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3 Reasons the Philippines Will Suffer Because of Its South China Sea Case Against China

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Even if it wins at The Hague, the Philippines will lose against China in the long run.

The arbitration case against China launched by the Philippines has attracted a lot of global media attention and global public opinion seems to support the Philippines’ case. However, a closer analysis reveals that the Philippines might in the end suffer from this arbitration case. How so? There are three main reasons for this.

First, there is no guarantee that the Philippines is going to win the arbitration case, even though media reports might suggest that it will. Actually, the Permanent Court of Arbitration at The Hague is being very careful now as it tries to determine whether it has the necessary jurisdiction in the first place. This is not good news for the Philippines. Part of the reason is that the Court understands the huge implications of its decision for not only China, but also for the international law of the sea in general.

The reasons for this are not too difficult to understand. Basically, China has stated openly many times already that it will not participate in the arbitration case and thus will not implement any decision made by the tribunal. Of course, the final decision is unlikely to be entirely favorable to the Philippines. The more likely case is that China will win some concessions and the Philippines will win some as well. Either way, China will not accept the decision. Given this, ruling on the case would put the tribunal and international law in a very awkward position simply because the tribunal has no effective means to enforce the decision. That also means that the tribunal, and perhaps international law itself, will lose a lot of credibility before international society (the last thing the tribunal wants to see). So in this case, if the Philippines wins, it still loses and if it loses, it will lose big time.

Second, the arbitration case has seriously hurt China-Philippines bilateral relations in recent years. Given China’s continuing rise in Asia, it is important for other Asian states maintain a workable, if not friendly, relationship with China. To put it bluntly, their economic fate is tied to China’s own development. It is not clear how the current cold relationship between China and the Philippines will affect Chinese investment interest in the Philippines, but it is certain that many Chinese firms, especially state firms, will think twice before they purchase any serious stakes in the Filipino economy. Even if the Philippines can win a case against China, in the end it might not be worth it, considering the economic costs of such a win, not to mention the potential costs of a military conflict.

Third, a very important factor behind the Philippines’ arbitration case against China is the support of the United States. U.S. support might not be as strong as many in the Philippines seem to believe. Although the Philippines is a U.S. ally, this does not mean that the U.S. will offer military assistance if a ugly territorial conflict occurs between China and the Philippines. Even with U.S. assistance, it is doubtful that the Philippines could win a potential conflict against China. It is true that the Philippines, being a small nation, might win some moral international support in a conflict with China, but such support means little in the realm of international politics. Most importantly, China is unlikely to be deterred by unfavorable international opinion.

To conclude, it was indeed a mistake for the Philippines to file an arbitration case against China, no matter how necessary it felt given the circumstances. Indeed, so far, the Philippines has only gained some moral support from a few countries. It is important for the Philippines to think about the long term consequences of such a confrontational strategy against China—China is a permanent neighbor, after all, and countries cannot escape their neighbors. In the end, it is up to China and the Philippines to sit down and resolve their conflicts with some outside help. Alas, this arbitration case has clearly ruined any such hope in the near future.

3 Reasons the Philippines Will Suffer Because of Its South China Sea Case Against China | The Diplomat
 
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I don't agree with the article at all.

Any nation has the right to go to The Hague on an issue it feels aggrieved about.

China is showing signs of nervousness.

I think PHL is doing well by challenging a local Goliath , this will set the tone for others too.
 
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I don't agree with the article at all.

Any nation has the right to go to The Hague on an issue it feels aggrieved about.

China is showing signs of nervousness.

I think PHL is doing well by challenging a local Goliath , this will set the tone for others too.

the article didn't discuss if Philippines had the right to do it or not.

They have every right to do it, just as we have the right to not participate, and treat Philippines like a hostile nation and corner them every chance we get, and lets not forget, they are not guaranteed to win, and even they do win, what are the chances of them getting a inch of territory back?
 
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the article didn't discuss if Philippines had the right to do it or not.

They have every right to do it, just as we have the right to not participate, and treat Philippines like a hostile nation and corner them every chance we get, and lets not forget, they are not guaranteed to win, and even they do win, what are the chances of them getting a inch of territory back?

The theme of the article seems to be to deter PHL because Big Brother China's path is being crossed.

Does China realise the huge negative effect of losing a case at the International Court ? I do not recall the the last time a permanent member of UN lost one .

The fact the China choses not to participate indicates the weak ground China knows its on.

VN will follow next.

China treated Taiwan as a renegade province - it does not seem to be any worse for it for all these decades.
 
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Silly article. Zubr in Manila will be the price of Pinoy's miscalculation.
 
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The theme of the article seems to be to deter PHL because Big Brother China's path is being crossed.

Does China realise the huge negative effect of losing a case at the International Court ? I do not recall the the last time a permanent member of UN lost one .

The fact the China choses not to participate indicates the weak ground China knows its on.

VN will follow next.

China treated Taiwan as a renegade province - it does not seem to be any worse for it for all these decades.

Exactly. UN is there to serve P5's interest. UNSC has never ruled against any of the P5 in UN history.

and seriously, you are gonna compare Taiwan with Philippines? China needed investment from Taiwan from 1980-2000, not the other way around LOL
 
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It is not the case one Island. If China won this, the aggressive attitude, power and claim for the whole Island in China Sea, the other country will find them self in bad and confused position.
 
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Even if it wins at The Hague, the Philippines will lose against China in the long run.

The arbitration case against China launched by the Philippines has attracted a lot of global media attention and global public opinion seems to support the Philippines’ case. However, a closer analysis reveals that the Philippines might in the end suffer from this arbitration case. How so? There are three main reasons for this.

