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[ghazi52]

Long live Pakistan....

With Pakistan Police and others..........................

 

[BATMAN]

Pakistan should take RAW and India seriously. It seems after failed attempt at opened war where it lost 2 aircrafts and failed incursions they have resorted to snake fighting. Pakistan needs to perform action.

In that case it's proven that the decisions taken by Pak leadership on 27th February, were fundamentally flawed!

 

[Rafeh]

They have caught countless BLA and TTP elements over the years. Nothing happens. We don't hear anything. It just vanishes and everyone forgets. We move onto the next incident. This has become a routine now for almost two decades. Attacks occur. Depending on the outcome we either wheep or celebrate.

The problem lies with the decision-makers. If we can identify and suggest ideas to tackle the problem why can't the decision-makers?

You are right. There is a bigger problem.

But eventually Pakistan will have to import Chinese face recognition and tracking city wide camera systems and install them in all major cities, highways, motorways etc.

Either Pakistan saves money now and keeps on ruining their economy or finds a way to finance such high tech approaches once and for all.

Sooner or later in a city, a known terrorist will show his face and with a system like this installed in all major cities, one can identify and report not just him but Pakistan can silently track all his accomplices. Other criminals can be nabbed as well making cities safer. Do realize tracking and identification is automatic and no one is actually watching us. So our privacy is pretty much safe even when such system is on. At least we should do it for a while, till terrorism dies out. Once peace is restored we can dismantle such system if we want to (to restore our earlier privacy level etc.).

May be a soft loan from china will help in this regards so that Chinese system can be imported.

 

[Ace of Spades]

Don't worry, it has already been taken to them.... They will respond as well.... It's war, casualties happen for both sides, it was never a one sided game, and it never will be.

Everyone of us has to do his own work in a professional and efficient manner....
Like the couple of simple looking armed guards who took the brunt and despatched the attackers today.... Just like them, everyone one of us has to do our work efficiently..... Just to quote someone from 1947..... WITHOUT FEAR AND WITHOUT FAVOR.

There is a difference between main land and disputed territory... Unless debt is repaid in kind in main land India; it's not gonna deter effectively.

 

[BATMAN]

They have caught countless BLA and TTP elements over the years. Nothing happens. We don't hear anything. It just vanishes and everyone forgets. We move onto the next incident. This has become a routine now for almost two decades. Attacks occur. Depending on the outcome we either weep or celebrate.

The problem lies with the decision-makers. If we can identify and suggest ideas to tackle the problem why can't the decision-makers? Something is not right. In any other country the likes of BLA and PTM would be locked up and punished severely. In Pakistan, BLA and PTM walk around freely and challange the state. They are allowed to protest and agitate. The state is just a spectator.

The outcome of this attack is also very predictable. Nothing much will happen. What needs to happen is that the security forces and intelligence agencies need to get into the places where these terrorists operate. They train and arm themselves in open spaces. We have pictures on this forum where these terrorists were training. Why can't the security forces and intel agencies infiltrate and reach these places?

Kulbhoshan Yadeve has been the catch of our history... we don't know what he told in private but what is in public domain, he was operating from Indian military base in Chabahar and had no fear travelling to Pakistan via Taftan!

On the contrary, Pakistani leadership went all the way to Iran and blamed Pakistan for terrorism, may be Imran Khan and his entourage should be asked to give explaination.

 

[Dalit]

You are right. There is a bigger problem.

But eventually Pakistan will have to import Chinese face recognition and tracking city wide camera systems and install them in all major cities, highways, motorways etc.

Either Pakistan saves money now and keeps on ruining their economy or finds a way to finance such high tech approaches once and for all.

Sooner or later in a city, a known terrorist will show his face and with a system like this installed in all major cities, one can identify and report not just him but Pakistan can silently track all his accomplices. Other criminals can be nabbed as well making cities safer. Do realize tracking and identification is automatic and no one is actually watching us. So our privacy is pretty much safe even when such system is on. At least we should do it for a while, till terrorism dies out. Once peace is restored we can dismantle such system if we want to (to restore our privacy etc.).

May be a soft loan from china will help in this regards so that Chinese system can be imported.

