2nd Mass Shooting in 14 Hours - 9 Dead - Dayton Ohio

[YeBeWarned]

Better than you do.

You asked in post 26: 'i am here to see if you can provide statistics here how many race related killings happen in US and other countries.'

That is being lazy, especially so when you have an American invention call the Internet.

https://fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra_uploads/fra-2018-hate-crime-recording_en.pdf

What is a 'bias' crime?


Start with page 50 with France and Germany. Then page 72 with the Netherlands. Then page 86 with Sweden. Then page 90 with the UK. We are looking at THOUSANDS of individual based 'biased' crimes. The few countries that bothered to record and report -- started with the definition that came from the US. Most of the EU countries do not record and report, so now the EU has to contend with the harsh reality that racially charged crimes are actually UNDERREPORTED in the EU.

Dude...Do you have any clue at all?

even if for argument sake we agree that EU has more Race related mass shootings/crimes but how does that negate the fact that White nationalist/Neo Nazi's are global threat ? the argument still standing no matter where they are , or where they do their home grown terrorism , they are and will be the biggest challenge and threat to global peace .
And trust me my posts are far more clear than yours, cause i stick to my point at topic .. from the very first post , You make it confusing by bringing China into it .

Personally I don't want racial or religious attacks anywhere let alone America where I intend to live and raise my kids, I will be in heart of South in America so I will be living among White people, along with my wife and future Kids, so me concerning on this issues is 100% genuine cause I don't want to die at hand of some crazy white Nationalist who believe that I came there to invade or convert him, or America belong to only Whites .

 

[gambit]

even if for argument sake we agree that EU has more Race related mass shootings/crimes...

No, it is not merely "for argument's sake". It is the truth and an uncomfortable one for you who are too lazy to do even basic research.

You calling on the Chinese members here is hilarious. The PDF Chinese racial attacks on the Viets and the Indians are clues to the greater attitude the Chinese have towards other races, particularly the Asiatics. The Chinese love the whites, Chinese girls love to date white men. The Chinese reviles the blacks and openly racially contemptuous of the other Asiatics. China do not have much race related individual crimes like the US and the EU, but China have state sponsored oppression of other minorities which they have managed to convince you that China is kind and benevolent towards those minorities. JPN started one racial war. China will start the next.

 

[YeBeWarned]

No, it is not merely "for argument's sake". It is the truth and an uncomfortable one for you who are too lazy to do even basic research.

You calling on the Chinese members here is hilarious. The PDF Chinese racial attacks on the Viets and the Indians are clues to the greater attitude the Chinese have towards other races, particularly the Asiatics. The Chinese love the whites, Chinese girls love to date white men. The Chinese reviles the blacks and openly racially contemptuous of the other Asiatics. China do not have much race related individual crimes like the US and the EU, but China have state sponsored oppression of other minorities which they have managed to convince you that China is kind and benevolent towards those minorities. JPN started one racial war. China will start the next.

Actually it is, I stand correct in my assessment and its there for everyone to see, excluding Blind patriots like you. I provided link from your own people of the Statistics of Hate crimes (Racially Motivated) ones and you ignore it like Always, You bring China and EU while almost every week there is a Mass shooting in America from which many of them are Racially motivated . I did my research, I have people to back me up, media reports, articles etc . What you have is just "Whataboutry " .

Again my friend you miss the whole point, I tagged Chinese members to ask them how many Racially Motivated Mass shooting happen in China in last 5 years, I am not talking about General Racism , These White Nationalist who are slaughtering people are not normal Racists, they are extremists like ISIS/AQ . They hate anyone and everyone who is not white or support their Racist Agenda . As for China's state sponsor Crimes, that has nothing to do with Global threat, so far its just reports and Propaganda coming from unverified sources, if we believe everything over Internet than America will be in spotlight for a lot of crimes against Humanity .
China does not have to convince me of anything, China is just another Ally of Pakistan like America , Sri Lanka , Malaysia . I have no intention of Living in China nor I have anyone living in China, so you constantly bringing China into this conversation proves that you are just trying to dodge the facts .
Even in EU as you mentioned a lot of Racially motivated Crimes go un-reported , Once again I am asking you how many Racially motivated ( MASS SHOOTINGS ) happen in EU ? or you are saying that EU is hiding MASS SHOOTINGS by not reporting ? Any European can confirm this ?

I am surprised how much effort you are putting to defend those White Nationalists, Neo Nazi/KKK who kill people just because they are blacks , Latino , or attack Muslims Mosques .. It remind me of the same people who supported AQ and ISIS actions by justifying it with America/NATO invasion of Middle east .

 

[gambit]

What you have is just "Whataboutry " .

What I provided is balance.

When you said this back in post 26: "i am here to see if you can provide statistics here how many race related killings happen in US and other countries."

