27 Tableeghi Jamaat members test positive for coronavirus

[jamahir]

So, yes, expected better from the Tableeghi Jamaat which has a lot of supposedly educated cadres ... What they have done is really extremely disappointing, and scary..

Bhai, the Tableeghi Jamaat in India also mostly consists of so-called educated people. In reality, their idea of Islam is all about prayers and rituals instead of the entire Progressive socio-economic-political system that True Islam is.

Some of these TJ people are found in Indian IT companies where instead of creating employee unions for the benefit of all employees of whatever religious background, these TJ worthies demand office space for namaaz.

Very recently, there was a high-ranking Muslim employee called Mujeeb in one of India's biggest IT companies ( Infosys ) who urged Muslims in India to go out into the streets and sneeze in public to spread the Corona virus. I will not be surprised if he is a Tableeghi. These kind of people spoil the name of Muslims.

Tableeghi Jamat had its links with Al Qaeda as well. Not all but there are many people

I have always believed that the Tableeghi Jamaat is the first step towards later joining more radical groups such as Al Qaeda. This I think happened with the Sri Lanka bombing last year.

 

[IceCold]

Iran surely messed up and put Pakistan in danger but same thing Saudi did but no one wants to talk about it but only blame zaireen

Two wrongs does not make one right. Just because Saudia did it makes it alright for Iran as well and viceverse. Both these countries screwed Pakistan but the problem with Iran is that they should had been more cooperative as we shared a border with them. So before pushing Zaireen they should had developed a mechanism with Pakistan something you hear Pakistan complaining about. And before you say Saudi Arabia once again, let me point out that people coming via airport and those coming through border have very different checking mechanism. usually those coming via flights have a much more thorough checking than those via bus on borders. It's sad that in our quest to defend Iran and Saudi Arabia, Pakistan has turned out to be the loser.

 

[Areesh]

And you want to put the entire blame on Iran and Zaireen alone???
No one prefers Iran over Pakistan
But you shouldn't be peddling your anti-Iran/Shia propaganda either

Being Anti iran is not equal to being Anti Shia

Shiaism is not patent by Iran who became shia centuries later

Secondly Iran is sending people even today despite pleas by Pakistani government. Confirmed reports are available for that. There are videos of Iran allowing pilgrims to visit qum even today

Facts are facts. Even if it hurts someone

I have bashed Saudia and UAE dozens of times. Never once anyone had problem with it

But for Iran it all becomes sensitive and hurts sentiments

Bhai, the Tableeghi Jamaat in India also mostly consists of so-called educated people. In reality, their idea of Islam is all about prayers and rituals instead of the entire Progressive socio-economic-political system that True Islam is.

Some of these TJ people are found in Indian IT companies where instead of creating employee unions for the benefit of all employees of whatever religious background, these TJ worthies demand office space for namaaz.

Very recently, there was a high-ranking Muslim employee called Mujeeb in one of India's biggest IT companies ( Infosys ) who urged Muslims in India to go out into the streets and sneeze in public to spread the Corona virus. I will not be surprised if he is a Tableeghi. These kind of people spoil the name of Muslims.



I have always believed that the Tableeghi Jamaat is the first step towards later joining more radical groups such as Al Qaeda. This I think happened with the Sri Lanka bombing last year.

And here comes this guy with his islamophobic posts

It is because of people like @jamahir that we see riots like the one in Delhi

As per him TJ is all evil and spreads virus

However his prime minister badly planned lock down has no role in spread of corona where hundreds and thousands of people are stranded on roads and highways

 

[jamahir]

And here comes this guy with his islamophobic posts

Islamophobic ??

Have you not read what I wrote :

Progressive socio-economic-political system that True Islam is.

It is because of people like @jamahir that we see riots like the one in Delhi

How ??

 

[Aryan0395]

As per him TJ is all evil and spreads virus

Well they did spread virus in this case and in my eyes that does make them evil.

 

[jamahir]

As per him TJ is all evil and spreads virus

The TJ is a misguided movement. Simple as that.

 

[Areesh]

Islamophobic ??

Have you not read what I wrote :

What kind of socio economic political system of Islam you want to create in a Islamophobic society like India?

Where muslims are struggling to survive

The fact is you are simply coward who is ashamed of being a muslim

How ??

By being part of propaganda that hinutva extremists do against muslims of India

Well they did spread virus in this case and in my eyes that does make them evil.

But this doesn't spread virus as per you

https://twitter.com/x/status/1243910472023199746

This is a completely virus immune crowd

 

[Blacklight]

Iran surely messed up and put Pakistan in danger but same thing Saudi did but no one wants to talk about it but only blame zaireen

Maybe because the virus spread to GCC via Iran.

Coronavirus: Saudi Arabia restricts entry for Gulf citizens, residents
https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/midd...entry-for-gulf-citizens-residents/ar-BB10GUSH


What people miserably fail to understand, is that any other country will NOT look after Pakistanis. IT IS the job of GoP to look after Pakistanis.