Exactly. There are tons and tons of initiatives that the state and security forces could and must take to ensure security and stability. Unfortunately there is an extremely lethargic response. It is almost like the state doesn't want to act against terrorists. This is the wrong approach and regrettably we haven't learnt from the past. TTP should serve as a stark reminder how Pakistan was shackled in an extremely difficult situation. It took Pak armed forces many years and lives to rectify the mess. BLA cannot be allowed to become a bigger monster. Balochistan must at all cost be cleansed from the few remnant terrorists. The state must not let this problem get bigger. It is very much in control right now. This group is small and can be contained quite easily. BLA is not a disgruntled group. It is a hardcore terrorist group that receives foreign funding. Period. BLA leaders get refuge in Western nations. What more proof are we looking for? Look these Western nations straight in the eyes and demand from them whether they side with Pakistan or terrorists. If they side with BLA terrorists cut diplomatic relations. What good is having diplomatic relations with countries that provide refuge to BLA terrorists?

Round up BLA. Use every means possible to gather intel. Round up their families, acquaintances and backers. Get to the very bottom of this problem and eliminate it as hard as possible. Take the people of Pakistan into confidence. There should be no debate on this. It needs to be done quickly and decisively. The state and security forces must not bow before the media or foreign pressure. Like always, the sold out media, Hindustanis and Western groups will try to exploit the situation. This anti-Pak nexus is going to make a lot of noise and accusations. The state and security forces shouldn't give a hoot and simply execute the job. Nations that mean business and care about their well-being don't give a fvck about what others think or say. They execute the job with full conviction and reap the benefits of perseverance.

 

[BATMAN]

The Pak armed forces will have to dismantle BLA.

BLA doesn't exist beyond few liberals and show horses.
It's not hard to prepare 2-3 terrorists every year. They are basically distraction, on the other hand our focus should remain Kashmir, where lot is happening.

 

[Dalit]

BLA doesn't exist beyond few liberals and show horses.
It's not hard to prepare 2-3 terrorists every year. They are basically distraction, on the other hand our focus should remain Kashmir, where lot is happening.

Don't underestimate BLA. Today they mounted an attack on your stock exchange building. Tomorrow they could attack another building of importance. These foreign funded terrorists won't shy away from grabbing major headlines.

Libtards in Pakistan stand shoulder to shoulder with PTM and BLA. Even if these terrorists attacked national institutes, the liberal is going to side with his BLA terrorist. In Pakistan we have many Mir Jafar's.

 

[Rafeh]

Exactly. There are tons and tons of initiatives that the state and security forces could and must take to ensure security and stability. Unfortunately there is an extremely lethargic response. It is almost like the state doesn't want to act against terrorists. This is the wrong approach and regrettably we haven't learnt from the past. TTP should serve as a strak reminder how Pakistan was shackled in an extremely difficult situation. BLA cannot be allowed to become a bigger monster. Balochistan must at all cost be cleansed from the few remnant terrorists. The state must not let this problem get bigger.

Round up BLA. Use every means possible to gather intel. Round up their families, acquaintances and terror backers. Get to the very bottom of this problem and eliminate it as hard as possible. There should be no debate on this. It needs to be done quickly and decisively. The state and security forces must not bow before the media or foreign pressure.

I would say border with Iran should be sealed fully to prevent these terrorist running away to mountainous hide outs across the border or coming back from them to Pakistan.

However, it would lead to extreme poverty among over a million baloch who depend on smuggled goods from iran. Once out of job and out of money and already not just poor but living in a land that is significantly underdeveloped means that they could be recruited for money (at least some of them) and that can lead to further security disaster.

Hence along with sealing the border with Iran, Pakistan government by working actively with international doner agencies, Chinese and others, alternative and regulated job opportunities for these baloch must be created.

A quota system should be set up by Pakistan in consultation with GCC countries to give priority to these baloch in emerging middle eastern jobs so that they can be economically uplifted.

We don't want to solve one problem by sealing the borders and create another mess by creating extreme hardship for ordinary Baloch whose livelihood depends on smuggled goods. Do realize that there are scarce job opportunities in Balochistan. Hence they should be given alternatives to smuggling through active government programs. WE are economically losing already billions. WHY not secure Balochistan and make those billions. But first we need to spend some there to secure it.

Still movement along all borders now must be strictly regulated. With cameras whose data is relayed elsewhere in the country so that even when local border guards take bribe and let criminal elements go, they can be later identified and arrested (have camera based monitoring cells in other provinces connected by nation wide telecom network). That will deter them in the future since they are being monitored by people they don't know nor have any control over. These border police should however be decently paid so that the bribe is less attractive in the first place.

