35,000 deaths, $68 Billion losses of Pakistan after 9/11 attacks

[Malik Usman]

NEW YORK/WASHINGTON: Pakistan has told Americans, marking the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, that despite paying a heavy price in blood and treasure, the Pakistanis are fighting militants for the safety of people across the world.
“Since 2001, a nation of 180 million has been fighting for the future of the world’s 7 billion,” the Pakistan government said in a message advertised in The Wall Street Journal, a major US newspaper.
The half-page message, with former Shaheed Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto’s photo, was timed with the solemn observance of the tragedy in which more than 3,000 Americans were killed in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.
Ms Bhutto was killed in a terrorist attack, symbolizing the sacrifices and sufferings of the Pakistanis who have lost around 35,000 people including civilians, politicians and security personnel in its courageous decade-old anti-terror fight.
“Which country can do more for your peace,” the government asked. “Can any other country do so? Only Pakistan. The promise of our martyrs lives on.” Giving details, the government told the American public that since Sept 11, 2001, 21,672 Pakistani civilians have lost their lives or have been seriously injured in an ongoing fight against terror.
The Pakistani Army also has lost 2,795 soldiers while 8,671 soldiers have been wounded. There have been 3,486 bomb blasts and 283 major suicide attacks. More than 3.5 million have been displaced while the country has lost $68 billion due to terrorism.
The Pakistani nation is making sacrifices that statistics cannot reflect. Pakistan remains engaged in the war for world peace, with 200,000 troops deployed at the frontline and 90,000 soldiers fighting on the Afghan border.
The tenth anniversary of 9/11 attacks, perpetrated by al-Qaeda linked militants, has brought into focus the terrorism challenges facing the world.
Pakistan launched a massive anti-terror campaign after hundreds of al-Qaeda-linked and Afghan militants crossed into its tribal areas from across the porous Durand Line in late 2001 following the US invasion of Afghanistan and consequent fall of the Taliban government in Kabul. On the eve of tenth anniversary of the attacks, the White House acknowledged the fact that it has been due to Pakistan’s vital anti-terrorism role that now the United States can feel safer, ten years after the cataclysmic 9/11 terrorist attacks that brought down twin World Trade Centre towers in New York, slammed a plane into Pentagon and killed several passengers in the flight that went down in Pennsylvania.
Meanwhile, the Foreign Office also issued a statement late Saturday on the eve of the anniversary. It said: “Today, the world commemorates the tenth anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks. Pakistan joins the people of the United States and of the world in honouring the memory of all those who lost their lives on September 11, as well as those who have been victims of terrorism around the world.”
“As a country that has been severely affected by terrorism, we reaffirm our national resolve to strengthening international cooperation for the elimination of terrorism,” it said. It is also appropriate that today the global community renew its commitment to uphold the noble ideals of tolerance, humanity, brotherhood and friendship amongst all peoples and its determination to work for creating a better world, the statement said.

STILL SOME PEOPLES THINK THAT WE FAVOR TERRORISM.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

You raised a dog. You fed it. You groomed it in the hope that if you ever needed to use it against your neighbor, it will attack. And then when you decided that this dog is more of a menace than a deterrent, you expected it to just roll over and die ? And now you expect 7 billion people to be grateful to you for trying to kill your own self groomed rabid dog.

 

[foxbat]

NEW YORK/WASHINGTON:
STILL SOME PEOPLES THINK THAT WE FAVOR TERRORISM.

Those people believe that all the loss that is mentioned in the advertisement, is a result of Pakistan's old policies of using Irregulars and militants against its enemies and not the cost of Pakistan defending rest of the world from terrorists..

 

[Al Bhatti]

Just for clarification for the Arabs in the forum, the word "arab" in the title means "billion" in urdu.

 

[SMC]

You raised a dog. You fed it. You groomed it in the hope that if you ever needed to use it against your neighbor, it will attack. And then when you decided that this dog is more of a menace than a deterrent, you expected it to just roll over and die ? And now you expect 7 billion people to be grateful to you for trying to kill your own self groomed rabid dog.