NO ZAIREEN from anywhere is to be blamed, since no one in his right mind wants to catch or transmit this virus.

THE BLAME lies squarely with GoP, once this pandemic broke WHY weren't all points of Entry monitored?
Why in this day and age is GoP so irresponsible and clueless?
Where is the bloody Tabdeeli?

The worst part is daily wage earners are dying because they cant buy food, and nobody cares about that.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

The only thing to come out of your 'crusade to esxpose Iran' is more miscommunication and more alienation of Pakistani Shia.

This is the problem....This is the exactly very problem.

You are equating a sect with country...You're making as if criticizing Iran means criticizing Shias.

This is WRONG.

Sunnis never said that don't criticize Saudia because you're actually criticizing us.

You're the reason why Shias are coming across as snowflakes....

You are on payroll of Iran....Iranians literally do this....Mess up everything and hurt us.....and they hide behind Shias.

Sorry, I will never allow Iran and her evil sectarian policies to get hide behind Shias....NEVER.

If some one badmouthing Shias as community - delete his posts , no worries but outright banning/deleting threads is just acting like a thug.

Don't stop the discussion...Don't make Shias a crybaby....Don't make them drama queen/snowflakes.

Be a MAN. Don't be INSECURE.

 

[jamahir]

What kind of socio economic political system of Islam you want to create in a Islamophobic society like India?

Where muslims are struggling to survive

Why do you think I keep quoting Gaddafi's Libya as a country to emulate ??

His Libya was majority-Muslim, which you would prefer, but it was also a Progressive state.

The fact is you are simply coward who is ashamed of being a muslim

I think you have not read this thread of mine from 2016 which is an article by Nadeem Paracha about Socialist activism among Muslims in previous decades. Some of those Muslim Socialists were able to bring themselves to power in their countries, and some kept trying.

You call me a coward but you don't consider the fact that I am a Leftist in a country ruled by a Right-wing party.

By being part of propaganda that hinutva extremists do against muslims of India

Not a single of of my 16,000+ posts does that kind of propaganda.

 

[Areesh]

Why do you think I keep quoting Gaddafi's Libya as a country to emulate ??

His Libya was majority-Muslim, which you would prefer, but it was also a Progressive state.

You want to create Libya in India?? A country ruled by the likes of BJP?

You call me a coward but you don't consider the fact that I am a Leftist in a country ruled by a Right-wing party.

Anyone is a leftist since that is the easy way out

To fight against bigotry and injustice on ground is difficult. Your leftist cr@p can't do that

Not a single of of my 16,000+ posts does that kind of propaganda.

You are doing that even on this thread. Where hindus are trying to pin spread of corona in India on Muslims

You are part of that propaganda

Even though TJ has explained itself very well and this lie has been busted even by progressive hindus

 

[Blacklight]

You want to create Libya in India?? A country ruled by the likes of BJP?



Anyone is a leftist since that is the easy way out

To fight against bigotry and injustice on ground is difficult. Your leftist cr@p can't do that



You are doing that even on this thread. Where hindus are trying to pin spread of corona in India on Muslims

You are part of that propaganda

Even though TJ has explained itself very well and this lie has been busted even by progressive hindus

There is something in the water they drink

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

You are on payroll of Iran

So you're going to accuse me of being on the payroll of Iran because I disagree with your tirades against Iran. That's called irrational behavior.

These are precisely the kinds of comments that have poisoned the discussion.

Like I said, this discussion is no longer conducive and if you insist on creating more threads on the same thing they'll keep on getting deleted.

You can keep thinking you're 'doing good by exposing Iran', but all the information about Iran's poor handling of the Zaireen is already public knowledge and has been discussed and Shia opinions about Iran are not going to be changed by YOUR tirades and obsession - the only thing you are going to do is piss off more people.

 

[Blacklight]

So you're going to accuse me of being on the payroll of Iran because I disagree with your tirades against Iran. That's called irrational behavior.

These are precisely the kinds of comments that have poisoned the discussion.

Like I said, this discussion is no longer conducive and if you insist on creating more threads on the same thing they'll keep on getting deleted.

You can keep thinking you're 'doing good by exposing Iran', but all the information about Iran's poor handling of the Zaireen is already public knowledge and has been discussed and Shia opinions about Iran are not going to be changed by YOUR tirades and obsession - the only thing you are going to do is piss off more people.

HE is giving you an example, he is NOT accusing you. Pls read again what he wrote:

You are on payroll of Iran....Iranians literally do this....Mess up everything and hurt us.....and they hide behind Shias.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/27-t...-for-coronavirus.659047/page-13#post-12191973

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

HE is giving you an example, he is NOT accusing you. Pls read again what he wrote:

You are on payroll of Iran....Iranians literally do this....Mess up everything and hurt us.....and they hide behind Shias.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/27-t...-for-coronavirus.659047/page-13#post-12191973

I read his post again - I don't see any other way to interpret 'you are on the payroll of Iran'.