Creating job opportunists in Balochistan will also create visible satisfaction and sense of hope in baloch youth. Which means they will actively reject these elements rather than passively ignoring them (both out of fear since BLA can kill you or out of resentment for not having any income or job and therefore a sense of inequality and neglect).

We must get our own house in order. Since US pays afghan NDS salaries and CIA liaison office closely connected with NDS where NDS and CIA daily plan and execute both operational level and strategic level intel based details. US has full awareness of what is going on. US must be held accountable too. US should be told that they either stop these people namely NDS or there would no cooperation as far as Taliban is concerned. IF Iran is involved, it will automatically pay the price once borders are sealed since it will loose a huge market that it has due to smuggled goods in Pakistan. Once border trade is regulated, Pakistan will have huge leverage over its neighbors.

I must add overwhelming majority of Baloch love their country Pakistan. Some sold out are problem not just in Balochistan but in other provinces as well.

 

[YeBeWarned]

I think the Thread is going a bit off topic ..

 

[Dalit]

I would say border with Iran should be sealed fully.

However, it would lead to extreme poverty among over a million baloch who depend on smuggled goods from iran. Once out of job and out of money and already not just poor but living in a land that is significantly underdeveloped means that they could be recruited for money (at least some of them) and that can lead to further security disaster.

Hence along with sealing the border with Iran, Pakistan government by working actively with international doner agencies, Chinese and others, alternative and regulated job opportunities for these baloch must be created.

A quota system should be set up by Pakistan in consultation with GCC countries to give priority to these baloch in emerging middle eastern jobs so that they can be economically uplifted.

We don't want to solve one problem by sealing the borders and create another mess by creating extreme hardship for ordinary Baloch whose livelihood depends on smuggled goods. Do realize that there are scars job opportunities in Balochistan. Hence they should be given alternatives to smuggling through active government programs. WE are economically losing already billions. WHY not secure Balochistan and make those billions. But first we need to spend some there to secure it.

Still movement along all borders now must be strictly regulated. With cameras whose data is relayed elsewhere in the country so that even when local border guards take bribe and let criminal elements go, they can be later identified and arrested (have camera based monitoring cells in other provinces connected by nation wide telecom network). That will deter them in the future since they are being monitored by people they don't know nor have any control over. These border police should however be decently paid so that the bribe is less attractive in the first place.

Creating job opportunists in Balochistan will also create visible satisfaction and sense of hope in baloch youth. Which means they will actively reject these elements rather than passively ignoring them (both out of fear since BLA can kill you or out of resentment for not having any income or job and therefore a sense of inequality and neglect).

We must get our own house in order. Since US pays afghan NDS salary and CIA liaison office closely connected with NDS where NDS and CIA daily plan and execute both operational level and strategic level intel based details. US must be held accountable too. US should be told that they either stop their paid stooges namely NDS or there would no cooperation as far as Taliban is concerned. Iran will automatically pay the price once borders are sealed since it will loose a huge market that it has due to smuggled goods in Pakistan. Once border trade is regulated, Pakistan will have huge leverage over its neighbors.

I agree with almost everything you say. The border with Iran is already being taken care of as far as I know. Pakistan wants to build a similar fence like it has done on the Afghan border. This is definitely need of the hour.

Every province should get its equal share. Balochistan is not exception in my opinion. When decision-makers are fair and make just decisions, the people prosper.

We also definitely need to keep an eye on external elements. No doubt, the US and India are both spoilers. Both provide tacit approval to groups such as BLA. India more openly than the US. Even if the US has stated that BLA is a terrorist group, we cannot rely on this statement. The US deep state wants to promote India as the police officer of our region. The US deep state accepts every Indian demand. That includes undermining and destabalising Pakistan. Providing support to BLA against the Pakistani state is not a big deal for the US deep state. The US deep state has done far worse.

 

[BATMAN]

A stock exchange for stock exchange. This should be the decision for retaliation just in case.

That's nonsense... we can't give Imran Khan material to prove us as terrorists.
We need CoAS like Pervez Musharraf and Rahil Sharif, Indians and their puppies will automatically hide in their holes.

