in south korea too back in the day.m and back then, the communists used to say, "no! no class division in our socialisr utopia!". and now that they are only nominal socialists, they love making money however they do this.

but the fishermen arent communist party officials and noone is giving them a thick over stuffed manilla envelopes asking them to do them "favors", because the only thing these guys know how to do is to catch fish and swing metal pipes.

so what are communist party bosses going to say to these fishermen? "dont fish there, its not our sea.". they cant say this, because then the fishermen are going to say, "listen you @ssh0le, unlike you f@cks, i actually have to earn a living. and you said i should keep quiet and mind my own business, because you said you were making China into a powerful country. well, are you a bunch of liars?"

so now chinese communists have no choice, but to send out ships and look real scary and angry and say stuff like, "kowtow before the might of the Celecstrial Empire!". because id they dont these vilent fishermen will become unemployed violent mafia goons. and those guys will start to play some politics of their own.

and obviously the vietnamese and koreans will get pissed off at this point, becaue we used to be chinese vassels and we dont like that. we had several hundred years of annoying arrogant chinese emissaries coming to our country yelling, "kowtow! kowtow now motherf@ckers!". and we are real tired.

i mean just look at the vietnamese. south koreans sent soldiers to vietnam war and didnt behave very nicely. the vietnamese dont go around saying "evil koreans! evil koreans!". because why? because they WON. winners can be magnanimius, because it's usually the losers who are all bitter. and as the vietnamese keep pointing out incessantly, "we kicked you chinese out! ha! we are still winners and you, still losers.". Nowadays s korea and vietnam are friends. because they are both sitting around thinking, "we small countries have to stick together."

and now the philipinos are all like, "good god, these chinese are voracious seafood eaters. i must protect my shrimps!". and now even these guys are buying south korean jet trainers.

then in internet forums chinese people who love china start to "defend" their honor by saying "ha ha! you losers all used to kowtow to us! kowtow you otherf@ckers!". and they do such a wonderful job winning over friends.

see, my mother used to tell me that my grandparents and their parents and grandparents used to be all haughty and full of themselves, because rhe family was "yangban" meaning the elite scholar class people, even though the family spent all their time gpfarming rice. she said, "people who got nothing to show themselves always talk about their glorious ancestors."

and that is what people with nothing do, because when you have nothing, your pride becomes all that more important. because pride is their only worldly possession.

and smart high ranking government people will dole out big helpings of pride to all the poor people. because pride is free! and then the poor stupid people become all complacent and easy to manipulate.

then these people go online and post obnoxious sh17 on pakistan defence forum, because it's fun.

it is a time honored tradition for every country to blame the foreigner. governments love it, becsuse people who blame foreigners are too busy blaming the government.

 

[ManilaBoy45]

1 fatality has now been reported as a result of the collision incident off the west coast of Luzon just north of Scarborough Shoal in the SCS ...



1 killed, 4 missing as Chinese vessel 'accidentally rams' Philippine fishing boat - InterAksyon.com

 

[EastSea]

1 fatality now being reported as a result of the collision incident off the west coast of Luzon in the SCS ...



1 killed, 4 missing as Chinese vessel 'accidentally rams' Philippine fishing boat - InterAksyon.com

Philippine have to purchase more weapons, warships.

 

[RISING SUN]

Relax, if you intentionally want to believe that we Vietnamese believe we are "worth" something to the U.S, we would not bother spending billions shopping for arms (and continue to do so) .

Stop getting paranoid about the prospect of the U.S would get involved in any conflicts between us and you guys, we're not their ally so stop your constant bit ching whinning crying about how much "worthiness" we're in their eyes . If the U.S decides to lend Viet Nam a helping hand, that's great, if not, we don't even lose anything

Stupid people really have a terrible time understanding our relation with foreign countries (in this case the U.S)

Don't take it to your heart because Martian is a false flagger. He is Chinese. You can understand from post.