So we created and supported TTP? I am sure you've heard of the word 'delusion'. Aptly applies to you.

If you want to talk of Afghan Taliban, then why not ask to be grateful? US was just as involved and they ask everyone to be grateful for their work?

 

[foxbat]

So we created and supported TTP? I am sure you've heard of the word 'delusion'. Aptly applies to you.

You created Taliban.. Rest of the mutations into AT, TTP (Good Taliban , bad Taliban ) was all self sustained..

 

[SMC]

You created Taliban.. Rest of the mutations into AT, TTP (Good Taliban , bad Taliban ) was all self sustained..

You have no idea how TTP came into being. Your post shows you have an overly simplistic view of this, and inherently one that is complete false. There were no mutations, we supported Afghan Taliban only (and we didn't 'create' it btw..). TTP was formed with FATA tribes who were against Pakistan support for US. They were never part of the Afghan Taliban. Both TTP and Afghan Taliban have completely different roots and don't come from the same roots like you suggest...

As I said, If you want to talk of Afghan Taliban, then why not ask to be grateful? US was just as involved and they ask everyone to be grateful for their work?

 

[PlanetWarrior]

You have no idea how TTP came into being. Your post shows you have an overly simplistic view of this, and inherently one that is complete false. There were no mutations, we supported Afghan Taliban only (and we didn't 'create' it btw..). TTP was formed with FATA tribes who were against Pakistan support for US. They were never part of the Taliban.

As I said, If you want to talk of Afghan Taliban, then why not ask to be grateful? US was just as involved and they ask everyone to be grateful for their work?

In response to your argument....The USA is facing their karma with the Afghan Taliban. You are facing yours with the TTP (go ahead and deny that these proxy warriors of yours was never sanctioned by your State until you are blue in the face. Your soldiers and generals say something else on BBC documentaries). Oh and by the way, watch those little puppies you continue feeding in your delusional hope of taking Kashmir. Cute l'il puppies grow into big rabid dogs someday.

 

[Roybot]

So we created and supported TTP? I am sure you've heard of the word 'delusion'. Aptly applies to you.

If you want to talk of Afghan Taliban, then why not ask to be grateful? US was just as involved and they ask everyone to be grateful for their work?

US is not asking anyone to be grateful. They are spending their own tax payers money and using their own forces, without making much hue and cry about it.

 

[Black Widow]

So we created and supported TTP? I am sure you've heard of the word 'delusion'. Aptly applies to you.

If you want to talk of Afghan Taliban, then why not ask to be grateful? US was just as involved and they ask everyone to be grateful for their work?

He is not talking bout any individual organization. TTP is smaller piece of Bigger picture. You created this meance.

Ever heard of "Mutation of Virus" Terrorism has mutated (TTP) and unable to control by old medicine..

 

[KALKI]

The talibs in 80's were a joint bet by The Americans and the Pakistanis.

The Americans lost but still somewhat succeeded in that they at least managed to oust the Russians from Afghanistan and trigger USSR's demise.

The Pakistanis were destroyed, literally.

How's this the other 7 billion's problem, exactly?

Nothing more than a gamble went bad.

Look at it this way.

What if the Pakistanis would have been successfull in using their talib leverage over Afghans to this day?

What if the Pakistanis would have successfully managed to get Kashmir by prodding Jihadis?

What if the Pakistanis would have successfully dismembered Indian Punjab and formed Khalistan.


...all this could happen. It just didn't.

It was a gamble that went bad.

The Pakistani generals should have thought about this possibility before jumping in to be sandwiched between two supoerpowers.

It was their shortsightedness which is responsible for Pakistan's troubles today.

How the hell is this the rest of the 7 billion's problem?

 

[INDIAISM]

First thing first...

In 80ies you supported Taliban so that you can remain in the good book of U.S....