You were supremely confident that such race related crimes is less than US. You wanted to make racially charged crimes uniquely American. As it turned out, it is even worse in the EU. No American on this forum deny that we have our own race problems, especially when it comes to crimes. But people like you are so blinded by your hatred for US that you ignore far worse problems in your own countries. Like I said often, you need US to escape the shitty problems you are currently in, no matter how brief that escape maybe.

So yes, what about the EU with their far worse racial problems?

 

[YeBeWarned]

What I provided is balance.

When you said this back in post 26: "i am here to see if you can provide statistics here how many race related killings happen in US and other countries."

You were supremely confident that such race related crimes is less than US. You wanted to make racially charged crimes uniquely American. As it turned out, it is even worse in the EU. No American on this forum deny that we have our own race problems, especially when it comes to crimes. But people like you are so blinded by your hatred for US that you ignore far worse problems in your own countries. Like I said often, you need US to escape the shitty problems you are currently in, no matter how brief that escape maybe.

So yes, what about the EU with their far worse racial problems?

You didn't provide anything instead you bring China into it .

And yet you are not even able to provide a single Evidence of Racially motivated MASS SHOOTING ? I am still waiting for it .

Again, you are taking one line of my post and responding to that ignoring much of my post . I feel sorry for people like you , You say EU is worse so where is a evidence of few Mass shootings in Europe ? When was last time Latino's, Blacks or Muslims were murdered in numbers ? no please don't bring Veit, India, China or any other country into it

Oh yes, I was waiting for this sentence, Trust me we enjoy this from the likes of YOU You hate America, You are blind blah blah blah , oh and so far all you are doing is denying the Racially motivated violence inside America and yet you bring half the world to save your sorry state hahahaha , and as for my country and its problem we acknowledge it, we are working towards solving it, unlike you Dumbo's who deny that problem exists in the first place lol And trust me right now, after the Military Operation its unlikely that one die from terrorism in Pakistan but get killed by a Crazy White Nationalist/KKK/Neo Nazi .

I am enjoying it that how this whole Forum can see your Dumbo arguments One of the reason i tag some Chinese members by the way, any other country you want to throw its name here ? just to escape reality ? I can help you with some names Australia, NZ,Germany,Israel , KSA ,Iran ,Afghanistan

 

[VCheng]

What I provided is balance.

When you said this back in post 26: "i am here to see if you can provide statistics here how many race related killings happen in US and other countries."

You were supremely confident that such race related crimes is less than US. You wanted to make racially charged crimes uniquely American. As it turned out, it is even worse in the EU. No American on this forum deny that we have our own race problems, especially when it comes to crimes. But people like you are so blinded by your hatred for US that you ignore far worse problems in your own countries. Like I said often, you need US to escape the shitty problems you are currently in, no matter how brief that escape maybe.

So yes, what about the EU with their far worse racial problems?

What you fail to ask here is why the person you are replying to is moving to USA, by marrying, and not to China or Europe. If USA were as bad in terms of white racist nationalism as he makes it out to be, what could explain his own hypocritical behavior?

 

[gambit]

You didn't provide anything instead you bring China into it

No, I brought the EU into it, just like you asked back in post 26.

As it turned out, the EU have far worse racially charged crimes than we do, even if we take in guns.

Here is Germany...

https://fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra_uploads/fra-2018-hate-crime-recording_en.pdf

In 2017, the US mass shooting deaths was 345.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

But as we can see in Germany, racially biased crimes was 1300. How many of that 1300 were deaths? Am sure we can find out. But that is not the point, which is supposedly the US is rife with white nationalists shooting everywhere.

The Euros are not going to be concerned with how many mass shooting deaths in the US, but rather the implications of that 1300 racially biased crimes regardless of how many deaths from those crimes. Thirteen hundred racially charged crimes just from Germany alone. And this is the country that started two world wars and tried to exterminate an entire people in the process.

I feel sorry for people like you...

No, I do not care for your pity. Instead, you should care for mine for your Pakistan is even worse in many ways.

 

[YeBeWarned]

No, I brought the EU into it, just like you asked back in post 26.

As it turned out, the EU have far worse racially charged crimes than we do, even if we take in guns.

Here is Germany...

https://fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra_uploads/fra-2018-hate-crime-recording_en.pdf

In 2017, the US mass shooting deaths was 345.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

But as we can see in Germany, racially biased crimes was 1300. How many of that 1300 were deaths? Am sure we can find out. But that is not the point, which is supposedly the US is rife with white nationalists shooting everywhere.

The Euros are not going to be concerned with how many mass shooting deaths in the US, but rather the implications of that 1300 racially biased crimes regardless of how many deaths from those crimes. Thirteen hundred racially charged crimes just from Germany alone. And this is the country that started two world wars and tried to exterminate an entire people in the process.


No, I do not care for your pity. Instead, you should care for mine for your Pakistan is even worse in many ways.

