3 more killed in South Kashmir as militants step up attacks on outsiders

[masterchief_mirza]

Do you think their plan will succeed? Especially with Pakistan as their neighbour? Will Pakistan army let this happen?

Like I said earlier, this makes it different to the Arab-Israeli conflicts. Pakistan deals bloody noses regularly to the Hindutva scumlords. If PAF can retain a technological edge, if PA can close the numerical gap with trained militias from the many willing volunteers in Pakistan, if China would be willing to at least build up troops at its border to draw some Indian soldiers away without necessarily joining a conflict, if there will be guaranteed support from all the local IOK resistance groups....with all that in place, why the heck shouldn't we attack India on humanitarian grounds to liberate the people of Kashmir.

Russia has done this in Crimea and continues to support insurgencies of ethnic Russians elsewhere. Pakistan should look up to the Russian model. Turkey too seems to have had minor successes so far in the same type of war. Of course, India is not Ukraine or Syria.....but it also isn't Israel or USA. If PAF can get immediate air superiority, we can punch into the valley.

I think IK is sensible and won't rush into wars Willy nilly. The real problem is though that we may be forced to if a nakba occurs. Therefore, the above contingency plan (or some better one) to actually conventionally attack Hindustan MUST be in place, so that we know we are ready for all eventualities. The one thing I still disagree with IK on is his constant repetitions that we are ready to "defend Pakistan" but "we don't want war"... No, we should say all options remain open, and without stating explicitly, we should imply that we are prepared to conduct an OFFENSIVE war to liberate Kashmir if necessary.

 

[Cygnus Black]

Like I said earlier, this makes it different to the Arab-Israeli conflicts. Pakistan deals bloody noses regularly to the Hindutva scumlords. If PAF can retain a technological edge, if PA can close the numerical gap with trained militias from the many willing volunteers in Pakistan, if China would be willing to at least build up troops at its border to draw some Indian soldiers away without necessarily joining a conflict, if there will be guaranteed support from all the local IOK resistance groups....with all that in place, why the heck shouldn't we attack India on humanitarian grounds to liberate the people of Kashmir.

Russia has done this in Crimea and continues to support insurgencies of ethnic Russians elsewhere. Pakistan should look up to the Russian model. Turkey too seems to have had minor successes so far in the same type of war. Of course, India is not Ukraine or Syria.....but it also isn't Israel or USA. If PAF can get immediate air superiority, we can punch into the valley.

I think IK is sensible and won't rush into wars Willy nilly. The real problem is though that we may be forced to if a nakba occurs. Therefore, the above contingency plan (or some better one) to actually conventionally attack Hindustan MUST be in place, so that we know we are ready for all eventualities. The one thing I still disagree with IK on is his constant repetitions that we are ready to "defend Pakistan" but "we don't want war"... No, we should say all options remain open, and without stating explicitly, we should imply that we are prepared to conduct an OFFENSIVE war to liberate Kashmir if necessary.

I agree India isn't Israel, but Pakistan isn't exactly like Iran either. Israel isn't afraid of any of its Arab neighbors but it's shit scared of Iran. Therefore I think, in order to really scare off India, Pakistan should become more like Iran. It's SOOO easy for Pakistan if it REALLY wants to. There are 200 million Muslims in India whom we can turn into our mercenaries, if Imran Khan is willing to become their "Khomenei".

 

[Crusher]

This is the first time Kashmiris have attacked civilians. All because of fear of ethnic cleansing by outsiders.

This can happen when an ethnicity starts to feel "existential threat" in their own land where their ancestors have lived for countless generations.

And turn Kashmiris in to ISIS, take the fight to streets of India instead of IoK. They will start with soft targets to get back at Indian civilians who support ethnic cleansing by voting BJP.

Pakistan will watch from far away as it happen. Good luck Bharat.

Haven't we seen the exodus of "punjabi muslim settlers" from Balochistan because Baloch militants saw them as "soft target". Generally the militants in Kashmir have always avoided the soft targets like indian bhayya labourers from UP, Bihar, chhatisgarh etc. (these bhayyas go for labour to every inch of India), it seems like the militants in Kashmir want to follow the Baloch militant approach of taking on the soft targets belonging to their enemy state of India that are present inside Kashmir valley.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Bhakts will still say it was an amazing move. Blind as they are.

But be rest assured, this is going to further discredit the Kashmiri movement in front of the global community. This will actually help India in some ways.

 

[Kabira]

Bhakts will still say it was an amazing move. Blind as they are.

But be rest assured, this is going to further discredit the Kashmiri movement in front of the global community. This will actually help India in some ways.

As long as Pakistan isnt involved. This time no chance for stooges along with India to put blame on Pakistan. We cannot stop Kashmiris to self defence.

 

[SleeveofWizard]

Bhakts will still say it was an amazing move. Blind as they are.

But be rest assured, this is going to further discredit the Kashmiri movement in front of the global community. This will actually help India in some ways.

It wasn't an "amazing move", but it wasn't too bad either. Why should Ladakh and Jammu's development suffer for 70 years, they have no interest in separatism and want full economic integration with India. They aren't exactly insignificant, they account for around 35-40% of the population of the entire state and cannot be held hostage by the other 60%. The best move in my opinion would have been to divide the state into 3 - Jammu, Ladakh and Kashmir, letting the Kashmiris keep their article 370 while removing it from the other 2 states.