In 90ies you used State sponsered terrorism against India

And then after 2001 you supported U.S in the war against terror...so that you can again come too the good books of U.S..or i can even Bushy baby didn't left you with other option...kyonki america ka boriya bistra to pahunch gaya tha Arabian Sea tak...

And now you are fighting for your own survival

In short you were just fighting for the West...

 

[foxbat]

You have no idea how TTP came into being. Your post shows you have an overly simplistic view of this, and inherently one that is complete false. There were no mutations, we supported Afghan Taliban only (and we didn't 'create' it btw..). TTP was formed with FATA tribes who were against Pakistan support for US. They were never part of the Afghan Taliban. Both TTP and Afghan Taliban have completely different roots and don't come from the same roots like you suggest...

As I said, If you want to talk of Afghan Taliban, then why not ask to be grateful? US was just as involved and they ask everyone to be grateful for their work?

When you sow the seeds of cactus in your lawn, you can not control where all will it spread.. Its you with an overly simplistic and siloed view of the situation. Its not whether Pakistan create or support Taliban, or whether it was Afghan Taliban or Tehrike Taliban Pakistan. Its simply that Pakistan opted to use terrorism/militancy as an instrument of state policy on behest of USA to counter Soviets in Afg.. Now once you get the gennie out of the bottle, its kind of difficult to control it or put it back.. You only control the choice of opening the bottle or not.. Every thing after that is Gennie's choice.

In this case, Pakistan decided to open that bottle in 1980's.. What happened after that in one form or the other is simply the consequence of that action..

America is paying for it and so is Pakistan.. And thats how its meant to be.. Though unlike Pakistan, you dont see USA claiming that its someone else's war...

---------- Post added at 06:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:16 PM ----------

The talibs in 80's were a joint bet by The Americans and the Pakistanis.

The Americans lost but still somewhat succeeded in that they at least managed to oust the Russians from Afghanistan and trigger USSR's demise.

The Pakistanis were destroyed, literally.

How's this the other 7 billion's problem, exactly?

Nothing more than a gamble went bad.

Look at it this way.

What if the Pakistanis would have been successfull in using their talib leverage over Afghans to this day?

What if the Pakistanis would have successfully managed to get Kashmir by prodding Jihadis?

What if the Pakistanis would have successfully dismembered Indian Punjab and formed Khalistan.


...all this could happen. It just didn't.

It was a gamble that went bad.

The Pakistani generals should have thought about this possibility before jumping in to be sandwiched between two supoerpowers.

It was their shortsightedness which is responsible for Pakistan's troubles today.

How the hell is this the rest of the 7 billion's problem?

I wish there was a way to thank a post multiple times

 

[KALKI]

I have one simple question.

What if the Pakistanis would have succeeded in getting Kashmir from India through their support for insurgency which even they accept?

What is the Pakistanis would have succeeded in dismembering India through their support for Khalistan insurgency?

Both of these were spin-off's of the Pakistani adventures in Afghanistan in the 80's.

The Pakistani generals' calculation went awfully wrong. Simple as that.

Now why should the 7 billion pay the price of their wrong calculations?

 

[foxbat]

I have one simple question.

What if the Pakistanis would have succeeded in getting Kashmir from India through their support for insurgency which even they accept?

What is the Pakistanis would have succeeded in dismembering India through their support for Khalistan insurgency?

Both of these were spin-off's of the Pakistani adventures in Afghanistan in the 80's.

The Pakistani generals' calculation went awfully wrong. Simple as that.

Now why should the 7 billion pay the price of their wrong calculations?

From a Pakistani mindset, the militants/terrorists that it supports in Afghanistan/Kashmir or the ones it supported in Punjab are all good militants/terrorists.. The ones targeting Pakistan itself for its support of USA (which it has no option but to support) are all bad terrorists/militants.. and hence the entitlement mindset of needing the thanks of the 7 billion...