 

[ghazi52]

KARACHI: A brave young officer has described in a video the gun battle that took place during the Karachi Stock Exchange (PSX) mass shooting Monday morning, saying the assailants attacked in a coordinated manner.

Officer Khalil, part of the Sindh Police's Rapid Response Force (RRF), said one of the terrorists was launching grenade attacks and another firing shots.

Police had explained following the attack that all four terrorists who targeted the PSX building Monday morning had been killed, while two security guards and a police sub-inspector martyred as they repelled the attempt to storm the busiest building on Karachi's I.I. Chundrigar Road, also known as Pakistan's Wall Street.

In a video viral on social media and obtained by Geo News, Khalil said: "I had shot one [of the assailants] and he died. Then I heard someone saying there was another assailant shooting at us.

"That's what I heard from outside. I stopped firing [momentarily] and retreated. Then we were advised to proceed, with two of us to stay in the front and fire while another gave us cover.

"As one of us started firing, the other [inaudible]... It was just a little ahead from here. As the second one [terrorist] stepped out — and he had seen me — I shot him twice and injured him," the young officer said.

Khalil then mentioned a pause of milliseconds when one of the assailants attempted to reach other ammunition for a fresh attack but stressed that he was well-prepared for it.

The terrorist "then took out a grenade [to launch at us] so I aimed and fired at his hand and the grenade, as well as the weapon, dropped from his grip.

"As he tried to pull out the pin from the grenade, I shot him straight in the head. He fell to the ground and two of us stepped forward," the officer stated.

"There was another one I had shot and injured. Afterwards, my colleague went ahead to continue the operation," he added.

 

[Safriz]

as i had said earlier today ....View attachment 646059
@HRK @PanzerKiel @RescueRanger

So .....two "Nations" collaborated and arranged a "Mega Terror attack" .... which lasted 14 minutes and was effectively dealt with security guards and local police?
The much more equipped and trained, the Pakistan army wasn't even needed to deal with this attack.
شرم سے ڈوب مرو
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[ghazi52]

ISLAMABAD: A senior aide of the prime minister on national security hinted at the involvement of India behind the terrorist attack on the Pakistan Stock Exchange (PSX) in Karachi on Monday, in a move that may further deepen the already tense ties between the two nuclear-armed neighbours.

"Pakistan’s enemy is naked in its aggression. Make no mistake, today’s attack in Karachi is state-sponsored terrorism against Pakistan. Our valiant countrymen and women have fought against this menace before and our resolve remains resolute," Moeed Yusuf, PM's special assistant on national security tweeted hours after security forces gunned down four terrorists in the port city.


Moeed apparently linked the attack with the current border tensions between China and India. The two countries have locked horns in the high altitude Ladakh region since early May. At least 20 Indian soldiers including a colonel was killed when the weeks-long border tensions turned into a bloody fight at the Galwan valley.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi has been under pressure domestically for capitulating before China.

"The world must wake up to suicidal tendencies of this destabilising factor that is finding distractions to overcome its own failures and embarrassment. Our warnings have come true repeatedly. Whether on demographic re-engineering in Kashmir or sponsored terrorism against Pakistan," Moeed said in another tweet highlighting Indian frustration over its recent failures in the border tussle with China and in Occupied Jammu and Kashmir.

Earlier, the banned Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) took the responsibility of the terrorist attack. BLA was not only declared as terrorist outfit by Pakistan but also several other countries including the United States and the United Kingdom.

This was the second attack claimed by BLA in Karachi in recent times. In November 2018, BLA terrorists tried to storm the Chinese Consulate in Karachi but they were pinned down before they could enter the premises.

Pakistan does not see BLA just as a local terrorist outfit but a proxy of hostile foreign agencies, which according to Islamabad, are not in favour of China, Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC).

India and the US have publicly opposed the CPEC, the flagship program of President Xi Jinping's Belt and Road Initiative (BRI).

One of the reasons, experts say, tensions have been building up between China and India is because of New Delhi's opposition to CPEC. India claims the CPEC passes through its territory, a claim strongly rejected by Pakistan.

Observers believe that China's military standoff with India may be aimed at conveying a message to New Delhi that Beijing will never accept any hurdles in the way of CPEC.

With Pakistan officially publically pointing fingers at India for the latest attack, tensions are likely to further soar between the two countries.

Pakistan has repeatedly warned that India could carry out "false flag" operation to divert attention from Kashmir as well as its current tensions with China.