 

[Kaniska]

In two separate incidents in south Kashmir, a labourer from Chhattisgarh and two traders from Punjab were attacked by militants Wednesday.
https://theprint.in/india/3-killed-south-kashmir-militants-attack-outsiders/306855/

This is exactly Indian gov was saying from the beginning

Bhakts will still say it was an amazing move. Blind as they are.

But be rest assured, this is going to further discredit the Kashmiri movement in front of the global community. This will actually help India in some ways.

how come you are so smart to know the statergy of BJP??
Every civillian who will loose life in this conflict will enforce the idea from Gov that forced internet and phone to be banned from valley

 

[masterchief_mirza]

I agree India isn't Israel, but Pakistan isn't exactly like Iran either. Israel isn't afraid of any of its Arab neighbors but it's shit scared of Iran. Therefore I think, in order to really scare off India, Pakistan should become more like Iran. It's SOOO easy for Pakistan if it REALLY wants to. There are 200 million Muslims in India whom we can turn into our mercenaries, if Imran Khan is willing to become their "Khomenei".

Excellent idea....but will never happen.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

It wasn't an "amazing move", but it wasn't too bad either. Why should Ladakh and Jammu's development suffer for 70 years, they have no interest in separatism and want full economic integration with India. They aren't exactly insignificant, they account for around 35-40% of the population of the entire state and cannot be held hostage by the other 60%. The best move in my opinion would have been to divide the state into 3 - Jammu, Ladakh and Kashmir, letting the Kashmiris keep their article 370 while removing it from the other 2 states.

I am not against the idea of division of the state but removing Article 370 without consulting their leaders as was required by Article 370 itself. I had a problem with the latter, not with the former. Anyway, it's done now.

how come you are so smart to know the statergy of BJP??
Every civillian who will loose life in this conflict will enforce the idea from Gov that forced internet and phone to be banned from valley

I honestly don't think that the BJP even has a strategy. Amit Shah just does things without thinking about the repercussions or aftermath or how to control it. Reminds one of demonetisation.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

This is exactly Indian gov was saying from the beginning

Nope. Indian government said everything is awesome in Kashmir and the only problem for kashmiris was Pakistan. Modi said Kashmir was all hugs and saffron shawls, Apples and tulip gardens.

 

[Kabira]

I agree India isn't Israel, but Pakistan isn't exactly like Iran either. Israel isn't afraid of any of its Arab neighbors but it's shit scared of Iran. Therefore I think, in order to really scare off India, Pakistan should become more like Iran. It's SOOO easy for Pakistan if it REALLY wants to. There are 200 million Muslims in India whom we can turn into our mercenaries, if Imran Khan is willing to become their "Khomenei".

We should only care about Kashmiri muslims. Pakistan can help them in many ways without militants going from this side. Which will open eyes of many Kashmiri stooges we see on twitter who also put blame of these attacks on imaginary Pakistanis to look good in the eyes of those who want ethnic cleansing of them. And if Kashmiris now have decided to target civilians then they dont even need military training or latest weapons. This is endgame now. India will not be able to bare cost of removing article 370.

 

[Cygnus Black]

We should only care about Kashmiri muslims. Pakistan can help them in many ways without militants going from this side. Which will open eyes of many Kashmiri stooges we see on twitter who also put blame of these attacks on imaginary Pakistanis to look good in the eyes of those who want ethnic cleansing of them. And if Kashmiris now have decided to target civilians then they dont even need military training or latest weapons. This is endgame now. India will not be able to bare cost of removing article 370.

I agree but if the Pakistani state can spend only a tiny fraction of what we spend on Kashmir, for cultivating Indian Muslims, it will have a TREMENDOUS force multiplier effect.

There are about 500-600 mini-Kashmirs spread all over India ripe for an "Intifada".

 

[Kaniska]

Nope. Indian government said everything is awesome in Kashmir and the only problem for kashmiris was Pakistan. Modi said Kashmir was all hugs and saffron shawls, Apples and tulip gardens.

Kashmir valley was screwing rest of India for 70 years...Now Central Gov is just screwing the valley completely...In war zone when people talk about human right and civility, it is like a joke..Same thing is happening in Kashmir...The reason there are few takers in India for 370 is due to the fact that Kashmir was already in war even before August 5...

I agree but if the Pakistani state can spend only a tiny fraction of what we spend on Kashmir, for cultivating Indian Muslims, it will have a TREMENDOUS force multiplier effect.

There are about 500-600 mini-Kashmirs spread all over India ripe for an "Intifada".

Guys...Which world you live in??? A muslimm Pakistan has 2 closest friend...One is atheist China and secular Turkey..Does it ring any bail in your mind?? Pakistan is not at the best of the relationship with a Muslim Afanistan and Iran...Pakistan can not stay together with Muslim Bangladesh...

if religion is a factor to be friends or foes then entire middle east will be a heavenly place...People who so learn the mistake from history, will always put their own failure on others...
Indian Muslim are our people who will defend their country...IndianMuslim may have issues against few crazy elements of my country but that does not make them to be a siding with Pakistan...

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Kashmir valley was screwing rest of India for 70 years...Now Central Gov is just screwing the valley completely...

What a fascinating interpretation of Kashmir's history. Such revisionism! Writing off Delhi's war against kashmiri democracy on a whim

 

[Kaniska]

What a fascinating interpretation of Kashmir's history. Such revisionism! Writing off Delhi's war against kashmiri democracy on a whim

Do not you know that we such a bad people???