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I agree that there are many ignorant and amateurish members here. Surprisingly there are more Indian members than Pakistaniis on a Pakistani defence forum. It makes some people think that this site is run by Indians. You should not insult those ignorant members because they may ban you. What you should do is to get them banned for their insults by reporting to the moderator, if possible.

Also, if possible, take any criticism of Saudi "kings" in a positive way if the criticisms are meant to improve the state of Saudi, Arab and Muslim world. For example, I am against the Saudi kings' close relationship with the West/USA as I am also against the close relationship of Bangladesh or any Muslim country with the West/USA. There is no double standard in my criteria here.

I hope you also agree that Saudi Arabia is going through many changes and will improve a lot in the future, Inshallah. This means a lot of improvements can be made in Saudi Arabia already, so there is no need to be upset or angry. Many members are ignorant so they write a lot of nonsense, other members often wish Saudi Arabia well in reality.

Ummm No. I got a warning once for reporting someone so I stopped right there. :D
 
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Please. I have been here for months not a SINGLE PERSON was not a racist shmock who talks out of his a$$ based on stereotyping and pure Racism. People who are bashing Arabs on a regular basis get "Think Tank" status. people who praise Iran and worship it like fire (Seems appropriate to associate Persian with fire worship get it ;) ) get special status in the blink of an eye. Don't act like there is nothing going on there is SOMETHING. which is this forum is a propaganda den and stinks of lies and hypocrisy. No matter how many facts I put on the table a guy only comments with "LoL" and gets 1000 thanks. Okay is this how it is played here no problem two can play the same game. I am not a freaking one man army you know.

People do not worship Iran however we admire Iran for all it's successes and standing up to the west.
 
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Calm down ok.

I have not seen anybody cursing Westerners, Indians or Pakistanis in this forum as often as Arabs are cursed or insulted for no reason whatsoever. He has a good point. But I believe everybody should cooperate and use more polite language, and moderators should take strong action to improve the quality of the forum by banning ignorant and offensive members.
 
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I have not seen anybody cursing Westerners, Indians or Pakistanis in this forum as often as Arabs are cursed or insulted for no reason whatsoever. He has a good point. But I believe everybody should cooperate and use more polite language, and moderators should take strong action to improve the quality of the forum by banning ignorant and offensive members.

I tend to troll Pakistani's when I feel like it. I'm Egyptian German and yes I've been insulted called Americunt and other names. however I don't let that pull me down :D
 
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I have not seen anybody cursing Westerners, Indians or Pakistanis in this forum as often as Arabs are cursed or insulted for no reason whatsoever. He has a good point. But I believe everybody should cooperate and use more polite language, and moderators should take strong action to improve the quality of the forum by banning ignorant and offensive members.

Its mostly the newly accepted members who haven't been on this forum for a long time, they are very immature, also some bigoted members get to become Mods.
 
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Ummm No. I got a warning once for reporting someone so I stopped right there. :D

That is extremely disappointing and sad. There are plenty of Arabic-language fora/forums on the internet, and all I see there is undue praise for Turkey and Pakistan when many Turks insult Arabs daily as do many Pakistanis. At the same time, I see that plenty of Arabs, mostly Saudis and Gulf Arabs curse and insult any progress made by Iranians in the Arabic-language forums.

That attitude in those Arabic forums need a lot of changes, don't you agree? Why should you praise Turkey and Pakistan when they curse you? Why should your gov't cooperate with USA when you know what they do/did to Iraqis, Palestinians, other Arabs? Why is it you ONLY seem to ridicule any progress made by Iran but not any progress made by USA or other infidel/kafir nations? Why do you think so highly of Turkey and Pakistan when they think so lowly of you?

You see, it is the Arab public (In arabic defense forums) that need to change their views. You gain respect when you stand up for yourself. When many Arabs look up to Turkey, Pakistan or infidel Western countries, it is natural they would look down on you.

Arabs need to learn to respect themselves and stop admiring Turks, Pakistanis, and Westerners.
 
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That is extremely disappointing and sad. There are plenty of Arabic-language fora/forums on the internet, and all I see there is undue praise for Turkey and Pakistan when many Turks insult Arabs daily as do many Pakistanis. At the same time, I see that plenty of Arabs, mostly Saudis and Gulf Arabs curse and insult any progress made by Iranians in the Arabic-language forums.

That attitude in those Arabic forums need a lot of changes, don't you agree? Why should you praise Turkey and Pakistan when they curse you? Why should your gov't cooperate with USA when you know what they do/did to Iraqis, Palestinians, other Arabs? Why is it you ONLY seem to ridicule any progress made by Iran but not any progress made by USA or other infidel/kafir nations? Why do you think so highly of Turkey and Pakistan when they think so lowly of you?

