3 Palestinians shot(1 killed, one in critical condition) in West Bank

[VCheng]

When speaking about proportions then it does but my example is even too mild for the Israeli side.

Fact of the matter is that Israel keeps building more illegal settlements in the West Bank deliberately which is a clear sign of them not wanting a two-state solution. Something they babble about in public to fool the world. Israel is a rogue apartheid state. Both Palestinians and Israelis deserve better.

The settlements are clearly illegal, and will be part of an eventual resolution undoubtedly.

 

[al-Hasani]

The settlements are clearly illegal, and will be part of an eventual settlement undoubtedly.

Just like the dozens of Palestinian cities and villages in what is now Israel that were forcibly deserted and which now will never be Palestinian majority cities again? You have a too naive look at this conflict.

Israel is the party with the most resources, the best opportunities to commit to a real peace process and two state solution, best geared to work towards that yet Israel keeps acting like a rogue apartheid state and saying one thing in public but doing another thing entirely behind closed doors.

Those illegal settlements are there to stay.

Those illegal settlers are one of the most radical groups in Israel and are hellbent on staying. They openly proclaim that they will never leave.

 

[Falcon29]

The settlements are clearly illegal, and will be part of an eventual settlement undoubtedly.

Thank you for your insight. You can now browse other threads in form. While at it, maybe consider putting your Pakistani flag back up.

 

[VCheng]

Just like the dozens of Palestinian cities and villages in what is now Israel that were forcibly deserted and which now will never be Palestinian majority cities again? You have a too naive look at this conflict.

Israel is the party with the most resources, the best opportunities to commit to a real peace process and two state solution, best geared to work towards that yet Israel keeps acting like a rogue apartheid state and saying one thing in public but doing another thing entirely behind closed doors.

Those illegal settlements are there to stay.

Those illegal settlers are one of the most radical groups in Israel and are hellbent on staying.

For all its advantages, it is quite clear that Israel cannot enjoy any lasting peace or prosperity without resolving its issues with the Palestinian people. A two state solution is inevitable, but the real question is how we get to it.

 

[al-Hasani]

For all its advantages, it is quite clear that Israel cannot enjoy any lasting peace or prosperity without resolving its issues with the Palestinian people. A two state solution is inevitable, but the real question is how we get to it.

Surely not by building illegal settlements (there is a consensus about that among international lawyers and experts on international law), mass-killing Palestinians every 1-2 years, denying them basic rights and all the other daily violations that only breed hatred.

People talk about how Hamas does not recognize Israel. What about the Israeli public? Many don't recognize Palestine. Even here on PDF. Let alone the people in power in Israel who are obviously not committed to a real two-state solution.

Clearly something is totally wrong.

Palestinians face more injustice than 99,9% of all Israelis.

I suggest, once again, to watch that documentary. It will open your eyes.

Israel is the strongest party here and the one that must do the hardest part of the work here due to that. The current situation will just make it worse and worse. Each conflict gets more radical the longer it lasts. It's a miracle that not more bloodshed is happening.

 

[Gufi]

Thank you for your insight. You can now browse other threads in form. While at it, maybe consider putting your Pakistani flag back up.

Pakistani flagged people support your cause. And this daily killing is part of the Israeli plan to slowly kill off Palestinians till they revolt against the occupiers making way for more killings

 

[VCheng]

.............
Clearly something is totally wrong.
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It is also clear that there are two sides to this conflict and two points of view that diverge in many places. The art of negotiations is to create areas of convergence so that an eventual two state solution is possible. For this to happen, both sides must learn to accommodate some things to get some other things they desire.

 

[al-Hasani]

It is also clear that there are two sides to this conflict and two points of view that diverge in many places. The art of negotiations is to create areas of convergence so that an eventual two state solution is possible. For this to happen, both sides must learn to accommodate some things to get some other things they desire.

Israel has the bigger responsibility for the reasons I mentioned and they are also the ones that are doing most of the violations and atrocities. By far actually. Ultimately both groups need to talk together and try to solve the problem.

Why are those illegal Israeli settlers not referred to as terrorists? That's what they are in reality.

Actually this damn conflict has been a breeding ground for almost 90% of all other conflicts in the ME for the past 70 years. This is why, among many other things, that we care so much about ending it. That's why we won't it to end. Especially in the Arab world. We are also tired of it. Nobody is more tired of it than Palestinians and then Israelis.

 

[VCheng]

......... Ultimately both groups need to talk together and try to solve the problem..................

Ultimately both groups need to talk together and try to solve the problem. I agree 100%.

 

[Selous]

@Syed.Ali.Haider please change your name...that way at least when you defend the Zionists so blatantly it will not break our hearts to see a Muslim name attached to the post. Thank you.

 

[Falcon29]

Europe, US to offer Israel, Palestine economic benefits - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East

The Palestinians were also offered by the United States a $4 billion economic package.

Wow, thank you. Sell our whole cause for a useless so called 'economic package'. Your compensations should equate to Holocaust compensations.

According to a senior diplomatic source in Brussels, a peace process initiative, which will be proposed by France and Great Britain in coordination with the United States,

Exactly what world needs.

The nations that handed over Palestine to Illegal Jewish immigrants and armed Israel with nuclear weapons are the most reliable brokers here. France, UK which have largest history of colonialism in mankind should somehow be trusted over Sweden, Ireland, Norway, Spain, etc...

On the security issue, European policy officials have considered proposing the deployment of Egyptian forces in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip in coordination with the Palestinians and the Israelis.

Put forces to protect Palestinian borders along 67 lines. Nothing else is acceptable. If you UK/FRance/US dogs even think of planning assault on Gaza from now the gates of hell will open on every Jew in the whole entire world and you will bring EU/US to complete civil war/crash. You better have limits when it comes to bending over to your Jewish masters. You are shame on Voiltare and all honorable Europeans.

Pakistani flagged people support your cause. And this daily killing is part of the Israeli plan to slowly kill off Palestinians till they revolt against the occupiers making way for more killings

I'm implying the troll is a traitor to Pakistan. And many other Pakistanis consider him troll here too.

 

[FaujHistorian]

I'm implying the troll is a traitor to Pakistan. And many other Pakistanis consider him troll here too.

rational, peaceful, voices that oppose mainstream / prevalent militant view are suppressed using the same logic.

Call them traitor and shut them up

 

[Falcon29]

rational, peaceful, voices that oppose mainstream / prevalent militant view are suppressed using the same logic.

Call them traitor and shut them up

he was deported from Pakistan.

 

[Falcon29]

-Israeli forces raid home of PFLP leader in Nablus, West Bank, explosions/gunshots heard

 

[Gunsnroses]

Israel is disgrace on humanity. Rip died one and speedy recovery who are in critical condition. The idea is to do genocide of the new generation as much as possible so that less young people are left to make struggle against the tyrant.

Yes, where is Germany who opposed the hanging of innocent militants in Pakistani jails? Where is Amnesty and so called peace loving nations now?