First, there is no guarantee that the Philippines is going to win the arbitration case, even though media reports might suggest that it will. Actually, the Permanent Court of Arbitration at The Hague is being very careful now as it tries to determine whether it has the necessary jurisdiction in the first place. This is not good news for the Philippines. Part of the reason is that the Court understands the huge implications of its decision for not only China, but also for the international law of the sea in general.

The reasons for this are not too difficult to understand. Basically, China has stated openly many times already that it will not participate in the arbitration case and thus will not implement any decision made by the tribunal. Of course, the final decision is unlikely to be entirely favorable to the Philippines. The more likely case is that China will win some concessions and the Philippines will win some as well. Either way, China will not accept the decision. Given this, ruling on the case would put the tribunal and international law in a very awkward position simply because the tribunal has no effective means to enforce the decision. That also means that the tribunal, and perhaps international law itself, will lose a lot of credibility before international society (the last thing the tribunal wants to see). So in this case, if the Philippines wins, it still loses and if it loses, it will lose big time.

Second, the arbitration case has seriously hurt China-Philippines bilateral relations in recent years. Given China’s continuing rise in Asia, it is important for other Asian states maintain a workable, if not friendly, relationship with China. To put it bluntly, their economic fate is tied to China’s own development. It is not clear how the current cold relationship between China and the Philippines will affect Chinese investment interest in the Philippines, but it is certain that many Chinese firms, especially state firms, will think twice before they purchase any serious stakes in the Filipino economy. Even if the Philippines can win a case against China, in the end it might not be worth it, considering the economic costs of such a win, not to mention the potential costs of a military conflict.

Third, a very important factor behind the Philippines’ arbitration case against China is the support of the United States. U.S. support might not be as strong as many in the Philippines seem to believe. Although the Philippines is a U.S. ally, this does not mean that the U.S. will offer military assistance if a ugly territorial conflict occurs between China and the Philippines. Even with U.S. assistance, it is doubtful that the Philippines could win a potential conflict against China. It is true that the Philippines, being a small nation, might win some moral international support in a conflict with China, but such support means little in the realm of international politics. Most importantly, China is unlikely to be deterred by unfavorable international opinion.

To conclude, it was indeed a mistake for the Philippines to file an arbitration case against China, no matter how necessary it felt given the circumstances. Indeed, so far, the Philippines has only gained some moral support from a few countries. It is important for the Philippines to think about the long term consequences of such a confrontational strategy against China—China is a permanent neighbor, after all, and countries cannot escape their neighbors. In the end, it is up to China and the Philippines to sit down and resolve their conflicts with some outside help. Alas, this arbitration case has clearly ruined any such hope in the near future.

3 Reasons the Philippines Will Suffer Because of Its South China Sea Case Against China | The Diplomat

This article ignores one point and the biggest reality: Philippines and Vietnam occupy most those islands while China control only 10 islands. This is the reason Philippines and Vietnam are now so aggressive in SCS disputes. In cold war, especially 1970's China's 9-dash line didn't stop their invasion, so they mainly attack the line recent years. Without using forces, how can we take back those occupied islands or they withdraw by themselves? The article didn't provide any solutions, fool us.
 
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How can it , when they have a veto !!!

I see a lot of nervousness amongst the Chinese on this subject.

China urges the Philippines to withdraw UN case, return to bilateral talks on disputed sea

that is what this article tried to say, of course Philippines has right to take legal action in the Hague, but it may not be the best course of action and Philippines has nothing to gain but lots to lose, because Philippines lacks any ability to change the status quo, while the only party who would benefactor would be USA.
 
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How can it , when they have a veto !!!

I see a lot of nervousness amongst the Chinese on this subject.

China urges the Philippines to withdraw UN case, return to bilateral talks on disputed sea

Yes, it's nervous for parts invloved. Chinese cherish these 30 years peace era very much, cooperate with most nations in the world well, develop fastest. Philippines challenge China too much. In the whole human history, this is the first time one such weak nation challenge, even provoke much stronger counterpart this way.Check when did it happen last time?
Why bilateral talks can't be considered by Filipinos? China not ask Philippines to declare war, China invite it to talk. It's weird they refuse it so completely. Not all nations has the chance of bilateral talks. UK don't talk with Argentina, Spain; Russia don't talk with Japan, Vietnam don't talk with Cambodia, while Philippines refuse the chance.
Yes, the world sympathize the weak, but the world won't sympathize the aggressive weak.
 
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Ph can ally wt VN to counter CN. If US troops dont fight wt u, then u can offer VN troops to fight wt :cheers:
 
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Yes, it's nervous for parts invloved. Chinese cherish these 30 years peace era very much, cooperate with most nations in the world well, develop fastest. Philippines challenge China too much. In the whole human history, this is the first time one such weak nation challenge, even provoke much stronger counterpart this way.Check when did it happen last time?
Why bilateral talks can't be considered by Filipinos? China not ask Philippines to declare war, China invite it to talk. It's weird they refuse it so completely. Not all nations has the chance of bilateral talks. UK don't talk with Argentina, Spain; Russia don't talk with Japan, Vietnam don't talk with Cambodia, while Philippines refuse the chance.
Yes, the world sympathize the weak, but the world won't sympathize the aggressive weak.

Thank you for your post.

China needs to see how other nations see it in context of the Chinese stand on South China Sea issue.

Why are you seeing it as a challenge ?

Usually low-rank officials talk on the subject. And it makes headlines. A sign for nervousness. But nervousness on part of who, I am not sure.
Low rank ?

It is definitely nervousness on part of China
 
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