You see, it is the Arab public (In arabic defense forums) that need to change their views. You gain respect when you stand up for yourself. When many Arabs look up to Turkey, Pakistan or infidel Western countries, it is natural they would look down on you.

Arabs need to learn to respect themselves and stop admiring Turks, Pakistanis, and Westerners.

Could not have said it better myself.
 
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Thanks but I am actually from Bangladesh. I picked one Muslim and one Non-Muslim countries' flags at random for joining this forum.
My bad, ia m a flag person, lol.. Nice meeting our brothers from Bangladesh, Pakistan and every Muslim nation.
 
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That is extremely disappointing and sad. There are plenty of Arabic-language fora/forums on the internet, and all I see there is undue praise for Turkey and Pakistan when many Turks insult Arabs daily as do many Pakistanis. At the same time, I see that plenty of Arabs, mostly Saudis and Gulf Arabs curse and insult any progress made by Iranians in the Arabic-language forums.

That attitude in those Arabic forums need a lot of changes, don't you agree? Why should you praise Turkey and Pakistan when they curse you? Why should your gov't cooperate with USA when you know what they do/did to Iraqis, Palestinians, other Arabs? Why is it you ONLY seem to ridicule any progress made by Iran but not any progress made by USA or other infidel/kafir nations? Why do you think so highly of Turkey and Pakistan when they think so lowly of you?

You see, it is the Arab public (In arabic defense forums) that need to change their views. You gain respect when you stand up for yourself. When many Arabs look up to Turkey, Pakistan or infidel Western countries, it is natural they would look down on you.

Arabs need to learn to respect themselves and stop admiring Turks, Pakistanis, and Westerners.

The funny thing is the accuse "US" (us as in we not united stated) here of being racist. Funny world we live in right??
 
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That is extremely disappointing and sad. There are plenty of Arabic-language fora/forums on the internet, and all I see there is undue praise for Turkey and Pakistan when many Turks insult Arabs daily as do many Pakistanis.
Your wrong there, most Pakistanis do not insult (hate) Arabs, the common man actually appreciates all the help the Arab countries extended to Pakistan during our times of need, however the common man does have problem with the Arab terrorists who are in Pakistan causing many problems, but we have nothing against average Arab. Secondly, its the so called "liberal" elite who like to bash Arabs (and not only Arabs but as well as Pakistanis) when it meets their agenda. Thirdly, no Muslims, no matter where what corner of the world he is from , would want war between two Muslim countries (in this case Saudi and Iran), which is why you will see many criticising Saudi Iranian animosity and the price that other Muslims have to pay, in the regards its not only Turks and Pakistanis who disagree with this unnecessary rivalry but as well as Egyptians and other Arabs as well.
 
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Nice meeting you too brother.

Ok Ok enough of this Mushy friendship, take it to the members sections :D, Mr Mosa I suggest we continue with this.

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Your wrong there, most Pakistanis do not insult (hate) Arabs, the common man actually appreciates all the help the Arab countries extended to Pakistan during our times of need, however the common man does have problem with the Arab terrorists who are in Pakistan causing many problems, but we have nothing against average Arab. Secondly, its the so called "liberal" elite who like to bash Arabs (and not only Arabs but as well as Pakistanis) when it meets their agenda. Thirdly, no Muslims, no matter where what corner of the world he is from , would want war between two Muslim countries (in this case Saudi and Iran), which is why you will see many criticising Saudi Iranian animosity and the price that other Muslims have to pay, in the regards its not only Turks and Pakistanis who disagree with this unnecessary rivalry but as well as Egyptians and other Arabs as well.

Actually there is no Arab Iran hate have to say this but Arabs are fine with Iran it's mostly the Arabs from the Gulf, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait that have a problem with Iran.
 
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Ok Ok enough of this Mushy friendship, take it to the members sections :D, Mr Mosa I suggest we continue with this.

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Actually there is no Arab Iran hate have to say this but Arabs are fine with Iran it's mostly the Arabs from the Gulf, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait that have a problem with Iran.


Only the Royals , not the average folks , mostly they are not sure what to make of it but they admire Iran's stance on Palestine
 
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Only the Royals , not the average folks , mostly they are not sure what to make of it but they admire Iran's stance on Palestine

Royals will be willing to work with anyone to maintain their power as you see in Bahrain. as the Sunni-Shia Issues also impact this.
 
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