Here is statistics for America
https://www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/hate-crime-statistics

4131 race related incidents .

You know you are trying to bring other countries into this because you want to some how prove that I am been biased against America , which is not true .. I have hold on to my position that White Nationalist are global threat where they are , I said the same thing after NZ shooting and Canadian Mosque shooting these are most recent examples .

What differ America with other countries is that I have no intention or family there, Nor I am planning to move there , my concerned is with America and how things are turning out in America , Forget about me been scared of these crazy white nationalist even my Wife is now scared for her life in America .

Yes Pakistan is worse in many ways than America but its still better in many other ways than America . We don't have people killing masses of innocent civilians because they are of different skin color , or want to see a specific race as slaves , or see an invasion going on .. we also have a illegal immigration crisis with Afghans but how many Mass shootings you can count in Pakistan which specifically Target Afghans ? ? I still feel sorry for your state of denial .

 

[gambit]

You know you are trying to bring other countries into this because you want to some how prove that I am been biased against America , which is not true ..

Bullshit. It is true. In post 14 you tried to make it as if the US is a major contributor to the rise in white nationalism. I proved you wrong because the TRENDING evidences for that threat is in Europe. In post 26 you were supremely confident that racially based crimes are greater in the US than anywhere else. I proved you wrong as well and I did with a non-US source.

Yes Pakistan is worse in many ways than America but its still better in many other ways than America .

Yeah...You go on believing that.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Bullshit. It is true. In post 14 you tried to make it as if the US is a major contributor to the rise in white nationalism. I proved you wrong because the TRENDING evidences for that threat is in Europe. In post 26 you were supremely confident that racially based crimes are greater in the US than anywhere else. I proved you wrong as well and I did with a non-US source.

Come on dude, you get hyper .. You might not understand my point which is not my fault, but I always USA has this white nationalism problem, I did not even say that this issue originate in America, after all American whites are majority comes from Europe . Second you proved nothing dear, you just show the Germany has significant racially motivated crimes but death toll or mass shooting ? no answer .. yeah beating up immigrants or knife attacks are race related crimes but not as deadly as US shootings of El Paso , Black Church shooting, 2 attacks on Jewish temples and many more . if you see the comparison of death toll US is way ahead in such cases . And again I have never claimed or said that this White nationalism issue is specifically American , I said it countless but you refused to acknowledge that I say, Where ever they are , they are a threat to Global peace . Even Poland has seen a massive rally of Far right few years back which see thousands of people came out , I criticize that too, i have same opinion on that too Yes these people are threat to minorities, and they will eventually use violence .
So Sweetie you are proven yet again Wrong

Yeah...You go on believing that.

Yes i do, At least in Pakistan Black people are not killed for walking away from Police, Walking towards Police, Raising up hands , laying down on floor, or Black kid holding a BB gun, or a Black security Guard who stopped the shooter later Police killed him . We don't have Black Lives matter in Pakistan So we are doing better than you there

 

[YeBeWarned]

https://www.facebook.com/

@gambit what do you think of this man ?

 

[oprih]

Rip to the victims who are mostly minorities, the international community condemns murican government and the white muricans for their continued violence against the minorities.

 

[khail007]

USA is butchering humans around the globe posing them as terrorists. USA own cultivated crop of terrorists at home is killing their own citizen. This all happening from within ... it is nature's revenge.

 

[gambit]

Come on dude, you get hyper ..

Actually, the person who really got 'hyper' is YOU. Look at yourself in this thread. The evidence -- compiled by non-Americans -- are against you.

If you want to talk about mass shooting, maybe you have a point, but you went beyond that by bringing race into the discussion, and I accommodated you with statistics that you cannot tolerate. Mass shooters are nearly always psychologically problematic and individualistic, meaning we deal with the events as persons based. On the other hand, racial issues are groups based. So when you brought in race in post 14, you opened the door for me and I stepped thru.

Yes i do, At least in Pakistan Black people are not killed for walking away from Police, Walking towards Police, Raising up hands , laying down on floor, or Black kid holding a BB gun, or a Black security Guard who stopped the shooter later Police killed him . We don't have Black Lives matter in Pakistan So we are doing better than you there

Yeah...Half your women are uneducated by social, cultural, and religious pressures. By that alone, that made your Pakistan better than US how?

 

[LeGenD]

@gambit

What are the 'motivations' of people involved in shootings in public spaces? These incidents will not affect tourism and immigration trends in the US in the coming years? What is the solution in your opinion?

As a distant observer and admirer of American accomplishments, even I am forced to admit that these mass shootings are not helping American image, and are indeed a matter of grave concern. I have relatives in the US and I am concerned about their safety.

On a humurous note, Americans and Afghans are like two sides of the same coin but parted centuries ago (hypothesis). One group became superpower and fashionable but the other group remained in the ditch. Nevetheless, both groups converge in their love for guns and the art of fighting - old habits die hard right...